To smoke in my own garden

[LittleBear4]

I am a smoker. I smoke 10 fags a day and I'm not planning on giving it up yet (one day!).

In smoke in my garden, I've got two neighbours either side and one every time I'm smoking will come out and say 'it stinks out here' and will start to cough loudly.

It's really getting on my nerves, I can't move down the end of the garden because it's tiny and would make no difference at all but AIBU to hate the passive aggressive comments when I'm smoking in my garden?

I'm not a smoker but would have no problem with someone lighting up in their own back garden! YANBU OP!

Unless you shower, wash your hair, brush you teeth and change your clothes after every fag you are still inflicting it on your children.

In that case she might as well just blow the smoke right in their faces then, eh?

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There are PPs showing themselves to be quite hysterical. And intolerant of other PP & their right to get on with their normal lives.

I wouldn't like to live next to someone who was intolerant, sanctimonious and had a shrill enough voice, that I can hear every word of their talk in the garden. I can imagine I'd feel their unpleasant & histrionic behaviour shouldn't be inflicted upon me. So.... on balance...
I'd much prefer to live next door to the smoker who's polite and kind, even if a tiny bit of it wafts my way at times. I'm asthmatic, but am pretty sure I'll survive . Garden BBQs and fires are more problematic for me and would send me inside/closing all the windows. (Without making any PA comments of course )

Hysterical for not wanting us or our kids to breath in fumes that the CDC state even in brief short term exposure triggers changes that cause cancer

Ofgs. All our DC breathe in far more fumes walking along roads from car exhaust, than the tiny bit of smoke that is greatly disapated in outside air of a waft from a smoker outside in a garden. Health researchers are talking about sustained and significant exposure, like being regularly sat in a car or room with someone smoking.

OP is hardly blowing it in the face of her NDN's DC. Nor has she said at any point that she goes out and smokes when her NDN's DC are playing in their garden. So yes, there's quite some exagoration and hysteria in this thread. When none of that is necessary.

Is smoking a naice habit? no.
Is OP allowed to smoke in her own garden? yes.
Is she smoking excessively at 10 a day or antisocially by hanging underneath NDN's window and blowing it in there? no.
Is music or DIY noise, shrill nagging voices, children shrieking, second hand smoke, BBQ smoke, bonfire smoke, dogs barking, neighbours cats coming into your gardens to poo, bad parking, NDN's letting gardens overgrow, leaving house to get shabby outside, gardening at early o'clock, leaving garden a mess or washing out constantly overnight, wasting water to wash your car every Sunday, all a bit antisocial to NDNs? yes. And so is everyday life stuff.
Are NDN being passive aggressive and sanctimonious by repeatedly making loud comments like that, aimed for OP to hear? yes.
Could NDN just pop round and politely mention to OP instead or put a potted bush up in between ? yes

Road fumes can't be helped. Some selfish fucker sparking up all the time can.

And I'm not sure what you don't understand about the CDC clearly stating that even BRIEF exposure triggers cancer forming activity.

@Prequelle 🙄🙄

I'm uninterested in dialogue with anyone with this level of lack of perspective.
I fully understand research, it used to be my job. And you are over extrapolating from it. A niave mistake. But I'm sure you'll go on about it for a while yet, becoming more and more exagorated.

Anyway, enjoy...

Road fumes can't be helped. Some selfish fucker sparking up all the time can.

Road fumes could be helped - some selfish fucker driving to the corner shop / other journeys that could be walked / not using public transport where accessible to them and available, just as a start.

I’ve been harmed by drunk people physically and mentally on many occasions, but I don’t advocate for a complete ban of alcohol.

Smoking 10 cigarettes a day in your own bloody garden is not “some selfish fucker sparking up all the time”.

My neighbours can be selfish fuckers - bonfires right by the house when I’ve got washing out, loud music playing outside all day when it’s sunny. Know what I say to them? Bugger all, because it’s their bloody garden.

Then save your patronising dribble if you're that uninterested. I'm sorry the CDC don't agree with your assessment of their research, you clearly know better. Maybe you should tell them how naive they are oh wise one.

YANBU because it’s your garden and your right to smoke (plus it’s a legal habit so not as if you’re blowing cannabis or crack into their gardens).

HOWEVER, as a non smoker with young children I can also fully sympathise with your neighbours. I have been in the same situation before where I’ve felt more comfortable leaving my garden just to escape the stench and it’s shit because you also want to enjoy your own garden.

I'm so relieved I can ignore these now a random mumsnetter has said it's wrong.

@Prequelle Oh come on! 🤣 If there was any truth to that propaganda you've just posted then cigarettes would be banned and classed as a Class A drug!!!! Use of them would be a serious, serious crime!

I guess the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention are wrong then. Happy days

www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/secondhand_smoke/health_effects/index.htm

Smoke or don't smoke but please stop whingeing about your rights

Smoke or don't smoke but please stop whingeing about your rights

Quite the ironic statement on this thread 🙄

Smokers whining about the right to smoke is tedious

This thread is nuts. I'm not a smoker and I do have breathing problems, and find any kind of smoke to be a severe migraine trigger.

But a single person's cigarette in the fresh air dissipates in moments. Tobacco smoke is highly addictive, and my momentary discomfort is nothing to what a smoker feels during withdrawal.

I think it's just considered acceptable to vilify smokers currently, in the same way as people bash overweight people and benefit recipients.

@Prequelle
Then save your patronising dribble
Said by the patronising PP ... Read your own posts and phrasing.

And it's a generalised snippet you've attached, not even an abstract. Without knowing details of any of the research it is based upon, (which will be very relevant!) And you are still over extrapolating.

You're proving my point for me.

There are other PPs that made their points very well without over egging.

You are free to follow the link I have provided and critic the evidence provided by a world renowned disease prevention institution.

I thought I wasn't worth replying to anyway :)

My ndn smokes in their garden. The smell wafts into our back bedroom and that room always smells musty when we leave it open in summer

Yes YABVU. I really doubt they are coming outside especially to make PA comments. More like they are already out there and get your smoke wafting into their faces.

Our previous NDN liked to smoke in her garden, right up against the adjoining fence so that it went straight up into our bedroom window. She could have sat anywhere else in the garden, but no it was her right to sit right there. You are coming across as just as big a twat as she was.

Could you go outside your front door rather than into your back garden?

I get pissed at my neighbours smoking weed because it smells vile (much worse than regular fags) and the smell comes into my house if I have windows and doors open, but I can’t say anything to them, it is their garden.

You're entitled to smoke in your own garden, but you can't expect other people to be happy about you stinking out theirs. I bloody hate my neighbours smoking in their garden. It means I have to keep bringing my kids indoors and shut the playroom up every time they light up. They smoke a lot. I don't complain because it's their own garden, but I can't help feeling it's selfish of them to inhibit the use of other people's gardens because of their nasty habits.
We've also had to block off all of the vents in our house, as they smoke so heavily it comes in through to our house and stinks the place out. It also means I can't open any windows at the back of the house during the day, including our bathroom, which makes managing the damp issues tricky. It pisses me off something awful, but nothing I can do. They're entitled to smoke on their own property just as much as I'm entitled to resent the smoke coming into/onto mine.

Could you not get one of those vaping devices? They don't smell as much so shouldn't be so disturbing. Plus you could always make a grand announcement that you have done so, and, there by counteract their (fully justified, IMO) passive aggression with an equal dollop of your own. Then everyone can be happy, or at least, equally pissed off

Its your garden, if they don't like it, tell them to get a fan to blow the smoke back your way!
Or give up smoking, it does stink. I gave up three years ago and now I realise how horrible I smelled and how much money I wasted!