Believe what a medium has said?

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Has anyone had a reading from a psychic medium (or like) and had something exactly came true? Not something vague but something specific almost word for word?

There are police forces in America that have used/use them with remarkable results.

Let me correct that for you. There are psychics in America that say police forces have used/use them with remarkable results. But when you investigate this claim, it turns out to be completely made up tripe.

What is true is that psychics waste a lot of police force time phoning up giving details of the crime. If by luck, one of the thousands that call manages to guess correctly, and the killer really was a bald guy with a red car, when the crime is solved, they run to the press saying "they never would have solved it without my special powers".

There are police forces in America that have used/use them with remarkable results

I wondered about this myself, so spent some time having a look. I can find plenty of posts by "psychics" claiming to have helped, but nothing concrete to suggest they actually have

Unless I've missed something ... ?

And if a psychic offers some “evidence” to the police they have to take it seriously and investigate in case the “psychic” is actually someone who knows something important from other sources.

You're right, Bertrand - I hadn't thought of it that way

Trouble is, that "having to investigate it" could well be seen as encouragement and lead to an awful lot of police time being wasted

For the last 3 years I've been getting junk emails from a "psychic", constantly warning me I will live an unhappy life and my depression will hold me back unless I buy his readings so he can tell me how to make the best of myself and my life. Every few weeks these come into my inbox and "so sad to see you have ignored my offer, I can help you change your life for the better, here's a reduced price". He often includes the name of a loved one I am estranged from, and says "I am very connected to your energy and can sense you very much miss X". How he knows that and that person's name I don't know, but if he is genuinely psychic he would know he's wasting his time as I am not going to respond and buy any of his readings!

If psychics are real, how come we haven't found every missing child out there and solved every murder?

Also, why aren't there hundreds of lottery winners each week?

They are master manipulators and prey on people that need to be told that things are going to get better.

The College of Policing guidelines on missing persons investigations actually said this:

"High-profile missing person investigations nearly always attract the interest of psychics and others, such as witches and clairvoyants, stating that they possess extrasensory perception.

"Any information received from psychics should be evaluated in the context of the case, and should never become a distraction to the overall investigation and search strategy unless it can be verified.

"These contacts usually come from well-intentioned people, but the motive of the individual should always be ascertained, especially where financial gain is included.

Their guidelines also say that investigating officer needs to ask how the person got the information, and any "accredited successes", specifying that this meant "previous cases where they have given police information that turns out to be correct." (And that there are none in their records.)

www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/major-investigation-and-public-protection/missing-persons/

The Missing People charity said that while they understand that families will want to try any method of getting news of a missing person:

Research based on interviews with the families of missing people conducted by the charity shows that no interviewees reported significant findings or comfort from the experience of consulting psychics or mediums.

However, if you even look at the top results in Google, you can see how it was misreported as somehow legitimising psychics.

How cruel and awful, LHMB. Are you assuming that either the estranged family member or someone connected with him/her and you, is responsible for either having fed this information to some charlatan, or is in fact (more likely?) sending the emails themselves to try to pressure you into resuming contact? Horrible. You can imagine the effect on someone vulnerable.

It's a complete load of bollocks.

It's a complete load of bollocks.

Harsh, but fair. Could have saved a lot of bandwidth if this had been the 2nd post on page 1 and no one had said anymore.

FraAngelico no it's definitely not the family member, I am desperate to reconnect with this person, I have no idea how this so called psychic knows this, it's very weird, but I will continue to ignore these scam emails

Randi was interested in all sorts of phenomena, not people who claim to have messages from the dead -- goodness I do hope that after I die I either die dead or I have better things to do with my afterlife than wander about backstage at theatres looking for people in the audience whom I might have known so that I can tell them through a medium important things like that I used to eat Branston pickle sandwiches!

I was slightly surprised that the Randi foundation people never managed to locate someone who could dowse for water, because when we had very low water-pressure caused by a leak in a water-main in from the road under a large paved area and there was no record of exactly where that main ran nor way to see where it might be leaking, the water-board suggested that rather than dig up all the paving till we found the pipe, we should call in a dowser, and they gave us a couple of names to try. The first one we rang turned up next day, took about ten minutes to find the leak in the pipe for us, and after it had been dug up under the paving-stone where he directed, charged us fifteen quid (this was a while ago).

If the water board recommended him like that, surely he must have been reasonably likely to be successful? And would he have turned up when he was only paid by results, if he wasn't pretty sure he would be able to find the leak?

Not something vague but something specific almost word for word?

