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to decline a family holiday in favour of my dream job

133 replies

sonsnet · 02/05/2019 14:51

Hi all.

First time poster here and not a mum (actually a son raised by brilliant women)! I've ghosted on the AIBU posts for a while now and thought this would be the best place to get advice.

My aunt was recently diagnosed with terminal cancer (less than 2 years left to live)! She recently had a stroke and, through the process, we uncovered that she did not have any of her affairs in proper order (will, finances, etc). There was a very intense period of about a week where I was forced to take time off work to help sort out all of these issues at very late notice, as we feared the worst as a result of her stroke.

She is much better now, though still terminal. She has offered to pay for a family trip to the USA to go to Disney World in September. She told our family about this on one day and the next day was asking us to confirm she could book our flights! I work in the kind of job where I can get annual leave at a moments notice and I've only recently had it confirmed, and she is every day pressuring me and my partner to confirm if we can come. It is all very rushed and already there have been lots of mix ups because things are being booked very quickly.

I am very grateful to be invited and I have already said thank you and that she is very generous (we are a big family). On the one hand, I think it's a very irresponsible spending because I know her finances are not in order and she will be leaving behind my Gran who paid for a big chunk of the house they share and will not be financially stable after she is gone. I have parked all of these concerns, though, because at the end of the day it is her money and she can spend it how she wants.

However, she keeps using her illness as a weapon to guilt people into going. My niece is going into reception in September and might miss her first day of school. My aunt keeps saying that she is terminally ill and that the school should make exceptions. I personally think no child should miss their first day of school but this is not my battle to fight.

I recently mentioned that I can not go for the full duration of the holiday (3 weeks long!) and will only be able to make it for 10 days at most because I cannot take such a long stint out of my job. She again tried to make me feel bad and pressure my job to give me more time off because she is terminally ill. I explained I couldn't do this and offered to organise all my own flights and travel myself because I know it's awkward for her.

But recently I was approached by my manager and basically told I would be stupid not to apply for a job that is coming up and that she is confident I would have a very good shot at getting it. It is a very high profile job and something I have had my eye on since I started my career (I am only 24 and feel like this is a vital stage). Unfortunately the job would start on 2nd September and the holiday takes place for the first 3 weeks of September. I spoke to my manager and the team recruiting for the role and, because of the high-profile and high-intensity nature of the role she feels it is unlikely I would be hired if I needed 10 days off right at the start.

I am now stuck between a rock and a hard place! I see my aunt all the time and I love her dearly, but now I dread telling her about this offer. It really is a very rare opportunity. Not quite once in a lifetime but something like it won't arise for a good few years and my career will probably suffer. Not that it matters, but I am the first in my family to go to university and the only one of my siblings who is in a professional job with a promising career. I have worked so hard to push my career forward and I feel heartbroken that I have to make this decision! No money has been spent on me so far for accomodation, flights or any kind of travel.

Would I be unreasonable to say no to the holiday?

OP posts:
DarlingNikita · 02/05/2019 15:38

I think take the job but have something else nice to suggest to your aunt instead.

Also, your aunt idea of a dream holiday sounds like hell on Earth to me. Absolutely NO need or good reason to say that Confused apart from wanting to be nasty.

IsYourGoogleBroken · 02/05/2019 15:40

Which country are you in OP? Re niece starting school and dates Private schools start much later

waterandlemonjuice · 02/05/2019 15:40

I have now read the rest of the replies and see I am completely disagreeing with everyone else! I still agree with myself Smile Also, life is not all about work, it really isn't. You have plenty of time for your career. You are young.

BUT if you don't really want to go, that's a different matter, don't go. Just don't not go because of the job.

BTW I have been in leadership roles for large companies for years and years and I would never turn someone down for a role because of 10 days leave, booked in advance. It just wouldn't make sense, I want the best person for the job and there aren't many things that can't wait 10 days tbh.

Also, imo you are more likely to regret not seeing your aunt and family than you are to regret the job (if indeed you were to apply and fail to get it because of your holiday)

SleepingStandingUp · 02/05/2019 15:40

How soon is the interview?

If the holiday is 1-21 and job starts 2nd could you work the first week 2-9th and fly out 11th?
If thry offer you the job do they have to accept any leave pre booked? Ask HR.

IsYourGoogleBroken · 02/05/2019 15:41

Maybe you can offer to take here to a spa day/afternoon tea or something the following month, just the two of you?

Yes, aunt and nephew on a spa day, he'd enjoy that Hmm

bloody spa days as the solution to every problem

SleepingStandingUp · 02/05/2019 15:41

@IsYourGoogleBroken thanks

1forAll74 · 02/05/2019 15:43

This job is what you have to go for without a doubt. Its' not being mean or disrespectful to your Aunt at all. you have to think about yourself and your future of course.

I enjoyed reading your well written post !!

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 02/05/2019 15:43

Take the job. Even if your auntie is allowed to fly, with terminal cancer the insurance cost will be far more than the holiday and probably unaffordable, and she must not go without it because (a) cancer is not predictable and (b) if she gets any other kind of illness at all it will cost a fortune if she has no insurance or if she fails to tell the insurers about the cancer.

I'm sorry to sound harsh and I'm sure you wont say this to your auntie but this holiday is just pie in the sky. Don't feel guilty about doing the sensible thing.

Antonin · 02/05/2019 15:44

Apply for the job and see if you get it THEN tell Aunt you’ve u expectedly been offered a fab job and sadly can’t go with her. How long has she got? Can you arrange a short break with her later in the year as a consolation?

user1471590586 · 02/05/2019 15:45

Could you aunt not move the holiday to a time that is easily for everyone?

