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AIBU not to give my mum a special ‘role’ in my wedding?

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EveryDayImHustlin · 22/04/2019 12:02

Planning my wedding at the moment. It’s in 6 months and I’m getting so stressed about my family politics. This is a bit long so the short version is, AIBU not to give my mum a specific ‘role’ in my wedding in response to her passive aggressive digs about my dad?

My parents are divorced and both are remarried. Without going into a whole massive back story, my parents’ divorce was very messy and my mum did a few things which were less than ideal. Our relationship was quite strained for a few years as a result, but we’ve long since made up, I’ve forgiven her, and it was a very long time ago (I was 17 then, I’m 36 now!)

However, I think my mum still has some unresolved guilt about the whole thing and it manifests as a bit of a martyr complex where unfortunately she seems to be expecting to be shoved out or punished in some way. This has resulted in a number of passive aggressive digs about my wedding which I would really like to stop now, or it’s going to be a long and stressful six months and I’d quite like to just enjoy the lead up to my wedding!

For example, she asked if my dad would be giving me away and doing a Father of the Bride speech. I said yes, because I know those things are important to him, and he’s been looking forward to them my whole life. She just grumbled something about how she’d have to somehow make sure people knew who she was, and that I shouldn’t worry about her feeling left out (but in a tone that very much suggested the exact opposite).

She asked me where she would be sitting at dinner and whether my dad would be next to me at the top table. I said I didn’t know yet and we’d probably just do whatever is traditional, and she got into a bit of a huff about potentially being seated ‘far away’ from me (two or three seats away at most, and it’s an informal dinner where we’ll be seated for an hour max!) I said I welcomed her suggestions and she could sit next to me if she wanted, or maybe she and my dad could swap half way through dinner or something like that, and of course she immediately just told me not to be silly and that it didn’t matter and of course I should sit next to my dad.

She also keeps making comments about how she’s sorry that she can’t afford to pay more towards the wedding, the subtext (I think) being that my dad has sooo much more money than her. I keep reminding her that my dad isn’t paying, we’re paying for it ourselves! But she still brings it up and acts like it’s a big deal.

Don’t even get me started on the guilt trip about needing to invite some of her friends because she ‘won’t know anyone’ (except her husband and all her kids and their partners and her grandchildren of course!)

I’ve probably made her sound awful and she’s not, she’s lovely and very caring really, but just has this really paranoid/insecure/passive aggressive side to her that is so hard to deal with. She also keeps telling me not to let my dad tell me what to do or let him take over the day (which he isn’t, he’s basically going to be turning up on the day and walking me down the aisle because we’re planning and paying for everything ourselves).

A few people have suggested that I ask her to do a reading or something in order to give her a ‘role’ and make her feel special. My problem with this is that my fiancé’s parents aren’t doing anything like that, and I feel reluctant to have the whole day feel like a performance by my family! His family are already much quieter than mine (who are all, err, strong personalities) and I can’t help feeling like it’s going to feel like the ‘My Family Show’ as it is. His family would literally never complain about anything and will happily go along with whatever we decide, which is what makes it all the more frustrating when my own mother makes me feel so stuck and like I can’t do anything right. And yes, I guess I am reluctant to feel like I’m ‘rewarding’ bad behaviour from her (can’t quite believe I feel that way about one of my own parents!)

My mum has been dress shopping with me, will be coming along to my makeup trial next week, and will spend all morning having breakfast and getting ready with me on the day - why am I being made to feel like this isn’t enough? If you tot up her involvement in the wedding vs my dad’s then she’s actually far more involved than he is.

I had a word with her last night and said that it makes me sad that she’d put so much emphasis on a seat at dinner or a speech, and that she might somehow feel ‘less’ than my dad because of these tiny things, and she told me that I was imagining it and that it wasn’t how she felt at all. But I know my own mother and all the little comments and digs very much say otherwise.

