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Believe what a medium has said?

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wellhelloyou · 07/04/2019 06:53

Has anyone had a reading from a psychic medium (or like) and had something exactly came true? Not something vague but something specific almost word for word?

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KatharinaRosalie · 08/04/2019 10:25

It's very interesting how people adjust their memories to fit with what they want to believe. I've seen 'readings', where people claimed they had not said a word, and the psychic was amazingly accurate, giving them names and accurate details. When they check the tapes, the person has actually talked a considerable amount, giving the medium all kinds of info, and the amazing accuracies are in the lines of 'I see someone with the letter M...could be N..'

RosaWaiting · 08/04/2019 10:28

has OP been back?

these threads only go one way when certain posters arrive.

OP, hope you are not worried about anything. For all the accuracy of the one I saw, there's 10 billion fraudsters - so call it what you want to, as Taylor says! Wink

Wineott · 08/04/2019 10:34

I have never been to a medium and I don't really believe in it, but I'm not sure I don't believe in anything like that.

I would never attempt to tell anyone what the future holds for them especially for money but there are a lot of things that happen to me that I already know.

Small things like i know who a message is from before looking, even if it's not someone i expect to hear from.

I always knew who was calling on the landline as a child. Once, mum answered the phone and as soon as she picked it up I had an overwhelming feeling that a certain auntie was pregnant (I have 6 aunties) and I was right (I was only 10 at the time, and mum didn't believe that I knew before I told her)

A lot of dreams I have are true in the near future, not things in my control but for example a certain teacher at kids school going off sick or someones car breaking down in a specific way.

I often know what dh is thinking, I know this can be very much just knowing him well, but sometimes it will be something completely random.

A lot of it is easily explained I'm sure so I would never mention it in real life

Lifecraft · 08/04/2019 10:35

You’d have to be a pretty fucked up individual to make something like up

There is evidence for fucked up people. They exist. There is no evidence for psychics or ghosts.

I am not saying you've made it up, but I'm just pointing out that it's a logical explanation. There will be other logical explanations. But I know one thing for certain. You're mum doesn't see ghosts, or have special powers. No one does.

FraAngelico · 08/04/2019 10:37

It is. Katharina. Up the thread, I talked about my mother completely misremembering how accurate a psychic she'd seen when I was a baby was (we found a transcript decades afterwards) and my mother is a deeply, truthful, honest person who's barely capable of the merest social white lie she was certainly not consciously lying or deluding herself.

Mind you, even reading witness statements is a slightly alarming insight into how little/how differently we remember.

KatharinaRosalie · 08/04/2019 10:42

Good point FraAngelico - have you seen this TED talk about false memories and how easy it is to plant them? People did not lie, they would genuinely believe this was what happened.

DioneTheDiabolist · 08/04/2019 10:43

But I know one thing for certain. You're mum doesn't see ghosts, or have special powers. No one does.
Not a sceptic then.

RosaWaiting · 08/04/2019 10:46

Wine "A lot of it is easily explained I'm sure so I would never mention it in real life"

I know what you mean.

one thing I have told people IRL and on here - my auntie was in hospital with pneumonia. She wasn't even 60 at that time. She was discharged and spent a couple of days resting at home, seeming much better. Then one morning, she got up, had a shower, and her daughter,my cousin, texted me and mum that she was so perky she was singing in the shower. Mum texted back "ooh isn't that good".

my stomach dropped through the floor. My brain was screaming SHE'S SINGING BECAUSE SHE'S ABOUT TO BE RELEASED FROM LIFE, YOU FOOLS!!

I asked my boss if I could possibly leave early that day - boss kindly said yes. I did this because I knew auntie would die around 5pm.

Arrived at mum's, unannounced, to "what are you doing here?" for which I had no real explanation. Only had to fudge through 10 mins before we got the phone call.

poor mum, after she recovered she was like "but how did you know?"

I don't know how I knew. perhaps the singing in the shower was a red herring!!

my poor mother asked me "but WHY did you think she was going to die then" every day for about 6 weeks after.

I haven't predicted anyone else's death. Unless you count the collapse of Northern Rock, but that was probably predicted by anyone who loves the £ pages! Grin

FraAngelico · 08/04/2019 11:14

I haven't, Katharine -- do you have a link?

letsdolunch321 · 08/04/2019 11:23

No it is all a crock of shit what they tell you.

