The damning Mueller Report is out - but Trump thinks he’s exonerated (Trump thread 93)

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... not only that, he’s threatening treason charges on those who investigated him.

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3540624-Mueller-time-for-Trump-and-his-friends-will-they-all-meet-in-a-courtyard-surrounded-by-a-big-beautiful-wall-Trump-thread-92

Going after Biden ...

www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/us/politics/biden-son-ukraine.html

'The Trump team’s efforts to draw attention to the Bidens’ work in Ukraine, which is already yielding coverage in conservative media, has been led partly by Rudolph W. Giuliani, who served as a lawyer for Mr. Trump in the investigation by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. Mr. Giuliani’s involvement raises questions about whether Mr. Trump is endorsing an effort to push a foreign government to proceed with a case that could hurt a political opponent at home.

Mr. Giuliani has discussed the Burisma investigation, and its intersection with the Bidens, with the ousted Ukrainian prosecutor general and the current prosecutor. He met with the current prosecutor multiple times in New York this year. The current prosecutor general later told associates that, during one of the meetings, Mr. Giuliani called Mr. Trump excitedly to brief him on his findings, according to people familiar with the conversations.

Mr. Giuliani declined to comment on any such phone call with Mr. Trump, but acknowledged that he has discussed the matter with the president on multiple occasions. Mr. Trump, in turn, recently suggested he would like Attorney General William P. Barr to look into the material gathered by the Ukrainian prosecutors — echoing repeated calls from Mr. Giuliani for the Justice Department to investigate the Bidens’ Ukrainian work and other connections between Ukraine and the United States.'

www.thedailybeast.com/the-gops-just-a-racket-now-and-trump-is-its-godfather-barr-its-wartime-consigliere?source=twitter&via=desktop

'It’s May Day, and this was a Mayday all right. May 1, 2019 will go down as one of the dark days in the history of this republic.

You think that’s overstated? Then tell me another time when an attorney general went before a committee of the United States Senate and lied like that to protect a lying president. The day after being caught in another whopping lie as we learned about the existence of Robert Mueller’s letter taking issue with the way Bill Barr had characterized the Mueller Report, which Barr had lied about to Congress previously.'

? This is astonishing.

Laurence Tribe @tribelaw
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Barr testified today that all a president needs if he wants to end an investigation into his own criminal conduct is a belief that he’s innocent. That suffices to clear him of all charges of obstructing justice. No kidding. No wonder Barr didn’t need to read the Mueller evidence!

I think a lot of people in power have chosen to not read the report.

lion I agree about your witch-hunt comment. See Gorka’s post below. Ignore that it’s Gorka, though - he could be somewhat right. When asked if he was going to go after these people, Barr hesitated - he stammered. That might mean nothing, but it could mean everything.

Sebastian Gorka DrG @SebGorka
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I don’t know if the Secret Service has a Call-Sign for Attorney General Barr.

If they need one, it should be:

    HONEY-BADGER.

Did you pay careful attention today to what he said?

It’s showtime for Brennan, Clapper, Hayden, Hillary, Obama, Lynch, Rice, Ben Rhodes, et al.

Yes, it is evident from various Trump supporting tweets and accounts that this is the plan. I think they are just waiting for the timing to be right (in political terms).

I notices Barr referenced Rosenstein at a few key points yesterday. Not sure whether he is using him as a shield or trying to ensure that if anyone gets thrown under the bus it will be RR and not WB.

So... the Mueller letter..
www.palmerreport.com/analysis/letter-uglier-mueller-william-barr/17700/

I just wanted to also put up a comment from someone on all of this..

