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justasking111 · 10/04/2019 13:47

Was quite shocked to see this. Will this be a test case? Mumsnet is such a tame well run site compared to the comments I see in the online press. Is the writing on the wall for free (cough) speech or is it a culling of trolling. Personally I think that something needs to be done, some folk have no filter or are just plain nasty.

news.yahoo.com/transgender-activist-wins-court-ruling-forcing-parenting-website-reveal-identity-alleged-online-abuser-121317596.html

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SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 13:39

Good idea.

Could you PM me Lime?

LimeKiwi · 15/04/2019 13:42

Can't remember who it was, could have been sleepingsloth who said earlier on in the thread that as a woman they're glad that they're not all tarred with the same brush as other women who do atrocious crimes.
I agreed with that bit too

SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 13:45

Lime?

I also promise I won’t share your response with anyone on this thread. But I will confirm when you have PMd me.

sackrifice · 15/04/2019 13:45

Can't remember who it was, could have been sleepingsloth who said earlier on in the thread that as a woman they're glad that they're not all tarred with the same brush as other women who do atrocious crimes.
I agreed with that bit too

What a bizarre response. We still RISK ASSESS for these things though don't we? We never assume no women will commit crimes. It's not like women are never followed in shops, or women teachers are not DBS checked.

Do you know a single thing about Safeguarding?

sackrifice · 15/04/2019 13:46

Smile, if you say that you have had the explanation, and are happy with it, I promise I will never ever ask the question again.

LimeKiwi · 15/04/2019 13:49

and are happy with it, I promise I will never ever ask the question again

Your "and are happy with it" bit's telling - it'd be a case of nobody being happy with it, then til the next thread the question gets asked again as "sorry, wasn't a proper answer so I can ask it again" lol

SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 13:50
sackrifice · 15/04/2019 13:52

Your "and are happy with it" bit's telling - it'd be a case of nobody being happy with it, then til the next thread the question gets asked again as "sorry, wasn't a proper answer so I can ask it again" lol

Of course it is telling, I am not a mind reader!

What else can I do if you refuse to give any reasoning behind your thinking?

You could of course just explain why Karen White isn't 'trans' but any other man who says he is, is. That would be the simplest way of getting me to stop asking.

LimeKiwi · 15/04/2019 13:55

I don't get what part of I'm not getting suckered in you're not understanding, as I said maybe someone else will.
Have you ever wondered why nobody else does?

SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 13:57

Have you ever wondered why nobody else does?

I thought you said lots of people had?

I’m assuming you aren’t going to PM me? Shame because I really do think the only way of resolving this whole shitshow is be people talking and sharing and moving incrementally closer. 🤷🏻‍♀️

LimeKiwi · 15/04/2019 13:58

I thought you said lots of people had?

I also said that it's never the right answer and it's only ever biology

sackrifice · 15/04/2019 13:59

Have you ever wondered why nobody else does?

What explain why they think TWAW?

Because there is no explanation.

None, nada, zero, nothing.

Just white noise and flouncing that we are all meanies.

I'd love there to be just one person that explains their reasoning without flouncing, derailing, merailing, accusing us of being meanies; something that explains what it is that makes these men be 'accepted' as women.

SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 14:00

I also said that it's never the right answer and it's only ever biology

You did.

It’s ok Lime I get that you don’t have an answer and you probably feel a bit cornered. Go well. 🙏🏻

sackrifice · 15/04/2019 14:00

I also said that it's never the right answer and it's only ever biology

If you have an answer why are you not steadfast, and proud of it?

Why are you not shouting it from the rooftops?

LimeKiwi · 15/04/2019 14:02

and you probably feel a bit cornered

Not really, no

Absolutepowercorrupts · 15/04/2019 14:02

Lime Kiwi
As a lurker, you know, one of the ones you're posting for.
It's completely and utterly obvious to me that you don't have an explanation as to why you'll accept TWAW except for Karen White.
There is no answer.

sackrifice · 15/04/2019 14:04

Absolute Flowers

LimeKiwi · 15/04/2019 14:06

As I said, then, absolute, you know whether you're comfortable accepting transwomen or not

SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 14:08

As I said, then, absolute, you know whether you're comfortable accepting transwomen or not

For the lurkers: this is disingenuous bullshit.

sackrifice · 15/04/2019 14:10

As I said, then, absolute, you know whether you're comfortable accepting transwomen or not

Is that transwomen including, or not including violent rapists?

In the mainstream male prison estate, the percentage of men convicted of sexual crimes stands as IIRC 18%.

With transwomen, that increases to over 50%.

But not to worry, Lime says TWAW so all is fine. All these transwomen in women's prisons, no threat at all. Nothing to see here.

LimeKiwi · 15/04/2019 14:11

For the lurkers: this is disingenuous bullshit.

Didn't mean it to come across as disigenous - just that I'm saying I accept transwomen and I'm not getting into "define woman" define transwoman argument, maybe someone else will.

sackrifice · 15/04/2019 14:12

just that I'm saying I accept transwomen

Not all Transwomen remember. You need to clarify which ones you mean when you make blanket statements.

LimeKiwi · 15/04/2019 14:13

I said I didn't agree with just self ID'ing, if that's what you mean?

SmileEachDay · 15/04/2019 14:15

Didn't mean it to come across as disigenous - just that I'm saying I accept transwomen and I'm not getting into "define woman" define transwoman argument, maybe someone else will

Like I said, disingenuous bullshit. You refuse to engage in anything like meaningful discussion and then say “I accept TW” when it is clear you’ve not applied a critical eye to any of it.

Disingenuous: not candid or sincere

Fiveredbricks · 15/04/2019 14:15

So... When a man calls me a man online, I can petition for his information to be able to prosecute? Even though I am an adult female woman, and was born female. Or does this just go the other way?