Mrs Hinch....perfect prep :-(

[caroline161]

I feel so angry with Tommee Tippee that they've "gifted" her a perfect prep machine. Completely undermines her wish if she wants to breast feed. Plus she's such an influencer how much will this reduce our national breast feeding rates? Pregnant women will go and buy one just because she has one and not give themselves a chance to breastfeed

As I've said I'm prepared to accept I have been unreasonable , happy to listen to other peoples views and really glad I posted. I'm now off to get a life as I have been advised to do by numerous posters.

Yeah looking after babies isn't valued enough zzzzzz if only mothers who can't bf could just value their babies more zzzzzz

In many ways BF is overvalued. How many times have you heard “I love BF it’s free!”

It’s only free if you don’t value a woman’s time. We should acknowledge the time effort and dedication that goes into Bf, not use its cheapness as a selling point.

breastmilk is best for babies and best for the population as a whole. It's a scientific fact. We need to ask why so many women don't want to beeastfeed and why they hate it

Please dont patronise me or assume im thick. I know that its natural and therefore what is optimal for babies. So do most women i imagine. I dont think people choosing to ff is because they dont know that or dont give a fuck.

For me personally i tried it and the sensation of it made me want to hand my baby to someone else and go and throw up. I dont think educating me is going to change that.

However i dont agree that women should have to justify that their reason is "good enough" if they dont want to use their breasts, part of their body for whatever reason they shouldnt be forced into it, or "educated" into it.

There is so much insinuation that people who ff are thick and lazy, dont give a shit about their child or nutrition or choose to do it because the nice lady on IG Advertised a prep machine. Its disgusting actually and the fact that bf'ers think that with a little bit of education (cos we're all thick) will solve the whole issue just goes to show that the women in this dont matter. We are simply incubators and then a food source. Our mental health doesnt matter. Our comfort doesnt matter.

But @Sagradafamiliar I’m not imagining they were hoping I’d promote their bottles for them, they were hoping I’d give up breastfeeding and use their bottles instead. They had the full knowledge that I was ordering a product specifically for sore and cracked nipples (so breastfeeding clearly not going great at that point). A friendly offer of an alternative feeding method was it? If you can’t see the cynism of that kind of marketing I’m not sure what else I can say. As I’ve said this does actually break the international code of marketing (though not illegal in the U.K.) so I’m really not imagining things and ‘taking it offensively’.

Yes, if only I was more educated my poor baby might not have been formula fed.

Ffs here we go with the breastfeeding brigade.

At a population level, education IS the main way that BF rates will rise. There is no doubt about that! But it’ll be generations, it took 2/3 generations for formula feeding to become desirable (and arguably, liberate a lot of women from women’s work they didn’t want to do)

Tiny I was talking about Mrs Hinch, the thread is about her.

I'm not sure what else I can say.
Then say no more.

How though? How are you going to sell BF to a generation that know FF exists and expect to have that choice?

petunia bf is, of course, natural. However, whether it is 'best' is a moot point, rather than a 'scientific fact'.

There isn't a single, rigorous study onto bf v ff that isn't cofounded. Even then, the beneficial effects are largely very modest.

Even if we take such studies at face value, what they do not do is attempt to assign any value to a mother's well-being, whether physical or mental, the social and time costs of bf, the (usually) extra sleep deprivation, or the financial costs (it's not cheaper than ff if it causes such ravenous hunger that the mother has to eat twice as much food as usual).

Bf can be advantageous if it goes well. It is not always advantageous, and the studies are skewed and do not account for the factors why it might not be.

Exactly Tolles. Those are the reasons I will not be educated into breastfeeding. (Although I have in the past and hated every second)

Oh dear plant I did a long reply and lost it!

There have been many products which, over generations have been made almost obselete. The advantages of the alternatives (bf) are promoted. More people start using the alternative. More money gets pushed into researching how to support women using the alternative. More friends, family, to help and support because they also have experience and knowledge of the alternative.

