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[justasking111]

Was quite shocked to see this. Will this be a test case? Mumsnet is such a tame well run site compared to the comments I see in the online press. Is the writing on the wall for free (cough) speech or is it a culling of trolling. Personally I think that something needs to be done, some folk have no filter or are just plain nasty.

news.yahoo.com/transgender-activist-wins-court-ruling-forcing-parenting-website-reveal-identity-alleged-online-abuser-121317596.html

Just for clarification, I have never mentioned LM or IW, anywhere on this thread. As you're asking, I have no problem at all accepting them as transwomen.

So what is it that makes you accept Lily Madigan as a woman, but not Karen White?

Is your criteria for womanhood 'any male who says they are female and who hasn't sexually assaulted someone'?

You say that you don't agree with self id but accept Lily Madigan as a transwoman? On what basis then?

I think that LimeKiwi is actually totally gender critical and is trolling to show how futile the arguement that TWAW is.

@LimeKiwi

How about Michelle Lewin, 51, a transgender paedophile born [I redacted as although in the report, I don't want to get a letter form SH]

Lewin’s Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC) means she [I don't want to misgender and get deleted] does not appear in prison statistics as transgender and therefore is not one of the 139 inmates recorded by authorities this year. (2018)

Lewin has been moved to a women’s prison despite a history of grooming underage girls.

So, GRC - legally a women, and you'd agree right?

So, GRC - legally a women, and you'd agree right?

That's pretty much what Lime was saying.

Ooo what dressing?

Yum. Avocado.

Love avocado if we're sharing.

I'll make you your very own if you can answer my question Lime, or at least offer an opinion.

I can attach a picture of Lewin if it help?

Well, as it happens - the radish, lettuce, spinach and spring onion were picked from my allotment this morning.

Along with the avocado, I am popping a coriander, lemon, mint and chilli dressing on, as that is left over from the Dosas this weekend.

And using up the dosa batter with an onion and coriander dosa fry up for the salad to sit alongside.

Now, have we got an answer yet?

Love the sound of the coriander dressing sackrifice, might have to try that

Love the sound of the coriander dressing sackrifice, might have to try that

Answer the question and I'll give you the recipe with the secret ingredient.

Mmm sounds lush! sackrifice

However I do not think we'll get any help from Lime although I will bookmark this convo to dust off the next time I'm on a thread and Lime says "but I answered the question about what a woman is aaaages ago, and so many times. And you just don't listen and go on about biology"

"but I answered the question about what a woman is aaaages ago, and so many times

Nope, never specifically said I had, said others on other threads have. Repeatedly. What would be the point in dusting off this one when no-one has given you an answer because you don't really want one apart from woman equals biology?
The predictable recipe swapping is out in play, it's script like it is utterly bizarre.
As I said, for the lurkers. Can decide what they want.
Accept transwomen or not. I don't care. You do you. I for one accept them and others have said they do too.

What would be the point in dusting off this one when no-one has given you an answer because you don't really want one apart from woman equals biology?

Because you are the one insisting that woman equals something other than biology.

I for one accept them and others have said they do too.

No you don't - you accept some. Not all. You just have no idea which ones.

Is it if they've got long hair?

Lime

Love the sound of the coriander dressing sackrifice, might have to try that

Also Lime

The predictable recipe swapping is out in play, it's script like it is utterly bizarre

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True though.

Pressed too soon - meant true though as that is exactly how it goes. Every time.

The predictable recipe swapping is out in play, it's script like it is utterly bizarre.

Not that bizarre, we got to do something whilst we hang around waiting for a definition/explanation of why would you in any way think that a man saying words automatically means he is safe to be in a refuge with females that are vulnerable.

It is quite frankly the least we can do, share recipes with those lurkers that also might be hungry.

Is it if they've got long hair?

Being a woman has nothing to do with having long hair. Plenty of women have short hair.

So if self ID does come in, and I get a new birth certificate (with my new name and my sex marker changed), and other supporting docs, then for legal purposes I'd have changed my sex, and unless I volunteered this information, how would you know of any previous aliases as my paper history would be complete for my 'new' life, surely?

Correct, you wouldn't know. Some agencies keep records such as the police, DWP and HMRC but the files are only viewable by certain staff with special clearance.

(Does the above affect NI numbers too?)

This is from the general guidance:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/gender-recognition-certificates-t455

You should note that when HMRC are informed you are successful in obtaining a full GRC, they will update your record with any changes to personal details e.g. change of name and then they will restrict your record for specialist staff only to access; this is to comply with extra privacy requirements stipulated in the Gender Recognition Act 2004.

Not that bizarre, we got to do something whilst we hang around waiting for a definition/explanation

As I said, you've been on other threads where people have engaged properly even after lots of wheedling and pleases so I'm not sure why you're pretending otherwise?