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Genuinely - is this annoying or not? Lodger ate my food without asking.

87 replies

Why2 · 10/05/2019 01:21

Aibu?

My lodger, who is also a family friend, came home late this evening and finished the food that was in the pan (one portion) without asking.

Feel maybe irrationally annoyed.

I know it’s comparatively a small issue, but for some reason my blood is boiling Angry.

OP posts:
AbsentmindedWoman · 10/05/2019 01:27

Yes, it's annoying!

How long have they been lodging? Is this a habit?

RSAcre · 10/05/2019 01:45

Rude & selfish. YANBU.

It my be 'comparatively small' but I'd be wary that it would escalate into futher CFery. You are going to have to challenge the lodger, by asking them why that ate your food. Otherwise they will assume that it's ok, & will start to behave with even more entitlement.

b0bb1n · 10/05/2019 02:49

Not unreasonable, I hate people eating my food without asking. It's plain rude and inconsiderate.

Tavannach · 10/05/2019 02:52

Maybe he thought it was for him if you left it out?

StuckInsideAnEcho · 10/05/2019 02:54

That's not on
You need to bring this up with them

BritWifeinUSA · 10/05/2019 04:40

Depends on what your boundaries/rules are. Food left in a pan when I shared a place meant “please eat this if you want it”. Otherwise it was put into a container and then into the fridge on your shelf. Why had you left it out?

SleepWarrior · 10/05/2019 04:55

That's either quite an assumption (that it was left for them - have you left them a portion out previously?) or a deliberate non-ask in order to not be met with a 'no'.

I'd be annoyed too. How much so would depend on everything else about them and any backstory.

Why2 · 10/05/2019 06:59

I sometimes offer my lodger food that is left over from after the dc have had their portions, but there isn’t a blanket eat whatever is out there assumption no.

When she cooks (sometimes, she mainly gets microwaveable stuff) she will sometimes say have what’s left, but I never just eat what she has left without asking.

This is further complicated by the fact that my ex h comes here after the dc have got home from school every day (while I am still at work) and apparently always offers her some of the food he has made.

However she would not have known that this food had been made by him (incidentally) as she was out when he cooked it. Or if she did see him cook it, that still doesn’t mean that she can just help herself when I am home.

The whole ex h thing is difficult for me as the divorce was very traumatic, we are not on speaking terms, I try never to cross his path, and he comes here virtually every day while I am at work. This is good for the dc and does make it easier for me because he cooks for them, but the boundaries are blurred.

I can’t have a whatever I cook I also offer to her rule (as ex seems to do) because I already look after 3 dc on my own and can’t afford to permanently feed a 5th person.

My lodger is also tight, and will literally jump at any opportunity to save money. When she initially came to stay she paid pin money every week. That was for about three months and she was probably delighted. Then she went away and came back again (with her dog) as a proper paying lodger but still pays below what I could get for the room (which doesn’t mean that I would necessarily charge anyone that much). She probably feels she is giving me an arm and a leg however as she comes from another country where the rents are cheaper.

She uses some of the basics in the kitchen but will sometimes top them up so that’s okay. Though that wasn’t pre-arranged, it just happened.

I probably come across as Scrooge in comparison with ex (though I do sometimes offer her food I have made) and the whole ex thing is annoying in itself. The fact that he doesn’t answer any text that I send about the kids ever, but is here every day offering my lodger food 🙄.

We have had family gatherings during which my sister and her partner come over. The three of us (me, my sister and her partner) all cook and contribute food. We had two of those and my lodger just rocked up and ate, without asking if she could contribute anything. When we organised the third one we asked her to also bring a dish, which to be fair she did. Maybe this is a cultural difference to do with being hospitable. The lines are a bit blurred because she is a family friend (ex partner of a cousin of mine), but still. Common courtesy to ask if you can finish what is in a pan I think.

It’s something about her evident delight that she is saving which is irritating.

She saved a stack of money when she was here the first time round (she gave me £100 a month - and this is zone 2 in London) for three months, but still didn’t want to go halves with my sister for a takeaway (but would have eaten some of it). It’s that type of thing.

In all other ways she is great and easy to live with.

Maybe I am mean. I am not mean per se, but I can’t be emotionally responsible for feeding another adult as well as the dc. I don’t think I have to have that role.

It basically comes down to courtesy I think -to ask if you can have some of the food which you did not cook.

Not sure how to bring it up now other than to innocently ask if she knows where that food is. It’s not the food itself, it’s the fact that it wasn’t for her to decide what happened to it without asking.

This is petty, I know. But my gut feeling when I saw that the food was gone was a bad one, and I feel she overstepped (and then put that empty pan along with others in the dishwasher which she filled and ran).

Shall I just drop this because to bring it up would make me seem like a lunatic??

OP posts:
Why2 · 10/05/2019 07:01

(I did agree to the lower rent when she first came - kind of felt bad charging her anything - but then I realised that I couldn’t carry on doing that, and if she came back she would have to pay closer to market rate, which is what she is doing now).

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Ruru8thestars · 10/05/2019 07:04

Time to say goodbye to her and get a propert paying lodger

UCOinanOCG · 10/05/2019 07:06

Is it the first time she has taken food without being specifically offered it? If so I would say to her that she can't take food unless someone says she can as that food away for your lunch/dinner today or whatever. Spell it out to her.

