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To say mums of girls are smug

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TheMidiMitch · 18/04/2019 21:28

Just been at a party where my son along with the other boys have been repeatedly told off for fighting (quite rightly so and largely by me). Whilst the girls are busy braiding hair and pretending to make cupcakes, the boys are looking like Lord of the Flies. Not meant to be a goady post but please let me know there's light at the end of this tunnel...anyone...

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MarthasGinYard · 18/04/2019 23:55

'Not saying mums of girls are smug actually just I'm a bit jealous...'

My friend who has four boys openly admits this.

I get where she's coming from. My Dd is a Tom boy but how she copes with the mayhem....she needs a bloody medal.

Babuchak · 18/04/2019 23:56

Fazackerley

And yet you are quick to point out that your own dd doesn't fit stereotypes.
actually, as I wrote, she completely fit the stereotypes and was a surprising girly girl from very young! I have stereotypical children, and they are happy. We must be terrible parents.

MarthasGinYard · 18/04/2019 23:57

'It's always girls getting a kicking. Boys are awesome. Fun, affectionate, straightforward and lovely. Girls, total fuckers. Who would have one? Amirite?'

Agree

LittleChristmasMouse · 18/04/2019 23:58

he's a boy and we dont like boys.

The headmistress at local girls secondary school said this at an open evening for prospective students. I still can't believe that she thought it ok to say in public.

Babuchak · 19/04/2019 00:02

It's always girls getting a kicking. Boys are awesome
Interesting interpretation on a thread from an exhausted mum whose boys are driving her crazy and posters acknowledging that it's easier with little girls (then it turns, then it turns again Grin )

SylvanianFrenemies · 19/04/2019 00:02

I have 2 girls. They are very different from each other in nature and interests. They both just like "stuff". Not girl stuff or not stuff, just stuff. The older one linked Pokemon, maths, long hair, cuddly toys. She's very kind and caring. The younger one likes ballet, fire engines, tractors and babies. She is a determined little tank, who never sits down if she could be standing, running or climbing on something dangerous. She likes spitting and rubbing said spit into whatever nice fabric is to hand. Pretty sure neither are anything other than normal.

Being a parent has its ups and downs, good days and bad. No need to make up artificial reasons. Just hope for a better day tomorrow!

MenuPlant · 19/04/2019 00:03

Who is choosing 'pamper parties' for little girls?

IME it is the mums.

Children like to please their parents. Some parents are very entrenched in gender stereotypes.

I know families where the dads more or less ignore the female children, and sex divisions are present with everything.

Those dads are right though, girls are such bitches, so lacking in affection. The poor mums are left with them, nightmare. Shame they can't bin them off somehow eh, like the dads have managed to do.

On the other side we have daddies little princess! Which is odd tbh.

Today in the shoe shop I saw a tiny girl, pre walking, crying as she was put into lots of different pairs of shoes. Don't cry, these ones make you look like a princess!

Fuck that.
I've not seen male children subjected to that. Because they're boisterous and wouldn't stand for it?
She was crying and wriggling like mad poor little thing.

See this sort of thing all the time.

Babuchak · 19/04/2019 00:04

The headmistress at local girls secondary school said this at an open evening for prospective students. I still can't believe that she thought it ok to say in public.

I bet she is on MN Grin

stayathomer · 19/04/2019 00:05

'Not saying mums of girls are smug actually just I'm a bit jealous...'

You're not jealous really though are you? My guys are hard work but they're my little men as are yours. People with girls have their little women and they'd never trade them either!

NewAccount270219 · 19/04/2019 00:05

It's always girls getting a kicking. Boys are awesome. Fun, affectionate, straightforward and lovely. Girls, total fuckers. Who would have one? Amirite?

The thing is - and I say this as the mother of an amazing baby boy, who is absolutely certain she'd have found him equally amazing if he'd been a girl - there's definitely some protesting too much here. Look at the gender disappointment threads in pregnancy - they are always women who want girls (I have literally seen one where the woman wanted a boy and hundreds where she wanted a girl). There's all this bluster from mothers of boys about how much better they are, but I'm really not convinced that's most women's actual preferences.

Either way, the whole thread is a depressing mess.

MetroFly · 19/04/2019 00:06

Interesting interpretation on a thread from an exhausted mum whose boys are driving her crazy and posters acknowledging that it's easier with little girls (then it turns, then it turns again

But there is some delight in slagging off females, words like bitchy, witch, manipulative etc.

shitpark · 19/04/2019 00:07

My 12 year old ds is trustworthy, kind, considerate, caring and has great friendships. A few years ago, he was a whirling angry boy. My dd is still at that lovely preteen age, just a few sulks here and there, but lovely. Dreading teenage years must admit.