So, next time she says something AIBU to tell her in no uncertain terms that I do not want to hear another word about it and that she is making me dread my wedding day with her constant niggling about it? I love her dearly and it breaks my heart that she’s apparently feeling so insecure about things but I can’t keep feeling so stressed about this!

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DeadDoorpost · 22/04/2019 12:28

OP, as someone whose DM made a fuss as well, I'm telling you now she doesn't need to do FA. Have a table to yourself and your stbDH. Don't have parents at the top table. It only causes problems. My DM emotionally blackmailed me into using crystal glasses she's had for years DESPITE the fact my DF and DSM had bought purple champagne flutes specially for the wedding for me and DH. We used both but she had a right hissy fit. She was also annoyed about me asking my DSM to organise things for the wedding but she was 100% the right choice because she's the most organised person I know, and LITERALLY deals with things like this for a living. DM couldn't even do what I'd asked her to do anyway. I had to do it in the end.

And don't invite any of her friends. It's your day. You have who YOU want there. Seriously. You don't owe anyone anything. If you want your DF to walk you down the aisle, you do that. Your DM doesn't need to do anything.

PlasmaRain · 22/04/2019 12:30

Tell her she needs to get over herself because she already has a role, she’s the Mother of the Bride and she’s already doing all the traditional stuff like dress shopping etc, and you want your dad to do the other traditional stuff. She needs to buy a hat and maybe spare a thought for the groom’s mother who, as traditional wedding roles go, is pretty much a walk on. Tell her you’ll be going with a traditional top table - l to r: maid of honor, groom’s father, bride’s mother, groom, bride, bride’s father, groom’s mother, best man.

TwoBlueFish · 22/04/2019 12:32

This kind of thing is why I had a small wedding! My husband and I walked down the aisle together (registry office) my sister and I got ready together. We had our reception in a pub so no top tables or seating plan.

I think my mum would have been pissed off if my dad walked me down the aisle as she was the one who did most of the bringing up. Could you let your mum do a speech and also offer your in laws the opportunity as well.

EveryDayImHustlin · 22/04/2019 12:33

“How many mothers does it take to change a lightbulb?- “Oh! Don’t worry about me, I’ll just sit here alone n the dark...””.

Ha! I hadn’t heard that before but that is EXACTLY what she is like Grin oh bless her.

We are leaning towards a ‘sweetheart’ table so that no one sits with us and our families can mix and mingle a bit. This is my fiancé’s preference anyway as he is a quiet chap and I think he’d appreciate some time to gather his thoughts and just enjoy eating with me before he does his speech, rather than having to be ‘on’ and sociable when he’s already feeling nervous. We’re still thinking about it though.

I could definitely have my brother walk my mum in before me, that’s a great idea too!

I will ask my dad how he would feel about her walking with me... they get on ok now but definitely aren’t friends (she is the one who had an affair and left him all those years ago) so I feel like he would be a bit upset at the idea but maybe he’ll surprise me.

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junebirthdaygirl · 22/04/2019 12:34

Here the brides mum is usually escorted down the aisle by her ds or brother just before bride arrives . She can also wear the biggest hat so everyone will know she is special!!!
Also if it's in a church both mothers carry bread/ wine to the priest but that may not apply.
Don't let her stress you out ..it should be a fun time preparing.
Good news...your inlaws sound great so no drama ahead which is a bonus.

DanielRicciardosSmile · 22/04/2019 12:35

I was also going to suggest having her witness the register. We had DM and MIL as witnesses so as to give them a "role" so to speak.

EveryDayImHustlin · 22/04/2019 12:36

Yes, touch wood, my in-laws are fab and very relaxed, chilled out people (like their son) so hopefully I really don’t need to worry about them... although who knows, still six months to go and weddings have a way of bringing things out of people as I’m learning!

