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To think that the Brexit Party is the most exciting thing to happen in British politics in years

258 replies

ChavvyOldBrexiteer · 12/04/2019 21:02

1000 candidates have applied for 73 seats, nearly a million pounds raised with small donations, buzz and brexitement on the ether and the sense that the 2 party system may be over for good....at last some good news for Brexiteers.

Viva la Revolucion!

OP posts:
venusandmars · 12/04/2019 23:09

I'm most annoyed by the amount of coverage it gets on bbc. Top item every bloody news bulletin. I've had to switch my radio off.

Did the BBC not learn from last time?

It is NOT impartial reporting to give Nigel Farage equal coverage.

RavenousBabyButterfly · 12/04/2019 23:13

Actually I think politics has been far too exciting over the last few years, I've had enough, I want to go back to boring politics before I'd ever heard the word Brexit.

Indeed I fear we have the misfortune to be living in Interesting Times.

RavenousBabyButterfly · 12/04/2019 23:14

OP did you mean Viva la revolución (Spanish), or Vive la révolution (French)?

Either way, it does seem an ironic choice of phrase.

Krimpy · 12/04/2019 23:24

Yes, if you are a BNP supporter (wouid have hard 12 seats in 2015) - Farage too much of a safety wet lefty for you, krimpy ?

Some people are so frightened of PR. They always do the 'buuuuut that would mean lots of BNP and UKIP MPs' . Frankly if that's who people have voted for then so be it. Drag the BNP and UKIP into the light, let their representatives be properly scrutinised. I mean look where this toing and froing between Labour and Conservative has brought us. The last three years have really exposed the flaws in the current political set-up.

Tolleshunt · 12/04/2019 23:41

TalkinPaece, as I said, it's a 'soon to be' party.

They've already applied to become a party. No reason to suggest they won't be able to do so.

Itinerary · 13/04/2019 01:34

If either of the main parties had implemented Brexit instead of delaying and capitulating we'd have left by now, and there would be no vacancy for Brexit-based new parties to step in.

Itinerary · 13/04/2019 01:45

It is NOT impartial reporting to give Nigel Farage equal coverage

It is also not impartial to keep putting Farage on TV instead of other Brexiteers. Brexit-supporting experts, businesspeople and mainstream politicians could be chosen instead. It's as if certain channels want to paint all pro-Leave people as a Farage-like stereotype, instead of recognising most Leave voters did not vote UKIP. Farage was not an MP and was not involved with the official Leave campaign. Giving him so much airtime is deliberate and lazy.

Itinerary · 13/04/2019 01:58

isn’t ultimately based on perceptions of immigration ...............

What about preferring to live in a country which collaborates and is friendly to others around the world, but just doesn't think total political unity is necessary? I don't want to live in a country called Europa, or find every aspect of our lives is centralised instead of local and accountable. The EU's aim of forming a superstate isn't compatible with independence of thought and decision-making. Can we not be good friends with our neighbours without all moving in to a commune together?

ContinuityError · 13/04/2019 03:42

I am a Leaver but would never have voted for UKIP because of the racism.

Brexit Party founder Catherine Blaiklock forced to resign for islamophobic Tweets and treasurer Michael McGough sacked for antisemitic and islamophobic social media comments?

No, no racism to see here folks ...

catx1606 · 13/04/2019 06:17

I'm most annoyed by the amount of coverage it gets on bbc. Top item every bloody news bulletin. I've had to switch my radio off.

Did the BBC not learn from last time?

It is NOT impartial reporting to give Nigel Farage equal coverage

Why not give him coverage? He's for the leave side, the news should be reporting for both sides not just remain. The only reason you don't want him on the news because he's not for the side you voted for

Alsohuman · 13/04/2019 06:23

I’m a devout remainer and even I can see that the launch of a new political party justifies the top spot on the day’s news.

