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to decline a family holiday in favour of my dream job

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sonsnet · 02/05/2019 14:51

Hi all.

First time poster here and not a mum (actually a son raised by brilliant women)! I've ghosted on the AIBU posts for a while now and thought this would be the best place to get advice.

My aunt was recently diagnosed with terminal cancer (less than 2 years left to live)! She recently had a stroke and, through the process, we uncovered that she did not have any of her affairs in proper order (will, finances, etc). There was a very intense period of about a week where I was forced to take time off work to help sort out all of these issues at very late notice, as we feared the worst as a result of her stroke.

She is much better now, though still terminal. She has offered to pay for a family trip to the USA to go to Disney World in September. She told our family about this on one day and the next day was asking us to confirm she could book our flights! I work in the kind of job where I can get annual leave at a moments notice and I've only recently had it confirmed, and she is every day pressuring me and my partner to confirm if we can come. It is all very rushed and already there have been lots of mix ups because things are being booked very quickly.

I am very grateful to be invited and I have already said thank you and that she is very generous (we are a big family). On the one hand, I think it's a very irresponsible spending because I know her finances are not in order and she will be leaving behind my Gran who paid for a big chunk of the house they share and will not be financially stable after she is gone. I have parked all of these concerns, though, because at the end of the day it is her money and she can spend it how she wants.

However, she keeps using her illness as a weapon to guilt people into going. My niece is going into reception in September and might miss her first day of school. My aunt keeps saying that she is terminally ill and that the school should make exceptions. I personally think no child should miss their first day of school but this is not my battle to fight.

I recently mentioned that I can not go for the full duration of the holiday (3 weeks long!) and will only be able to make it for 10 days at most because I cannot take such a long stint out of my job. She again tried to make me feel bad and pressure my job to give me more time off because she is terminally ill. I explained I couldn't do this and offered to organise all my own flights and travel myself because I know it's awkward for her.

But recently I was approached by my manager and basically told I would be stupid not to apply for a job that is coming up and that she is confident I would have a very good shot at getting it. It is a very high profile job and something I have had my eye on since I started my career (I am only 24 and feel like this is a vital stage). Unfortunately the job would start on 2nd September and the holiday takes place for the first 3 weeks of September. I spoke to my manager and the team recruiting for the role and, because of the high-profile and high-intensity nature of the role she feels it is unlikely I would be hired if I needed 10 days off right at the start.

I am now stuck between a rock and a hard place! I see my aunt all the time and I love her dearly, but now I dread telling her about this offer. It really is a very rare opportunity. Not quite once in a lifetime but something like it won't arise for a good few years and my career will probably suffer. Not that it matters, but I am the first in my family to go to university and the only one of my siblings who is in a professional job with a promising career. I have worked so hard to push my career forward and I feel heartbroken that I have to make this decision! No money has been spent on me so far for accomodation, flights or any kind of travel.

Would I be unreasonable to say no to the holiday?

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dreichuplands · 02/05/2019 19:28

I agree that the message should stop when you stop talking about yourself. Also I don't think you need half as much detail as you have given about your job.
Something more pared down such as you gave us would be fine. Even family won't care that much
(I think large family message groups are pretty normal nowadays, most families I know have one)

sonsnet · 02/05/2019 19:29

I know it's really long, so I'll look at cutting it down. I am really concerned though if I don't point out my concern about the trip itself no one will and it will all come to a head when it's far too late to do anything about it.

Like her stroke, I will end up stepping in and devoting a lot of time to trying to pick up the pieces because I'll be the one they turn to try and argue refunds and contracts...

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dreichuplands · 02/05/2019 19:34

OP, they are all adults at least some of them are parents.
You aren't their manager.
It really is up to them to organize any holiday they want to go on.
If you must send the other stuff maybe break the message into two parts, one where you simply withdraw due to work issues and the second where you suggest another simpler break given the other issues.
Your current message is very long.

Ninkaninus · 02/05/2019 19:36

I’m not going to read all of that (sorry). I don’t think anything needs saying other than, auntie, I can’t come on this holiday. I need to go for this job. We will spend some time together making memories when you get back, you and me.

If she can’t accept that, then she is being unreasonable (even making allowances for the fact that she is dealing with really difficult things).

ContessaIsOnADietDammit · 02/05/2019 19:38

Only put in the bit about yourself and your own situation, AND cut that down by a third!

NorthernRunner · 02/05/2019 19:40

I understand why you feel it’s important to list the reasons why your aunt shouldn’t go, but you will just piss her off.