MenuPlant · 19/04/2019 00:09

New account women want girls as mini me and imagine dressing them up like dollies going shopping Spa weekends etc

That's usually the thing

They forget that lots of girls /women aren't into those things at all

(although according to this thread they are, and bitchy to boot).

NewAccount270219 · 19/04/2019 00:11

I've not seen male children subjected to that. Because they're boisterous and wouldn't stand for it?
She was crying and wriggling like mad poor little thing.

Since having a baby I've suddenly noticed - and been shocked by - how many people put tiny girls in restrictive clothing. Today an acquaintance told me that the fact my DS crawls and her (slightly older) DD doesn't is because 'he's a typical boy, always on the move'. I had to bite my tongue rather than point out that her DD literally couldn't crawl in the dress she had put her in.

The other horrible thing I now see everywhere is how young people start telling baby boys not to cry and to be 'a brave/big boy'. It's so bizarre seeing people say that to a baby who literally cannot yet support their own head but they do, a lot.

Mumsymumphy · 19/04/2019 00:13

My eldest daughter is now 26 and I can hand-on-heart say she never gave me a single day's trouble when she was growing up. My son is 12, has never been boisterous and is now entering the zombiefied making Youtube videos of boring Japenese computer games stage. My youngster daughter is 8 and a diva, albeit a funny and loving one. I don't know how her teenage years will pan out, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
I'm smug because I've raised my children pretty much by myself and they're all well behaved and are an absolute joy!

MenuPlant · 19/04/2019 00:14

New account I noticed that in my post natal group! The girls were all in pretty dresses and when they crawled they kind of crawled inside the dress and couldn't go anywhere!

What were their parents thinking? Why didn't they notice and chose more practical clothing?

It was literally all of them. I pointed it out to DH and he was like wtf wow.

Fazackerley · 19/04/2019 00:16

Why would you put a dress on your crawling baby??

Babuchak · 19/04/2019 00:18

what's actually depressing is that all the gender neutral advocate seem to think that girls and women are weak, victims and pretty useless, and that the only way to move forward is to be like a boy.

It's the completely outdated and shocking idea that a girl cannot be girly and as successful as her brother that I find equally infuriating and cringing, and completely untrue.

NewAccount270219 · 19/04/2019 00:19

menu as well as the dresses a lot (though not all - I do know plenty of little girls who live in leggings, thank god) of the parents I know also put little girls in shoes long before they can actually walk - and at that point they also restrict them moving because they drag on the floor, etc. I very rarely see people do this with boys, I think because their shoes aren't considered as 'cute'.

Guyliner · 19/04/2019 00:19

my dd had a shit in the garden yesterdayGrin

My kids were not given the memo that boys should act like heathens and girls should spend the day braiding hair. I don't think most children are given that memo actually. It's all bullshit.

Hth

NewAccount270219 · 19/04/2019 00:20

Why would you put a dress on your crawling baby??

I have no idea but I promise you that people do!

Guyliner · 19/04/2019 00:23

I have actually seen parents tell their daughters not to use the play equipment at the park so as not to ruin their pretty dress. I mean why take the child to a fucking park if they aren't allowed to play. It's cruel.

BeeHaving · 19/04/2019 00:24

My son walked at 9 months and I got the head tilt from girls of mums and the "I feel so sorry for you, you are always on the move" at toddler parties - now at 12 years old with a fantastic, well-mannered son, I'm the smug one, the girls are a nightmare!!

NewAccount270219 · 19/04/2019 00:24

Tbf (opens huge can of worms, will get flamed) in my experience it's very influenced by class. When I go to expensive baby classes the little girls are dressed in practical, fairly neutral clothing. When (like today) I go to softplay in my fairly deprived bit of the city they're all wearing pink and flouncy dresses.

DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 19/04/2019 00:25

I have four boys. Sometimes they exhaust me, but equally often I could burst with pride because they are such genuinely lovely people. Children are exhausting, children can be badly behaved and children will sometimes drive you round the twist! That isn't unique to either sex.

I know instinctively (so I must be right, obviously!) that, had my daughter lived, she would have been utterly fabulous. But I know that in part because her brothers did live and they are utterly fabulous too.

I think it's a shame that a lot of parents are so competitive, even down to having to have the "best" sex (by which I mean the sex of the baby, not the best sex at conception!). There is no "best".

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