ForalltheSaints · 13/04/2019 06:38

The Nigel Farage party formation is justified as a news story, but it is not a piece of good news. The two party system for national elections will largely remain because we have first past the post (and rejected an alternative in a referendum). All the Brexit party will do is be a pressure group and change the focus of the European elections should we have them (I expect we will). They will not lead to Parliament agreeing the form of Brexit or a second referendum any quicker.

Alsohuman · 13/04/2019 06:41

EU elections aren’t first past the post. The EU elections will be a massive indicator of the public mood around Brexit.

Bouncebacker · 13/04/2019 06:59

Itinerary - that’s a wonderful reason to want Brexit (I’m not being sarcastic) it really is - I want the same things that you want. But I voted remain because I didn’t / don’t think we have enough people in power who also belive in friendship, connection, sharing resources, using our experience to support the advance of others (and vice versa - listening to the experience of others) - or the skills, power to negotiate. I didn’t belive that is the kind of Brexit we would get, so I chose the EU, as the principle of its existence- suppprting other countries to develop, funding infrastructure projects where no company could make a profit, allowing people to make choices about where they live and work, thinking of the bigger picture rather than an arbitrary division of states, power to protect consumers and workers through legislation enforceable by trade, talking rather than fighting.... these all fit with my personal values

SaskiaRembrandt · 13/04/2019 07:12

Interesting that Nigel Farage has set up a separate Brexit party I thought that is what UKIP were for. Won't this just split their vote?

meditrina · 13/04/2019 07:37

It might completely trash the UKIP vote, but that doesn't matter Because everyone will count the total number of votes fot clearly 'leave' parties, and use that figure as the measure of ballot-box support.

Tories and Labour are both officially leave too (but actually split) they probably won't 'count' IYSWIM, and so it'll be swing to clearly remain parties that wouid counter this. And I'm not sure that either LibDem or Green would make it. And of course it's a bit harder for Remain, as they need to actually have a manifesto if what they'd do with any seats. A rightwing Remainer might prefer to vote for a party which promises to align with a rightwing bloc rather than a clear Remain party (if it remains the case that the clearly Remain parties tha people have heard of are left leaning.

I think the popularity of Farage, away from the London centric chattering classes, is often overlooked.

TrojanWhore · 13/04/2019 07:39

If UKIP/Brexit combined vote remains high (UKIP was top in last Euro poll), everyone can give up on a second referendum (whether dressed up as people's vote or named plainly)

bellinisurge · 13/04/2019 07:41

Huzzah! And we can all just jolly well get over it.Hmm

bellinisurge · 13/04/2019 07:42

I hope people don't confuse UKIP and www.thebrexitparty.com

RuffleCrow · 13/04/2019 07:43

Why have 1000 candidates applied for 73 seats?! Seems like very poor organisation to me. Normally parties work with candidates through informal and formal selection processes to whittle it down beforehand. That way they can be more or less certain of the suitability of all candidates beforehand to avoid major embarassments. Confused doesn't bode well.

Homefireburn1ng · 13/04/2019 07:45

The main parties are delaying and capitulating because leavers lies and didn’t agree on how they’d leave before the ref leaving hoc to pick up the pieces and complete an impossible job. I’m presuming the Brexit party have actually worked out how to leave this time and are basing it on honesty and not lies.Hmm

Poloshot · 13/04/2019 07:49

Well this thread has certainly attracted all the luvvies 😆

TrojanWhore · 13/04/2019 07:53

Of course the Brexit party haven't worked out how to leave becayse that's not their job

So far they are standing only as MEP.

It is the Westminster Parliament who are responsible for getting us out - in line with the people's vote that has already happened, and their own manifestos. It's the MPs, not the MEPs who are failing to deliver

Homefireburn1ng · 13/04/2019 07:54

Why Trohan? Hardly anybody bothers voting for European elections. Farage £ co will want to make a point so will vote. Also remainers will be spread all over the shop. Confused

Homefireburn1ng · 13/04/2019 07:57

But you can’t demand to leave without agreeing how as we are seeing.Leavers are causing most of the issues not remainers. TM plan, hard or soft if they agreed it would be through by now. It was all done back to front and a shiny new party won’t help. Will have the same problem.