To leave a 2 year old for 10 mins

[BlueSuedeStiletto]

2 year old asleep in a cot they can't get out of. Needed to pop to the shops. 10 minutes away if that, child asleep the whole time, doors locked etc. Friend is horrified. WIBU?

MN isn't just for parents. I ended up with a very good friend in RL that I "met" on here, who came to use the life limiting illness threads for support. She wasn't a parent, but she was MN royalty (as shown by the screeds of comments both before and after she'd died saying how loved she was).

A twat filter may be a good idea though!

Do any of you actually read anything properly on this forum? BlueSuedeStiletto i never said you tried to get me to change my mind about leaving a 2 year old at home i said you tried to get me to change my mind about not wanting to speak to people without children as i dont respect their opinion! But actually the more i think about it there are actually lots of mums on here who i think there opinion is just bollocks as clearly it comes so naturally to these people to be dickheads and timewasters and really really crap parents! As i said before unless we all think like that specific clique then we are not worthy of being allowed on this site and we must then all move to netmums! What a sad sad world you all live in, god forbid anyone cross you lot and still not bow down after many a nasty comment! I'm taking it that this has never happened to the clique before as usually said person would break!

Hany having RTFT it is you who is coming across as abrasive and insulting.

Have you read talk guidelines? Because personal attacks aren't allowed and you've made a fair few. I can't be arsed reporting to make a point, but I'm fairly sure you'd be the poster with significant deletions.

You're clearly new. This isn't the way to make your point.

Being charitable, perhaps what our dear Hany and sb really mean is that people should only comment about things of which they have direct experience.

Because that is totally how the internet works .

You do realise that this clique is all in your imagination? I don't think i have ever interacted with any of the posters on this thread before and we all do have a mind of our own. It just seems to be uniformly different from yours.

Everyone is welcome to post here as long as they post within the rules, debate is all good as far as I am concerned.

I genuinely think you would find many like-minded people on netmums but i'm not saying you should leave here, you are allowed to be members of both. It's also worth remembering that posters on here, including yourself, may or may not be telling the truth or be who they say they are.

I've been on here for more years than I care to think about, sometimes I agree with posters, sometimes I don't, sometimes I post to tell them (either way), sometimes I don't bother. At the end of the day, it's an anonymous forum whilst many people have had a lot of support from other posters, it's worth remembering that not everything is real.

InTheHeatOfLisbon i dont mean to be rude but go back and read all of it as i have been called racist, a bad mother, told to fuck off, that im stupid amongst other things so excuse me if i come across as a bit defensive! I was told to fuck right off just because i asked op why you would post such a stupid thread if a) it wasnt true and b) if you dont have any children

Not looking for an argument, just trying to help you see why you're not getting anywhere.

WaxOnFeckOff is this you admitting that you are a bullshitter!???

InTheHeatOfLisbon i wasnt arguing with you at all merely letting you know what i have put up with, it seems im not allowed an opinion!

Oh but actually MN is very cliquey as I’ve found out and they do love to round up on one another and attack as a group - quite startling actually

And certain peeps on here love to play the pious judgemental ‘I’m so much cleverer than you card’

Not mentioning any names of course..

So @Hanywany has my support in standing up to the mob!

Ok. I give up. I have tried to have a reasonable adult conversation with you hany. It's impossible though.

Best of luck out there in the world.

Fair enough, I just think that if you recognised the abrasiveness of your own tone when writing you wouldn't have had the responses you've had.

Aye MN can be cliquey, and this thread has gone to shit completely. I do agree with that.

Just trying to explain is all.

just because i asked op why you would post such a stupid thread if a) it wasnt true and b) if you dont have any children

It was true. OP’s only “crime” was not making clear that someone else left the child, not her. Calling people’s threads stupid is rude and arguably in breach of the Talk Guidelines.

And stop saying you were called a racist. You know that’s not true. I admit I did tell you to fuck off, I actually said it twice but MNHQ deleted the second one so you are semi-vindicated there.

Sofagirl thank you, yes they are very very cliquey as i have found out! I figured they all think there much cleverer, little do they actually realise they are not its so funny really! Because they actually really believe their own crap! Lol!

What the actual fuck are you going on about? 😂

Oh but actually MN is very cliquey as I’ve found out and they do love to round up on one another and attack as a group - quite startling actually

Sofagirl you do realise that this whole argument started because people objected to Hany and Sb’s calls for Mumsnet to be limited to a certain type of person? In other words, they wanted a clique and others were not happy with that!

JessieMcJessie you did call me racist!

JessieMcJessieits not a clique because i simply want to hear the opinions and advice of parents and parents alone, you know the people who have experience of parenting and bringing up children! shock horror!!!

Did you read ANY of the posts explaining how the analogy worked?

No way! So much can happen with a 2 year old. There’s always a first time for them to climb out of the cot. Our DD1 (10 now) once got her leg trapped in the side of the cot, which was when we transferred her to a big girl bed.

You could also be delayed in a cue at the shop, you can never be sure that you’ll be back as quick as you think.

At the very least, your little one could wake up and be scared that mummy isn’t there, and that could then lead to a serious attempt to climb out of the cot and a nasty accident.

YWBVU, not right at all.

WaxOnFeckOff is this you admitting that you are a bullshitter!???

Nope, I'm perfectly happy to share evidence to MNHQ that everything I post on here is 100% genuine. Can't speak for anyone else.

i simply want to hear the opinions and advice of parents and parents alone

Then I suggest that you ask for advice at the school gates and not on Mumsnet. But only after you’ve got rid of all the childminders and nannies of course.

Silly me, shooting from the hip, without RTFT. What a goady thread as well; you must have known how people would react.

Maybe if a lot of people are telling you the same thing then it's not that they're a clique... Maybe it's because you're wrong?

Now I know I'm just an idiot who knows fuck all as I've never birthed a wisdom endowing baby from my blessed vagina, but maybe give it a bit of thought.

I don't actually care whether someone is a parent or not, it really depends on what I'm asking. I might ask about the colour of paint I want for my walls or about who I want to win bake off or about some parenting issue, as long as someone is giving appropriate views then what does it actually matter? Teachers and midwifes and Drs and nursery staff all know about elements of raising children but may be childless. People without children can often see things from a different standpoint it doesn't mean that they have nothing to offer.

You just filter your responses, for every ten responses you will get 2 that are batshit, 2 that are on the wrong thread, 3 that don't work for your circumstance, 2 that haven't read the thread and 1 useful response.