^The problem is our system is broken the president can hire the AG to protect him instead of the people by giving his son in a law a job in the white house and his daughter a job at the DOJ. Trump can buy off Mitch Mcconnell senate majoirty leader by giving his wife a job in his cabinet. Trump is apparently allowed to fire nearly all his advisors and not fill their positions to aquire more power. The democrats are in a rough spot since the impeachment easily would pass the House, but we would need 20 spineless republicans to actually due their duty the consitution and vote to impeach which wont happen. In the meantime Ivanka is in the process or creating all our new voting machines, easy to see they plan on rigging 2020. The Orange POS conintues to get away with obstruction of justice. If my count is correct we are to at least 13 obstruction of justice charges now. The republcian party used to have values and stood for something now they just want to take money from the Big Pharma, Insurance Companies, NRA, and other governments its just a sad world we live in.

I would say the worst part of all of it is the poorest states are red states they need the help that progessives want to give them more then anybody and yet they always vote against their own best interest. The republians are more then happy with our education system being broken as its much easier to brainwash people that are uneducated. The republicans seem to be happy that the FDA no longer checks our food or drugs. The republicans seem happy with the EPA being crippled to the point where we cannot stop pollution or preserve our water. The republicans claim fake news about global warming even when all the best and brightest in the field of science will all tell you that we need to act now. The republicans are to simplistic to even see that 8 percent is what single payer countries pay for healthcare and the average american pays 17.5 percent.

Every day of Trumps presidency feels like a nightmere that wont end, and we seem to be powerless to stop it^

Sorry, the italics didn't work

Barr was trying to argue that trump should have the Divine right of kings
Wtf

Barr, handled it with professionalism?
Well I suppose we could say he's a professional bullshiter but I think his bullshiting was transparent, at best he's an amateur

I enjoyed the interview with Hillary Clinton on the Rachel maddow show, especially where she makes the point that China could hack the IRS and expose trump tax returns

The Assange sentence got lost in all that bluster yesterday.

www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/a27335178/kamala-harris-bill-barr-senate-hearing/?utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=socialflowTWELM&utm_source=twitter

Rousette, the formatting doesn't carry across paragraph breaks, you need a ^ each end of each paragraph.

Assange extradition hearing today.

Now adjourned until the end of the month.

Thanks Annie, I often wondered why it didn't work!

This is an interesting take on how Trump operates... scary

www.nytimes.com/2019/05/01/opinion/william-barr-testimony.html

'Amoral leaders have a way of revealing the character of those around them. Sometimes what they reveal is inspiring. For example, James Mattis, the former secretary of defense, resigned over principle, a concept so alien to Mr. Trump that it took days for the president to realize what had happened, before he could start lying about the man.

But more often, proximity to an amoral leader reveals something depressing. I think that’s at least part of what we’ve seen with Bill Barr and Rod Rosenstein. Accomplished people lacking inner strength can’t resist the compromises necessary to survive Mr. Trump and that adds up to something they will never recover from. It takes character like Mr. Mattis’s to avoid the damage, because Mr. Trump eats your soul in small bites.'

There is something uniquely weird about Trump, how can he be so dumb and yet so good at manipulating people, why are so many seemingly decent people prepared to Sacrifice themselves for him?

He's The President of the United States.

Comey's description of the way Trump creates complicity in people around him is very similar to the description by Michael D'Antonio, who published a biography of Trump in 2015.

Trump constantly misbehaves, forcing anyone in the vicinity who's trying to get anything done, to compromise or at least ignore some of the shitstream. Then Trump holds it over them, claiming they were complicit in his previous misbehaviour and therefore agree with him, or anyway have lost any right to criticise his future misbehaviour, or anyway he'll see to it that they're eaten first.

Barr is a no show (no surprise there).

www.rawstory.com/2019/05/nadler-tears-into-trump-and-bill-barr-after-attorney-general-refuses-to-show-up-to-house-hearing/

Well worth watching Nadler's statement.

www.c-span.org/video/?459923-1/house-judiciary-committee-chair-threatens-contempt-attorney-general-skips-hearing

"If we don't stand up to [Trump] today, we risk forever losing the power to stand up to any president in the future. The system of not having a President as a dictator is very much at stake." Nadler.