UrsulaPandress · 10/05/2019 07:06

I let a work colleague stay for a few months as his wife had chucked him out. I ended up hiding none perishable foodstuffs under my bed I was so sick of him helping himself.

Get rid.

Does she really have a dog living with you?

Why2 · 10/05/2019 07:07

Have just thought of another irritating thing she does - scope out food which is past the sell by date and which is mine and in my part of the fridge, and eat it because she knows I wouldn’t. Which I wouldn’t it’s true, but why are you checking the sell by date on my houmous in the first place?? This happened once. Another time she gave some old yoghurt (which my dd had put out to be thrown away - the houmous was still in the fridge however) to her dog.

I just feel a bit watched Confused.

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fedup21 · 10/05/2019 07:08

I would say something about the food. Definitely.

Do you want her living there? Who is she? How long is she staying? What are you charging her?

It might’ve time to ask her to leave.

Why2 · 10/05/2019 07:08

Does she really have a dog living with you?

Yes, but I did agree to that.

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IamtheDevilsAvocado · 10/05/2019 07:11

Wow....just wow...
I'm sure she's easy to live with....many would be if they were paying 25 £per week in a 200 pw area....😅...

She's the female equivalent of a cocklodger without the sex

FraggleRocking · 10/05/2019 07:12

This isn’t just about the pan of food. She generally annoys you and that won’t go away. Probably best to end it now on relatively good terms before you drive yourself mad.

Butchyrestingface · 10/05/2019 07:17

Do you want a proper paying lodger? If so, either start charging her the going rate or bin her and get someone who will pay.

I’m afraid I think the boundaries set around food left out/over are quite blurred. Granted this is mostly down to your ex.

As for the hummous, it’s not something she “does”, she only did it once.

It doesn’t sound like this relationship is really working out so either firmer boundaries need to be set or she goes. Personally, an ex-husband who won’t acknowledge me in any way coming into my home every day would be far more of an irritation. Sounds like that situation deserves a thread of its own.

givemesteel · 10/05/2019 07:18

You need to put her rent up to market level and take account of communal things she uses so she is paying for her share of utilities but also communal household things like kitchen foil, cling film, loo roll, dishwasher tabs, cleaning products etc - allow maybe £20 a month for all of that.

The fact that she has a dog as well adds to work and general space as well, so I'd account for that in cleaning time and cost lost not many houses will allow a dog do she's on to a good thing.

And I'd draw a new line in the sand with your food and say please don't eat it anymore, you're trying to save money and are going to freeze leftovers from now on.

Does your ex bring his own food to cook for kids?if he is using yours then he shouldn't be offering it to her either, just say you can't afford it.

If inherently she's not a bad lodger I'd talk to her first, but also may it worth your while her being there as otherwise its not worth the invasion of privacy.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 10/05/2019 07:18

You've been way way too kind to her...I would be very annoyed in your position
I cab see clearly what she gets out of the arrangement. ....
What are you befitting from her being there..?? Many people have a lodger to make extra income. ..my brother in zone 2 had an extra 795 a month for a nice but small room...
...unless she's providing another service? Is she looking after your kids/cleaning loads /doing other sruff

I would either throw her out...or tell her the rent is increasing in line with usual rates..
She'll find someone else to exploit

Why2 · 10/05/2019 07:23

I did say the houmous thing happened once - it’s the feeling that she is scoping out what is in the fridge.

She pays £600 a month all inclusive which helps me a lot. Yes I could get £200 a week - it is a large room and she has a dog. On the other hand she puts up with teenage chaos.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 10/05/2019 07:23

So, your ex is in your house when you ar enot, but you don't talk to him and, frankly, sound a bit scared of him.

Your lodger has a dog, doesn't pay the going rent, drops into your family life as and wehen she pleases and eats your food, which you can ill afford.

OP, you have some serious boundary issues and are being taken for a mug! Be kind to yourself, put your own feelings first! Look at al of those excuses you made for your lodger! Look at how you justify having a man you hate/are scared of/ simply don't like in your house every day!

Start by getting rid of the lodger. Once you have your house back you can decide if you rneed or want another and you can do it properly, with rules and full rent!

But before you get another, give yourself time to work out what you want to happen with your ex and his daily visits. It is your call, he has no automatic right to come into your house, not even to see his kids! If you want to change that arrangement you can.

WhenISnappedAndFarted · 10/05/2019 07:39

£600 a month for Zone 2 in London is pretty standard. I know quite a few people paying who have paid something similar to that.

WhenISnappedAndFarted · 10/05/2019 07:45

The boundaries are blurred. Sometimes she's offered food and she probably just assumed that it was left out for her.

You really need to sit down and have a chat with her, tell her the boundaries otherwise it's going to keep on happening and you're going to get more and more annoyed.

Marlena1 · 10/05/2019 07:47

If she's paying £600 a month, is ok to live with (apart from the food issue), "puts up with teenage chaos" and you know her could you not just talk to her? Realistically would you get another lodger? Maybe if you explain your issues it could work out ok. If you do think you would arrange a new lodger though and she is the problem (and not it's not a combination of everything) then maybe she should be shown the door.

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