I was at a show where the “psychic” picked someone in the audience, and talked about her late father (the subject was young - late teens/early twenties, so it was by no means likely or probable that her dad had died). He told the young woman her fathers name, nickname, his nickname for her, and his hobby. She confirmed the accuracy of all of these.
The amazingly accurate psychic’s name? Derren Brown

I also went to a spiritualist centre in Edinburgh some 27 years ago. The woman pointed at me and told me I was pregnant, looking very pleased with herself. I was 40+ weeks at the time and the size of a bus . She talked to me about a dead relative... John? Nope, no such relative. An older man who died... something to do with his heart? No again. A lady from a large family who looked after me when I was young? Again, no.
I was cringing so much I was willing her to get something right! Finally a man in military uniform? I nodded, (but am of an age where it is likely I’d have had a grandfather in the war, and I did.) This man was apparently proud to have died for Britain.
But my GF didn’t; he survived the war... and was Polish!

Anyway, I think psychics/mediums are all either scamming fraudsters, or seriously deluded. I actually find it pretty depressing that so many otherwise sensible adults believe in this crap.

Then someone who wants you back in touch with one another, LHMB? Is it possible it's another family member, and that they're also sending emails as the 'psychic' to the family member from whom you're estranged? Though that doesn't make sense -- it would work better if the 'psychic' was saying they had a message for you, or that the stars were predicting a reunion, or something, rather than trying to con you into buying a reading...

Sorry, I shouldn't speculate, as it's clearly personal and painful. You are of course right to ignore.

Yes, about an event that had happened 50+ years previously. We were clueless as to what the medium was talking about despite the specifics and when it came to light some months later it shook our family to its roots.

How did it come to light, Baldrick? If you can say without being too specific about what the event was. I'm just interested in how a long past something suddenly came up, after so long...

LHMB but why wouldn’t you just block the sender? Seriously why? I mean it’s spam, of course nobody can sense your energy via an email address..

I suspect that hundreds and hundreds of these emails are sent daily via their email bot or whatever it is with random names in them, and probably 99 out of 100 times those names mean nothing but occasionally one will. It’s up there with me getting an email from Barclays/Nat West/

I like the skeptics, they removes the fraudsters, or at least give them a hard time.
Well, my claims to abilities of seeing aura has scientific back up, which is great when I get a non believer.

I imagine there are actually quite a lot of things which we think unique to our own families which are actually not that uncommon but aren’t shared within the family so finding out would be shocking.

So e.g.psychic says “you had an auntie who had a baby very young,”. And you’ve never heard of this so say that no it didn’t happen,” and psychic goes on to say “the baby was raised by your grandparents as a brother/sister,” and again, you’re adamant that it didn’t happen. Then you go back to the family and talk about it and it transpires that yes, auntie May had a baby at sixteen and rather than having the baby adopted the grandparents brought it up as their own, but nobody ever talked about it.... until now.

In fact I’d bet that most families have one of those in there somewhere..... Easy for a psychic to guess, for the person hearing it, it transpires that it was something which came out in unexpected circumstances and shook the family to its core. Iyswim.

FraAngelico thank you. I think it's just a random scammer trying to con people out of money.

Have tried blocking, still receiving the emails. Checked my block list, this address is on there yet still receiving them every so often

FraAngelico in connection with some paperwork that had been applied for months later. The details seemed incorrect and after enquiring why- it came to light.

Well, my claims to abilities of seeing aura has scientific back up, which is great when I get a non believer.

What does the science say? The only scientific article I've ever read on it was about discounting any correlation between people who have synesthaesia and people who 'see' auras, and it just put auras back in the realm of hallucination and suggestibility.

I was at one with some friends, it was a number of years and she charged a pack of cigarettes a person (so €8 or so each at the time) she told us stuff that no one could have known.

We all stayed in the room together (by choice). One of the girls had had a MC, none of the rest of us even knew and she said it out to us. She told me my auntie who's name started with K was watching over me, she struggled but couldn't get the rest of the name (her name was Kay but I never gave in and told her). Another friend she said that her granny wanted her to know that her feet were warm (her granny had recently died, her feet were always cold so they buried her in fluffy socks)

The "future" parts were fairly accurate too. She told me the guy I was with at the time was not right for me, I would have one more relationship before I met the one I wanted to spend the rest of my life with (so true it's not even funny). She told me I had planned to travel but family illness would keep me at home (I was to go to Canada that September by my nan had a stroke in the June and we didn't know how long she had so I didn't go). She also told me I would have 2 kids but not as soon as I wanted (I wanted kids at 25, I am nearly 30 and still none yet). I defiantly believe her (but I know not all are the same). I have tried to find her name again so many times but I can't.

I actually find it pretty depressing that so many otherwise sensible adults believe in this crap.

You and me both.

@whattodoaboutwailmer
Ok, I'll leave you to your disbelief, and absolute certainty at being right.