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Anon. members - Forums open to court action??

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justasking111 · 10/04/2019 13:47

Was quite shocked to see this. Will this be a test case? Mumsnet is such a tame well run site compared to the comments I see in the online press. Is the writing on the wall for free (cough) speech or is it a culling of trolling. Personally I think that something needs to be done, some folk have no filter or are just plain nasty.

news.yahoo.com/transgender-activist-wins-court-ruling-forcing-parenting-website-reveal-identity-alleged-online-abuser-121317596.html

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TalkinPaece · 14/04/2019 10:31

This case is not really about gender
its about changing name to deny previous misdeeds

Women do not wipe their criminal records when they change name on marriage.
Why should this person get to wipe their criminal record just because they have changed their name (but not their body) ?

LimeKiwi · 14/04/2019 10:45

You won't because there's a cake to ice or cat litter tray to sort out

Confused Eh?

sackrifice · 14/04/2019 10:45

Eh?

Can you answer why you think the rapist Karen White is a woman?

LimeKiwi · 14/04/2019 10:49

My eh? Was in regards to the clearing out cat trays or icing a cake bit

sackrifice · 14/04/2019 10:51

Was in regards to the clearing out cat trays or icing a cake bit

I know.

But can you answer the actual question or not?

sackrifice · 14/04/2019 10:51

It's fine if it is a 'no, I can't'.

Because I can't either.

LimeKiwi · 14/04/2019 10:54

Ah, so you know really that it's more than likely a dig at someone who has a differing view. Cats and cake for people who think they're real ladies or something? Sorry but I don't have a cat and I haven't baked a cake for ages.
But would rather not acknowledge the dig as it just confirms what people on the thread are saying - it always descends the same way

sackrifice · 14/04/2019 10:56

I am happy to take the lack of response by all the people stating they accept transwomen as women, as 'No, clearly he is a man and I cannot explain it'.

As it so evidently is a man, and you evidently cannot explain why you think he might be a woman. I do too. I understand you are just trying to be nice.

But this isn't about being nice.

And it is about the ability to say 'that is a man' that this thread is about.

Anyone who can get a court order to get your details if you say 'That man is a man and I know because of x, y and z' in order to doxx you or publicly call you out or get you fired, is what this thread is about.

sackrifice · 14/04/2019 10:58

But would rather not acknowledge the dig as it just confirms what people on the thread are saying - it always descends the same way

No it ends with people who say they think men can be women who are unable to explain why, saying they have to 'go ice a cake now' or as in the case on this thread 'go read the cat litter section'.

Honestly, if you have no answer just admit it.

It is utterly pathetic. People have been asking on here for 2 years now and not once has anyone explained it.

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sackrifice · 14/04/2019 11:04

'Hey, I'm a Turkey and I am voting for Christmas. I feel sorry for the farmer, he's had a tough time what with Brexit, and his blade getting blunt after last year but now that's all sorted, lets all be nice to him and line up here in this nice line and - hang on - what's that glistening in the sun - why is your hand around my neck - what the fuc...'

Hearhere · 14/04/2019 11:05

We need new words, we need adult human female and adult human male, new words for those categories...

LimeKiwi · 14/04/2019 11:07

Except I didn't say anything about cats or cakes, but you still linked that comment at me

Hearhere · 14/04/2019 11:07

Or maybe sapiensfemale and sapiensmale something like that?

LimeKiwi · 14/04/2019 11:09

Ooookay at the turkey bit Grin
Da Fuq indeed lol

sackrifice · 14/04/2019 11:12

Except I didn't say anything about cats or cakes, but you still linked that comment at me

I'll take that as a 'no, I can't answer, I will just talk about other things until I can escape and do something else that isn't cat or cake related, perhaps crochet'.

LimeKiwi · 14/04/2019 11:14

Sorry to disappoint but I don't crochet either.

sackrifice · 14/04/2019 11:14

Right on cue.

LimeKiwi · 14/04/2019 11:15

Actually not a clue what you're talking about now, sorry.

SmileEachDay · 14/04/2019 11:16

Lime

I get it. It goes against the liberal feminist inclination to defend minorities. Women have traditionally been on the side of the “persecuted minority”. We did it with LGB rights. We stand against racism.

Women - feminist women especially- understand what it’s like to be oppressed and discriminated against. It happens to us every day, in tiny and enormous ways.

It’s worth asking why a sizeable number of these women - who have defended the rights of others alongside their own- have identified this situation as different.

Why we see it as something other than a persecuted minority.

Why do you think that is?

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 14/04/2019 11:17

The cake reference comes from another thread where after many posts insisting that TWAW but failing to produce any definition of woman that includes TW the poster announced they were off because they had a cake to ice.

Much like the cat litter reference upthread.

cuppycakey · 14/04/2019 11:20

I have been shocked at how transphobic MN has become.

SmileEachDay · 14/04/2019 11:21

cuppy

Can I ask your thoughts on my post up there ^

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 14/04/2019 11:28

They won’t - they never do. It’s not good enough to say it without backing it up. Wouldn’t stand up on a court of law.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 14/04/2019 11:28

There has already been a case where the lawyer for a TW argued that one offence be struck/concealed from their client's record because it was an offence that could only be committed by a man. The lawyer argued that keeping that conviction on their client's record meant said client's identity as a TW was under threat. Or something along those lines. As I recall the case was in Ireland, so a different jurisdiction.

It would be deeply problematic if obtaining a GRC means you could conceal past convictions, maybe including ones for violence, on the basis that referring to them is deadnaming or transphobic.