What on earth is going on in America??

[Nanny0gg]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48275795

How can a supposedly 'civilised' society pass such a retrograde law?

And other states following suit?

[TurOlive]

But Roe vs. Wade will never be overturned. It would never get through the Supreme Court.

I wouldn't bet on it.

[mumwon]

4 th highest execution rate in the USA
Oh the bitter irony...
& the botched & barbaric execution Doyle Hamm

[JingsMahBucket]

@BritWifeinUSA it very likely could be depending on who’s sitting on the court. Have you learned nothing from the Handmaid’s Tale? The Voting Rights Act was also recently partially overturned. Don’t anything for granted. Ever.

[SimonJT]

Then once the babies are born they become ‘welfare scum’, the very people that conservative pro-lifers hate.

Contraception is really expensive for women who have poor health coverage.

Don’t agree with abortion, that’s fine, don’t have one.

[BritWifeinUSA]

But Roe vs. Wade will never be overturned. It would never get through the Supreme Court.

[JohnMcCainsDeathStare]

It's not pro-life its forced birth. They don't give a shit about the girls and women after the birth. Like the 12 year old who was forced to give birth and forced to find work in Ohio. Or the fact that they seemed pretty relaxed about a homeless women and newborn dying of hypothermia.

The hard right are relaxed and chilled out about control and slashing the rights of women so we should be relaxed and chilled out about offending them. Fuck playing nice.

[masterlegrand]

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/21/arthur-gay-wedding-banned-alabama-public-tv-same-sex-union

Backwards shithole.

[Codecracker112]

@agnurse

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/27/alabama-pregnant-woman-shot-manslaughter-charge-marshae-jones

@agnurse How can you justify this?

[Lweji]

pro-lifers are NOT about controlling women. Why would you think that?

Because most also tend to be pro-death (penalty) and pro-guns. At least in the same US states that have pretty much made abortion illegal.
And they're not keen on supporting people on low incomes or adequate health care for all.
It seems that life is only valued just as long as a woman needs to carry it.

[Songsofexperience]

Agree with this resister.
My initial point was about contraception: I've not come across pro lifers who also support contraception. They might exist but mostly they don't. It's not logical though: a problem is best addressed at source, is it not? Yet they're not the kind of people to encourage research into the male pill for instance. Doesn't that say it all about their views on gender equality?

[resisterpersister]

pro-lifers are NOT about controlling women. Why would you think that?

If pro-lifers are not about controlling women, then why didn't the Alabama bill make and exceptions for fetuses conceived via rape and incest. But disposing of fetuses created in a lab is fine?

They even said, when asked, that it was because the fetus in the lab wasn't in a woman's body.

What clearer indication can you have? This is not about the sanctity of life, or any such nonsense, while men creating and destroying fetuses for profit, in a lab is seen as fine, but 12 year old girls aborting a fetus conceived through rape by an older family member is not allowed.

[arganlady]

I'm so annoyed the vile pro lifers have found Mumsnet. Twisted people.

[arganlady]

@Gth1234 fuck off troll.

[Gth1234]

@Songsofexperience

pro-lifers are NOT about controlling women. Why would you think that?
A few will be. But then I'm sure you will equally admit that some women treat abortion as birth control.

[Turgid]

www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/abortion-row-netflix-and-disney-stay-silent-on-northern-ireland-ban-1.3910705

Good to see companies taking a stand against this but I wish they'd do the same in Northern Ireland.

[DoomOnTheBroom]

Rather astoundingly, a quick browse of Twitter will reveal a lot of men who flat out don't believe that child bearing can be fatal. It's all feminist man hating propaganda.

Let's be 100% honest here, if men were able to get pregnant then you can bet your backside that mifepristone and misoprostol would be available over the counter without a prescription.

[placemats]

Of course the caveat to all of this is that abortion is allowed if the mother's life is in danger.

Now, think about that. Abortion is allowed.

[placemats]

And spare me the argument that the child is innocent. No woman on this planet has given birth to a child. Women give birth to babies.

However, pregnancy due to incest? Obviously that 12 year old was asking for it from her brothers or father. Incest is also rape.

Pregnancy from rape? Obviously that girl/woman was asking for it.

[placemats]

They have no compunction about condemning a 16 year old to Death Row.

[placemats]

It's quite plain and obvious that those who wish to stop abortion because they wish to 'save life' are also in favour of the death penalty.

ALWAYS!

[Songsofexperience]

Pro-lifers are mostly about controlling women; the 'sacred life' element is in fact mostly a pretext. Proof of that is their position on contraception. If they were truly just concerned about preserving life, they'd support research into 100% fool-proof, side-effect free contraception for men and women but they don't. They're backwards, archaic authoritarians.

[mollysshadow]

The #auntienetwork is starting to trend. Women in other states offering help to those who need abortions.

[isabellerossignol]

I mean, I accept that a lot of people posting that sort of crap are just baiting and trolling but alongside that there do appear to be people who believe it. And of course then there are the women who have had multiple pregnancies and enjoyed them, so any woman who says she found pregnancy awful is just a moaner who needs to suck it up.

[isabellerossignol]

Rather astoundingly, a quick browse of Twitter will reveal a lot of men who flat out don't believe that child bearing can be fatal. It's all feminist man hating propaganda. Women's bodies are designed for birth and we just exaggerate how frightening it is in order to try to make the poor men feel guilty. And even a ten year old can do it because if she has started menstruating then she's ready.