To start another unpopular opinions thread...

[Mammylamb]

... as the last one is full

I don't understand how there can be an Extinction Rebellion protest with no mention of overpopulation.

She obviously means autism/ADHD and so on. Threads like these always attract these shitty human beings.

I wholeheartedly agree and also think she was making a snide dig about ASD, ADHD, etc.

ASD is a lifelong neurodevelopment condition. It is shit all to do with parenting, environment, diet, and so forth. While adapting these things to the autistic individual can help make life stressful them, they are not the cause of the autism in the first place.

It is not a label, it is a medical diagnosis and it is actually very difficult to obtain such a diagnosis.

Phrases like "label", "quick to apply labels", "bad parenting", etc are the hallmark of disabilist dickheads.

Notice how I said step parents, and not just step mums. Men can be awful for their partners kids too. I presume some PPs are making a jibe. You generally know what children will be like as you were once one yourself and no doubt have been around others. Being childless is not an excuse for shitty behaviour towards your step-child

Dogs that are left alone for 10+ hours a day from puppies, not walked, loved etc. should be removed from the home. RSPCA need to stop being such pushovers when it comes to the treatment of animals

FFS12345:
100% agree with you that your MIL should not have photos of you partners ex marriage. Once a marriage has been dissolved i feel families must respect the decision and at least take down photos ect - had a similar experience with my ex MIL (I had to eventually say something they even had a fucking video.

Women are socialised to massively rely on approval from other women and it directly inhibits their liberation both collectively and individually.

Privacy is the aegis of abuse and prevents far more justice than it represents. Pervasive surveillance, overseen by a transparent security service, would reduce rape and murder to such an extent as to make a right to privacy seem a disgusting obscenity.

Women have the same right to having children that men have to sex - none whatsoever. The fact that IVF is supported on the NHS is bizarre.

EDM (electronic dance music) can be creative, dramatic and even clever.

Meph agree re EDM

about this surveillance - where would it be?

meph also agree re IVF.

If you claim that you worked hard for your huge house, or brand new sports car, or expensive clothing, you are probably unaware of what hard work actually is.

Pervasive surveillance, overseen by a transparent security service, would reduce rape and murder to such an extent as to make a right to privacy seem a disgusting obscenity.

WTAF? BTW there is no such thing as a "transparent" security service - the two things are conflicting objectives.

Breeding pets is not always a bad thing. A cat having kittens when there aren't rescue centres full of cats and kittens isn't a big deal. If theres a surplus of unwanted pets, then it should be avoided.

Dogs left on their own for hours daily isn't the end of the world, if they're warm, well fed and safe with love given each day. Far more than most dogs around the world have.

Hunting animals for sport isn't always evil- it aids conservation in some areas by creating jobs for locals and meaning the animals become a source of income, and that the successful breeding of the animals is therefore of value to them, the rarer the species the more hunters pay so the more value in propagating the species. And meet eaters that rant about animals being killed for sport are the greatest hypocrites ever!

I'm not defending my own position here. I dont hunt, I dont breed pets and someone is at home all day with my dogs. But I wouldn't feel at all guilty if I did any of the above.

Sometimes it IS down to parenting
Some people are simply arseholes, no Dr Google diagnosis needed
A teenage pregnancy is NOT a blessing, it's just sad
Children are far more resilient than they are given the chance to be

WTAF? BTW there is no such thing as a "transparent" security service - the two things are conflicting objectives.

Not necessarily. An internal security service does not require secrecy to operate the way external services do.

about this surveillance - where would it be?

Anywhere a woman could be raped and have it only her word against another's and all electronic communications. It is terrible that a woman (or a man, but ya know - statistics...) can have her emails and texts taken apart, but an accused rapists internet history isn't. In essence, the victim is already under surveillance in a way the accused isn't - I see this as unjust.

Extreme view, I know, and a VERY unpopular opinion, but when people ask me "how far would you go to prevent rape?" I can usually be comfortable saying "further than you would."

meph but that's literally everywhere.

and why would you trust the people running the system?

why would you trust the people running the system?

Because they would be being observed and recorded too. It's what I mean by a transparent service.

meph that's got to end somewhere - I mean the chain of "who will watch the watchers".

I'm still interested to know where you mean. I don't want cameras in my workplace or in bathrooms etc. We do have cameras along the corridors at work after some thefts, but not on every single desk IYSWIM.

Just think: every interaction between politicians and businessmen recorded. Every party for political donors observed. A woman walks into a movie producers office and knows that everything he says will be seen by everyone else. Who stole your bag? You will know. Is that boss harassing you? Everyone sees. Male colleague getting paid more? Proof, and proof whether they do/do not deserve it, too. Children playing freely in the streets, because now it's the predators turn to walk in fear. Jogging in the evening? Walking home at night? All safer, because justice is no longer blind.

that's got to end somewhere - I mean the chain of "who will watch the watchers".

I'd like a black-box AI, but in absence of that I'd say the chain ends the same place it does with the rest of the justice system - a jury of your peers.

And personally, I'd be happy to have cameras and microphones everywhere. The question I had to ask myself was, how many rapes would it have to prevent for me to accept living in a big brother scenario? I found that the answer, in my opinion, was only one.

Because they would be being observed and recorded too. It's what I mean by a transparent service.

Sure, but they're the ones who are in charge of the recordings - see the problem? When you give governments loads of power, someone is in charge and others are not. It's inherently asymmetrical.

Your post is the most bonkers I've read on this entire thread, hats off to you!

Personally I am absolutely baffled by all the posters on Mumsnet who think that you shouldn't get a dog if you are planning to leave it for more than 3 hours a day. When I was growing up everybody had dogs and everybody went out to work. The dogs were absolutely fine and you would have been laughed out of town if you suggested sending your dog to doggy daycare.

Meph are you a man?

And personally, I'd be happy to have cameras and microphones everywhere. The question I had to ask myself was, how many rapes would it have to prevent for me to accept living in a big brother scenario? I found that the answer, in my opinion, was only one.

I’m entirely fairly law-abiding, but I think it would be quite stressful to be watched absolutely all the time. I suspect there could be unintended consequences. Potentially more aggression and violence towards whoever/whatever is less protected in law and in society. I find it hard to imagine that surveillance would prevent crime, although it could be useful evidence after crimes have been committed.

I said 10+ hours, not 3 Anyone who gets offended by someone sticking up for animals that deserve good care clearly don’t care themselves imo. If you think it’s acceptable to leave a puppy alone all day then go for it! It’s an opinions thread after all

Actually I don't care if you are a man or a woman. Anyone who thinks women should be under constant surveillance with no right to their own privacy, and their agency and freedom totally curtailed, to avoid being raped by men, is either incredibly stupid or extremely goady.

Perhaps men could (this is just a novel idea here) stop raping women.

I don't believe my DH or my DSs need to be watched all the time to stop them raping women, do you feel you need to be watched all the time to stop yourself from raping someone?

Perhaps men could (this is just a novel idea here) stop raping women.

Quite right.

Weird as fuck.