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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To start another unpopular opinions thread...

427 replies

Mammylamb · 23/04/2019 22:14

... as the last one is full

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Amazonfromkent · 26/04/2019 13:36

Hollie Willoughby is NOT a national treasure either.

SecretWitch · 26/04/2019 14:18

I wish to say, the most intelligent, kindest, badass woman I knew, had many tattoos. She was my clinical social worker supervisor and mentor

Mammylamb · 26/04/2019 14:26

I dislike Holly and Philip Schofield too. Maybe because I was suffering in agony after complications of a gallbladder removal and they were pissing themselves onscreen because another celeb had a gallbladder attack after eating chocolate

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Mammylamb · 26/04/2019 15:51

Oh yes. On mumsnet, it seems to be assumed that anyone not in a well paid job with big fancy job hasn’t worked hard enough.

There is probably an element of work, but luck comes into it a lot.

I have a fairly well paid job (for the area I live in) and a fairly large house. I’m from a council estate.

I don’t think I worked any harder than most people still living in the area I grew up in. I was lucky to have supportive parents and a stable childhood. I was lucky to be fairly intelligent. I was lucky that I married someone with well off parents who paid the deposit on our first house. And we were lucky to have bought just before a leap in house prices. (First flat bought for £60k, sold for £90k 3 years later)

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Mammylamb · 26/04/2019 15:53

Oh and I think tattoos look tacky.

But I don’t think they say anything about the people who wear them

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amandacarnet · 26/04/2019 16:16

I'm of the unpopular opinion that wages for any given job are primarily set by supply and demand and not by any sense of fairness. I've seen it throughout my entire career, and it's just a reality.

If that was true, then science teachers would be well paid, and GPS in deprived areas would be extremely well paid. Same for midwives. Instead non science specialists teach science, and many GP positions stay vacant for years.
You are assuming that employers do not try and save money by managing vacancies in other ways. One way todo that is just not to fill them, another way is to get non specialists to do the role, another way is to get much lower paid staff to do part of that job aka teaching assistants, social work assistants, etc.
There are so many examples where your belief simplydoesnothold up.

Smotheroffive · 26/04/2019 16:29

@ParrotWithACarrot
Your post is misinformed, as other pp have also confirmed

Smotheroffive · 26/04/2019 16:29

It doesn't work like that.

Whatistheworldcominto · 26/04/2019 16:42

Drogosnextwife

Also, just because a job has a higher salary does not mean it is more stressful, hard work or worthwhile than a low paying job.

Exactly, just means society doesn't value it, and when you consider that care assistants and childcare workers (among others) often earn low wages, that's quite a scary thought.

@MissConductUS

I'm of the unpopular opinion that wages for any given job are primarily set by supply and demand and not by any sense of fairness. I've seen it throughout my entire career, and it's just a reality.

I agree about the sense of fairness and that it's reality - I've lived it. It's a harsh reality too.
But if the reason was supply and demand then surely care assistants, nurses, teaching assistants etc would be paid far more? Isn't there a shortage of people to fill these jobs?

havingtochangeusernameagain · 26/04/2019 17:06

My “big” car has lower emissions than a Ford Focus

Is that because it is electric/hybrid? Ok so it doesn't pollute, but big cars still block roads and take up too much room in car parks. Big cars contribute to traffic jams because you can't get past them or they can't get past things.

Anyway probably getting a bit too deep for a thread that was supposed to be lighthearted.

havingtochangeusernameagain · 26/04/2019 17:07

I don't think carpets belong in bathrooms. Although I am not sure that is such an unpopular opinion.

Drogosnextwife · 26/04/2019 18:21

havingtochangeusernameagain

Not unpopular at all. My mum and dad had carpet in the bathroom and little down stairs toilet for years. I bloody hated it!

TheFastandCurious · 26/04/2019 18:40

How so motheroffive? How would nurseries cope with every child in reusables?

MissConductUS · 26/04/2019 18:43

@Whatistheworldcominto

But if the reason was supply and demand then surely care assistants, nurses, teaching assistants etc would be paid far more? Isn't there a shortage of people to fill these jobs?

In my experience when there's a genuine shortage wages go up to attract more people. They're going up now in the US as unemployment is so low. Amazon recently had to raise their starting wage for warehouse and fulfillment workers to hang onto them. The US had a terrible shortage or nurses about 15 years ago so nursing pay went through the roof. Nurses who were working part time put in more hours. Some I know even came out of retirement because the money was so good. More students went into nursing school as a result too, which created more supply in a few years. Nursing wages here are still high, about double what they are in the UK, but I think that's because we have so many employers competing for them.

ExpletiveDelighted · 26/04/2019 18:46

How would nurseries cope with every child in reusables?

Take nappy off child, tip solids down the toilet, place wet nappy in zip-up (reusable, washable) waterproof bag from the child's nappy bag, take clean nappy from child's nappy bag and place on child. Dirties go home in the evening, clean bag and nappies (and washable wipes) come in with child in the morning.

TheFastandCurious · 26/04/2019 18:54

Thank you for clearing that up Expletive. It sounds like a whole nursery like that would be very smelly though with 30 kids bagged up poo and all parents would be doing in the evenings is washing nappies.

Maybe my mum who tells me about liners, nappy rash, buckets of Milton with soaking nappies and the endless stress of them has given me the wrong impression.

Smotheroffive · 26/04/2019 18:57

You have it wrong again Parrot

I'm afraid I don't have time to detail everything for every time an ill-informed post is put up. It's just not like that though, as already explained more than once by others

TheFastandCurious · 26/04/2019 18:58

It’s ok smother if rather learn from less rude posters anyway.

Smotheroffive · 26/04/2019 19:01

And I don't have time can't be arsed to reply to ignorant posters that are arrogant enough to be rude also!

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ExpletiveDelighted · 26/04/2019 19:05

One extra load of washing every couple of days is really not that hard to manage. Modern nappies don't need soaking, just keep them in a lidded bucket till you are ready to wash them.

Smotheroffive · 26/04/2019 19:10

Well you’re a little ray of sunshine aren’t you? DFOD

Oh the irony! Now telling posters to fuck off. Nice. This is what I mean about ignorant posters! What a little ray of sunshine indeed

TheFastandCurious · 26/04/2019 19:11

Expletive, in retirement homes, a proper sluice room with separate cleaning items and chemicals must be used. I don’t know if the same rules would have to apply by law in nurseries.

Smotheroffive · 26/04/2019 19:14

Parrot you have ignored what expletive already explained. Don't ignore what's written and then expect someone to keep on explaining it to you.

Nurseries don't do that.

TheFastandCurious · 26/04/2019 19:14

You have been so aggressive and rude to me from the off Smother. Name calling and nastiness. Seriously what do you expect other than finally getting told to fuck off. I politely queried a post that wasn’t even yours and just went on the attack.

Whatever your issue is just leave me out of it ok?

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