What on earth is going on in America??

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48275795

How can a supposedly 'civilised' society pass such a retrograde law?

And other states following suit?

Why is it anybody's business to decide what a woman wants to do with her body. Especially a bunch of fucking religious white men with not a bloody uterus between them.

Actually men are the problem here. They are the reason women get pregnant. They should be the ones being punished if a women has an unwanted pregnancy.

A women can typically only fall pregnant about 25 days out of the year dependant on you cycle but men can impregnate a women every single day.

Sometime birth control doesn't work for many reasons so why should a woman be punished for that?

Why should unwanted children be forced into an overpopulated world

This is just ludicrous to imagine not only that Northern Ireland are still in the dark ages but that other countries might choose to go backwards in women's rights

If you haven't got a uterus then you can fuck off - you haven't got a right to decide anything for women and their bodies

If they still cannot face motherhood just give the baby to a couple who'd like a child.

And if it's not motherhood but pregnancy that they can't face?

If they still cannot face motherhood just give the baby to a couple who'd like a child

This utter shite AGAIN. Women are not incubators who should provide childless people with babies. Honestly just fuck off with that.

"As for 'give it up for adoption then' that is straight up Gilead handmaid crap."

Well said. It honestly gives me the creeps when people start telling women with unwanted pregnancies that their purpose is to give a "precious gift" to (financially well-off, of course) families who can't conceive themselves. I've known some wonderful adoptive parents and hoping-to-adopt couples, and the thing that jumped out about them was that they saw their role as meeting and supporting the needs of the child. They'd have been revolted and insulted by the idea that women in less advantageous circumstances should be forced into producing babies for deserving families.

Go and live in America and go back to the dark ages. your opinions are not valid.

That comment was for gth1234. I'll only say this once. Please don't say anything at all.

The bill is restrictions once there is a heartbeat. Totally support this. A human life is not disposable just because you don't want it. What has society become only barbaric and returning to the dark ages with terminating a life.

I think the trolls and nutters have found this thread. It's POINTLESS commenting.

coolegary1 you realise that this law also applies to fetuses who's medical conditions are not compatible with life - are you still in favor of women carrying the pregnancy then, despite the very likely physical and mental damage this will cause? Not to mention making women carry pregnancies in the case of incest or rape?1

And what's your stand on gun control? Are you ok for school shootings to happen every week in the US killing actual live kids, and yet not have anything done about that?

Great, don't have an abortion then. Otherwise, keep your nose out of my uterus.

I'm going to donate to planned parenthood on the back of this thread. All you Aunt Lydia forced birthers have inspired me to do so.

I think the trolls and nutters have found this thread. It's POINTLESS commenting
Unfortunately, the 'nutters' represent a large amount of Americans. I think it's only a matter of time before their position really takes off amongst the right wing in the UK. We are going backwards.

What kind of society forces a person, who may still be a child, to give birth to the product of rape or incest? How barbaric! Condemns a woman like Savita Halappanavar to die in agony and slowly to preserve a non-viable pregnancy? Reducing people to mere incubators.

To quote the late great Hitch:

'How dismal it is to see present day Americans yearning for the very orthodoxy that their country was founded to escape'.

I'm not American.
Less than 1% of abortions are done for rape and incest. It's just disingenuous to roll this out every time as an argument for a killing of an innocent healthy baby.

The Brexit party really stands for human rights, oh yes, that's definitely a big platform of theirs . . . said no one ever.

It's disingenuous to blanket ban a medical procedure because 'It's only less than 1%'. That you're not American says it all. This is here, too, people! Instead of pointing fingers, we must look to our own shores.

Its not disingenuous, specifically because with this law, there are no exemptions for rape or incest

Unfortunately, the 'nutters' represent a large amount of Americans.

I live in America and not ONE person I know thinks like this. Please don't judge the whole of America on a few po dunk States.

@Coolegary1 so women should die because a foetus that won't survive anyway shouldn't be terminated?

The trouble with abortions is that they're so very moreish. I started off just having one or two if I were having a big weekend out with friends. Then I found myself slipping out of work early for lunch on pay-day to squeeze one in. It gave me a thrill to come back to the office and slip back into my booth with nobody the wiser. Pretty soon I got turned on to the hard stuff and I was having late-term abortions every month - sometimes even twice if I got a bonus from work. Please don't end up like me. :(

I live in America and not ONE person I know thinks like this. Please don't judge the whole of America on a few po dunk States.
You have a President and Senate majority from a pro-life party, and a pro-life majority on the Supreme Court. A recent Gallop poll shows 48% of Americans identifying as pro-life. Of course I don't judge every American as a consequence but I think my statement that pro-life views, like those being espoused in this thread, are representative of a large number of Americans is remotely controversial.

If somebody you know is killing babies you should ring the police. Referring to abortion as killing babies is immature at best. I don't care whether you think it's wrong, I don't care if 0% of abortions are due to rape. Not wanting to be pregnant is enough of a reason. Women are autonomous humans. We know our own minds and bodies thanks.

So let's use a bit of wisdom here. There are plenty of infertile parents who would love a baby. There are plenty of women who find themselves in difficult positions and don't want a baby. Pregnancy does not last forever. Why don't women who find themselves expecting see the pregnancy through and see how they feel when the baby comes. If they still cannot face motherhood just give the baby to a couple who'd like a child.

Yeah, you can fuck off to the far side of fuck as well. As heartbreaking as I'm sure infertility is, it is not the responsibility of pregnant women to act as broodmares for infertile couples.

However the majority of Americans do not want abortion banned, and the more of these bills are passed, the more pro-choicers are going to become single-issue voters who will fight to retain women's rights.