Just say no because of the job opportunity and leave it at that

juneau · 02/05/2019 19:53

I agree - chop out all the second half. It isn't your place to point out all the shortcomings of this trip (and having bailed out on it you risk looking smug to all the others who have sucked up their reservations and agreed to go).

Just state that you can't go and why, keep it brief and to the point, thank your aunt for her kind offer and leave it at that.

Sometimes OP it's better to be kind that to be right. At 24 I didn't fully understand that and maybe right now you don't either, but one day you will. There are times in life where it's better just to bite your lip, even if you know that you're right and they're wrong.

MightyAtlantic · 02/05/2019 20:00

I agree with others, that message is far too long. All you need to do is explain briefly why you and your DP won't be going. Leave out the lecture for everyone else. You might find that once you've sent your message, others will reply to say they can't go either.

sonsnet · 02/05/2019 20:07

I have taken your sage advice and just posted a very pared down version of the first half. Fingers crossed I’m not excommunicated and thanks all again for your help...

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NorthernRunner · 02/05/2019 20:16

Good luck OP

HappyLife21 · 02/05/2019 20:26

Thank god for that! Version 1 was v self indulgent!

Tunnockswafer · 02/05/2019 22:30

I wouldn’t say “i’d love nothing more than..” as it’s not true, you (quite rightly) love the job opportunity more than the holiday! This does not of course mean you love it more than your aunt, and you can find other ways to reassure her of this I’m sure.

TraceyLP · 03/05/2019 00:19

Hi OP,
I think you have done the right thing posting only the apology you can’t go and not the rest of it. With the initial message I think your family would have been angry with you not because you couldn’t go but referring to their violent crimes etc.

You might want to speak to Auntie about the importance of being fully insured but speak to just to her not the group. As for all the other drawbacks I think as so much has been booked you just need to leave that to run it’s course now - no one will thank you for coming up with problem after problem at this point.

You sound very caring but you can’t solve everyone’s problems for them. Let the other adults that are invited worry about any issues that their families face.

TraceyLP · 03/05/2019 00:36

Me again,
I’m glad Mumsnet has helped you work this through - but if someone does see this that knows you I think they would recognise the situation and you might upset your family.

I believe I have read that if you report one of your own posts and ask for the thread to be deleted then they will do this for you. Might be the right thing to do now.

Best wishes with the job

User8888888 · 03/05/2019 05:13

The message is too long. I think you can decline in a shorter message but also raise some of the practical issues separately with someone you trust.

On the job front, if it is bill work or no.10 then absolutely do it. If private office, the chance might well come up again and people do turn it down. For people doubting, those jobs can absolutely be dependent on availability. There are lots of roles that can be career making and I would prioritise them over the holiday.

GirlRaisedInTheSouth · 03/05/2019 05:32

Let us know how you get on OP. And please stick around - it’s nice to have some normal men on the site.

Loopytiles · 03/05/2019 05:41

Don’t send that message, and don’t message everyone, just speak to your aunt.

Agree with PPs that your line manager is U to suggest that one or two weeks off would mean you were not selected if the best candidate. You may well not be selected anyway.

Is the job advertised internally? If so there is no need to mention your holiday unless you are actually offered the job.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 03/05/2019 05:53

OP you sound lovely. You have taken on board the advice given and I know you are trying to do the right thing.

Well done for just sending the refusal. Have you got a good relationship with another family member who could raise the other points with your aunt? That might be the way forward.

And I hope the new job goes well!

PregnantSea · 03/05/2019 05:53

If you really want that job then I would 100% apply for it. You can spend plenty of time with your aunt outside of this holiday.

Nagsnovalballs · 03/05/2019 05:56

@sonsnet - you just need to say your leave is cancelled and your job would be under threat if you disobeyed them as you are moving into a time sensitive and high pressured field.

ItsInTheSpoon · 03/05/2019 05:56

You sound really kind and thoughtful. I hope the responses to your message are ok and you all manage to work through this without too much upset x

Loopytiles · 03/05/2019 06:04

If it is public sector / civil service, most jobs are internally advertised, with a proper selection process. There may (or may not!) be lots of candidates.

category12 · 03/05/2019 06:07

Op, I'm glad you sent a pared down version of your message.

Please be very careful if you intend to bring up the rest of it, it could be misconstrued. I do think auntie needs to be insured up the wazoo, so that bit is worth taking up, but the rest may cause bad feeling.

Loopytiles · 03/05/2019 06:07

So you are probably declining the holiday for the possibility that taking a holiday could disadvantage you in your job application.

Springwalk · 03/05/2019 06:14

Take the job, and if you could go for a long weekend to show your face.

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