Eventually sales decline, and the company, who don’t actually care about formula itself, just a successful product, move into the next product. The product is reaching the en dog it’s life cycle. Companies stop
Investing in it.

It takes generations

I personally believe breastfeeding is worse for both babies and mothers.

How many babies are starving hungry because their mothers supply (through no fault of the mothers) isn't what the baby needs but the mother refuses to give up through her own desire to feed?

How many times does a mother sob and suffer from terrible mental health because feeding is so bloody painful but socially it's deemed as failure to quit. An unhappy mum means unhappy baby.

How many times does a father feel pushed out because they can't feed their own child?

I genuinely think bottle fed is best for all involved.

To the poster who wants to improve the health of entire nations by reaching rates of 98% - 99%, I’ve got great news for you. There is something that does exactly that when such high rates are achieved. There is a huge amount of evidence demonstrating it. The impacts and improvements on individual and population-level health are astounding. It takes hardly any time and in this country, amazingly, it’s entirely free. For everyone. No, of corse it’s not breastfeeding, it’s vaccinations. So don’t waste your time promoting breastfeeding, come promote routine childhood immunization instead.

I don't get the hype with Mrs Hinch. How is cleaning your house with chemicals a good thing? Half the products she uses everyone has been using for years. I just don't get it
Anyways back to the original point... The perfect prep is a god send! I don't think by having one will see a decline of breast feeding... I actually did combined feeding. The general consensus is breast is best but actually these days it's "fed is best" all midwives and health visitors say as long as baby is fed that's the main thing. (Not all women can breastfeed either)

Also I'm jealous she got hers for free, I got mine in the sale but it still cost a bit. I don't think women are gonna go running for it cos she's got one.

@chocolatebuttonsandcheese oh dear god. Educate yourself woman.

Ha. Well id bet my house that wont happen in my life time.

Things that become obsolete do so because they either weren't that useful to start with or theyre replaced with a better, more user friendly or more convenient product.

Bf is not more user friendly nor more convenient (imo obviously)

It is free.
It can be easy, but it puts 100% of all work on the mother, its hard at the beginning and yeno its just not everyones cup of tea.

Ff wont ever be obsolete.

I wasn't talking about educating mums. I was talking about society in general. If every new mum had family and friends who were supportive and encouraging it would be a lot easier to breastfeed. If women could afford to have more time off work that would help too. If breasts weren't mainly seen as sexual that would also help. And lots of other things.

(If Mrs Hinch can"t breastfeed obviously she should give her baby formula. )

She's making money by exploiting those who may have fragile mental health

Why are you assuming that people with mental illness are stupid and/or can't make choices. I have a serious mental illness and I'm perfectly capable of making my own decisions, thanks.

I'm a massive fan of breast milk. It's really powerful and under rated

Off you go and drink it yourself then. On your way, perhaps think about how your thread is more damaging to people than mothers who formula feed.

chocolatebuttonsandcheese 😂 I'm assuming that was tongue in cheek? 🤞

Welcome to motherhood, Mrs Hinch. Can you feel the love of the sisterhood? No. Get used to it. It doesn't matter what choices you make for your baby you'll never be short of judgemental bitches to tell you how shit you are!

I've never looked at Mrs Hinch's instadoobries (and she'd faint at what crap housekeeper I am) but I'm tempted to pop over because I cannot understand why Zoflora and owning a perfect prep machine make her the modern equivent of a witch. FFS, some of you really need to get hobbies.

How is she on the edge of advertising laws? She put #ad and was extremely clear it was a gift.

I planned to breastfeed but I bought everything I needed for bottle feeding, good for her that she didn't have to actually pay for it.

And once again, it's completely her choice if she wants or doesn't want to BF because she's the mother. I really don't think she has the ability to influence the nation's BF statistics

It won’t be plant. Maybe your great grandchildren. Formula will never be obselete. It may well become less used as a commercial product though.

However, what bloody Sophie Hinch does or doesn’t do has zero impact on this 🤣

Chocolate's opinion is valid. Similar to my experience breastfeeding my first and the reason I never for a minute considered BFing my following children.