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Mrsjayy · 22/04/2019 12:38

Recent wedding we went to with divorced and re married parents the B&G had best man and bridesmaids at their table the parents were hosting other tables

EveryDayImHustlin · 22/04/2019 12:38

On the subject of why I’m having my dad walk me down the aisle, this is something I wrestled with for AGES as honestly my preference as a feminist would be just to walk on my own. But I saw how happy and proud it made my dad to walk my sister down the aisle a few years ago and I eventually decided that as it would mean a lot to him, I wanted to give him that moment. When I asked him he was really surprised and delighted as he knows my views and had really not been expecting it!

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Nanny0gg · 22/04/2019 12:38

She's got a role! It's called Mother of the Bride!

She'll be in the main photos. She'll be in the pre-wedding photos (if you're having them) She'll sit between your husband and new FiL at the meal (on the top table if you're having one)

She may even wear a special corsage!

What more does she want?

Mrsjayy · 22/04/2019 12:41

Get your mum the biggèst hat you can find then EVERYBODY will know Grin

TerryWogansWilly · 22/04/2019 12:41

but I don't see why people in 2019 are still having their dads give them away.

Erm because they want to?

It's an incredibly sexist retro tradition. And "because they want to" doesn't actually explain why people want to engage in an offensive shitty tradition

EveryDayImHustlin · 22/04/2019 12:42

Thank you everyone Flowers

I have to go out now but you’ve all made me feel so much better (even those of you questioning my feminist credentials Grin) and given me some great ideas. I will be googling Unity Candles later!

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TerryWogansWilly · 22/04/2019 12:43

On the subject of why I’m having my dad walk me down the aisle, this is something I wrestled with for AGES as honestly my preference as a feminist would be just to walk on my own. But I saw how happy and proud it made my dad to walk my sister down the aisle a few years ago and I eventually decided that as it would mean a lot to him, I wanted to give him that moment. When I asked him he was really surprised and delighted as he knows my views and had really not been expecting it!

But can't you see that your mother might also feel proud walking with you? And if dh already walked your sister down it's a bit sad that your mother will never have that.

EveryDayImHustlin · 22/04/2019 12:43

And "because they want to" doesn't actually explain why people want to engage in an offensive shitty tradition

I already gave my explanation for this a few posts above but thank you for your thoughts!

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AlexaAmbidextra · 22/04/2019 12:44

I wouldn’t do as a PP suggested and ask DM and possibly PILS too to do speeches. Your guests will be dying from boredom. Really, three speeches is more than enough.

TerryWogansWilly · 22/04/2019 12:44

Im just saying if someone gets to walk you down the aisle or have a special role it's worth considering the person who gave birth to you! Good luck for your wedding Flowers

GreenTulips · 22/04/2019 12:45

Option

AIBU not to give my mum a special ‘role’ in my wedding?
EveryDayImHustlin · 22/04/2019 12:45

Sorry, cross-posted. Yes, it would make her happy, but it might really upset my dad to have to walk down the aisle with the woman who had an affair and left him to raise four children... but I have already said I will ask him what he thinks so maybe we can work something out.

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cuppycakey · 22/04/2019 12:45

Elope

TerryWogansWilly · 22/04/2019 12:45

Sorry op that post was to a sarky poster earlier.

EveryDayImHustlin · 22/04/2019 12:46

Thanks everyone, I really am going now!

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GreenTulips · 22/04/2019 12:46

Fuck it - it’s your wedding splash out

AIBU not to give my mum a special ‘role’ in my wedding?
AIBU not to give my mum a special ‘role’ in my wedding?
cabingirl · 22/04/2019 12:48

I had my mother and my mother-in-law be the witnesses to signing the register - it's a specific role, her name will be in the formal documentation forever, you can share it with someone from your in-laws side and it won't be too 'out there' for them.

Mememeplease · 22/04/2019 12:59

So what if she's doing it. Ignore and let it all go over your head. An internal eye roll and mental shrug of your shoulders. This is her problem - not yours.

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