LovesHisMummyReally · 02/05/2019 15:46

@IsYourGoogleBroken my hubby loves a good spa day! Don't be so sexist! In any case, it's not about him, clearly.

category12 · 02/05/2019 15:51

You haven't got the job yet.

PositiveVibez · 02/05/2019 15:51

You need to take the job.

Everyone saying holiday from hell etc., it is totally irrelevant and quite frankly a bit mean and pissy.

pallisers · 02/05/2019 15:53

Take the job.

I wouldn't go on this trip anyway if I were you - new dream job or not. I'd be amazed if it actually happens.

I hope to god your aunt has excellent health travel insurance because if she has any trouble in Florida, her finances will be in even worse condition.

CatG85 · 02/05/2019 15:59

Go for the job. It's your future. Your aunt should really understand this.

Drum2018 · 02/05/2019 15:59

Take the job. Who knows how your aunt will fare out over the next few months. She could have another stroke, the holiday could have to be cancelled. I personally wouldn't risk my career prospect for the chance of a holiday with extended family. Is your aunt planning on going too or just paying for everyone else? She is probably so caught up in her own world now and trying to fit things in while she still can, but she needs to realise that everyone else's lives have to go on as normal.

MumUnderTheMoon · 02/05/2019 16:01

Take the job don't put off your life goals for a 10day holiday.

Swishswish26 · 02/05/2019 16:02

If you are going away in September then it would seem that your niece will miss her first three weeks at school (assuming you are in the UK).
I love Disney World but would definitely say that if you are offered the job, you should take it.

LEELULUMPKIN · 02/05/2019 16:04

Hi OP,

You seem like a very nice, considerate person, so I can understand your dilemma.

I am currently in a similar situation, although I am the Aunt in this scenario and not (that I know) terminally ill.

We recently invited our DNephew (same age as you) on a "Dream Holiday" all expenses paid and he gratefully accepted.

He too is at a critical stage in his career and two weeks ago got his "Dream job" which, yes, of course is due to start whilst we are away.

It never once entered my or my DH's head that he should turn down such an opportunity for the sake of a holiday.

Of course we are disappointed, as is he, however at this stage his career is far, far more important than a jolly.

I understand that your Aunt is ill, however she is very wrong to emotionally blackmail you over this.

She may be a bit miffed but if she truly loves you (as I am sure she does) she will come around.

Take the job and good luck

SleepingStandingUp · 02/05/2019 16:05

@Swishswish26 I thought that but apparently private school kids need less time at school than state kids and don't start til late

AWishForWingsThatWork · 02/05/2019 16:08

No brainer: take the dream job.

As you're aunt's illness is showing you, life IS short. And these opportunities don't come around very often. You have your entire future to consider, and you've worked hard for this opportunity. Take it.

Tell you aunt you love her and you're looking forward to spending time with her here and you know that she's proud of how much you've accomplished so far in life, and that you know she supports your life goals. This is one of them. You are sure she understands.

Stand firm.

northerngirl2012 · 02/05/2019 16:21

Take the job opportunity, even if you don't get it sometimes going for something is such a good learning curve and puts you in the right place for the next thing that comes along.

Say no to your Aunt, apologise but say its just not possible due to work commitments etc. Then back away from this scenario.

crosspelican · 02/05/2019 16:24

Take the dream job.

But it kind of seems as though SHE is the one who won't be able to go. Travel insurance is not valid with certain pre-existing conditions and it's fair to say that terminal cancer qualifies as a pre-existing condition.

If she is unwell for ANY REASON while she's in the US her hospitalisation could run into the hundreds of thousands of pounds, even a million (I am not exaggerating), and her insurance will NOT COVER IT.

She would be better off sticking with a trip within Europe where her European Union Health Card would cover her.

Does she fully understand this?

Acis · 02/05/2019 16:28

If your aunt loves you, she should want you to go for the job. I'd hate to feel I'd prevented someone I loved from taking such a great opportunity, no matter how ill I was. If she really wants to spend that time with people she loves it would really make more sense to stay in the UK and invite them to come to stay near her or something. Can she actually get insurance to travel anyway?

Also, and very off the point, if your aunt and grandmother bought the house they share together, did they get any sort of life insurance to help cover expenses if one of them dies? They're likely to have been advised by their solicitor to do so, and if they had a mortgage it may have been a condition of the mortgage

Toooldtocareanymore · 02/05/2019 16:33

I think I'd go for job, but at interview I'd say I had 10 days booked off but if that caused serious concerns I'd be willing to cancel the first five days and reduce holiday time to 5 working days. With weekend travel you'd still get a full week with family on holiday which is probably plenty in the circumstances, and if you don't get position because of that then seriously look at this company and the job because if they'd give a job to someone else just because an arbitrary start date doesn't sit with holiday plans already made what sort of pressure would they put you under later years. This could all go awry just because manager says go for it doesn't mean its yours, there may be better qualified people, but you will always not know if you don't go for it. You already said to aunt you'd make your travel plans, So be clear now you wont be there first (?) week and while you hope to be there for ten days you might have to cut it down to a week if you get promotion at work, be prepared to pay for an extra ticket for flight there to keep both sides happy. I am sure you will know well in advance of travel time about the job and whether its yours or not. So just make sure the accommodation is just the sort you can book and cancel/ change in advance. or is your aunt thinking of a villa house type accommodation?

incidentally I agree with you about niece if I was parents of that child we would leave and fly home a few days early.

what does your partner think? are they invited? do they WANT to go?

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