My wonderful mum was told she would find my dad dead in a chair one day on her return from shopping ...... they got that wrong as my dad is still very much alive and kicking and my lovely mum passed awAy 20yrs ago. ☹️

Thunderwing · 08/04/2019 11:29

I've been to several psychic nights, and occasionally I have been approached. I know that the majority are cold reading me, but I am not going to these nights to try and 'prove' anything - I just find them quite entertaining.

One experience however did stand out, and has made me wonder whether there are people out there with some unexplained gift.

I saw someone in a private home, he was a friend of a friend of a friend and he rarely did readings and took no money. He asked to hold a watch or ring of mine.

Just for some context; I have moved around the world with the forces my whole life and at the time I was new to the area - nobody knew me or my family history. I have a very (very) british name, but my mum is foreign, I have a 'forces' accent.

He told me that my grandfather had come through to him, specifically my mum's dad. He told me his (very foreign, very unusual) name. He told me my mum's (very foreign, very unusual) name. He told me that he used to walk with my mum on his shoulders through an apple orchard when she was little. He said that he'd been a terrible father, but that when he died he wanted to make it up to his daughter and so looked out for her and her kids. He told me what my mother had put on his coffin. He said that my dad was having an EA and gave the name of the woman. He looked at me and said, 'you're wondering how I can understand him seeing as I don't speak X, and he never spoke English' and then said that he couldn't explain it, just that language is not the same in the spirit world.

This whole time he was twirling my ring in his hands, and I hadn't said a thing.

If this guy was cold reading me, he was spectacularly good. This was in the infancy of the internet and as I said I was not local to the area. My maternal grandfather died when she was still a very young girl, but I'd heard stories about him. When I asked my mum about all the details of this reading, she went deathly white and he had been right about it all. She confronted my dad about the EA too, and he admitted it. They worked it through and to this day, my mum says that 'her dad' saved her marriage.

This is the only experience I've found difficult to explain - the rest are fairly easy to debunk.

After I lost my dad there were a few readings where the medium spoke about him - I don't know if they were genuine or not, but it did give some comfort. As far as I am concerned, as long as they are not exploitative or harmful and it gives people comfort, then I am good with it.

NoCauseRebel · 08/04/2019 11:55

There are two things wrong with this before we even get to the point that these psychics are all charlatans or deluded Fantasists.

Firstly, if all these people are being contacted by the dead, then the afterlife must be an awful place full of unhappy mourning souls who are all just clammering to contact their loved ones. It must be an incredibly noisy place given that A, most of them will never be heard so they will be shouting for ever, and B, they can foretell deaths, serious illness, bad things etc. And also, that completely shoots down the idea that when someone dies they are finally at peace.

Secondly, if the dead, the cards, the stars, and whatever else can predict the future down to the point that you could be told who is going to die, and how and when, then that also shoots down the idea that we have such a thing as freedom of choice. Your life is all mapped out, and there is nothing you can do to alter it.

Nope sorry, I am not sceptical, I am 100% certain that it’s not true.

I also know someone who runs a business training people to, as he says, discover and harness their “gift”. Hmm.

NoCauseRebel · 08/04/2019 12:01

I have read a few threads on here over the years and a couple of stories spring to mind.

The first was a poster who had been to see a medium who told her things they couldn’t possibly have known. Mentioned a close friend she’d had and had lost touch with, said this friend had died in tragic circumstances. Poster was distraught and believed entirely because she had been given details about this individual that only the poster knew etc etc. She couldn’t verify the story for some reason but fast forward a year or two and who should she bump into but the dead friend, very much alive and well.....

The other one was about someone who had tickets to see one of the well known psychics. One of her colleagues also had tickets and was totally believing in this kind of thing. They went along and it was amazing. People being told things that “only they could have known,” etc etc. The colleague came back and was awe-struck, and then it transpired that colleague could get tickets for another night as well, so excitedly he did. Went along, and the show was completely identacle. Same people, same situations, except if you hadn’t seen it before you wouldn’t know that.

KatharinaRosalie · 08/04/2019 12:12

FraAngelico this one:
www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_loftus_the_fiction_of_memory?language=en

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/04/2019 12:29

people claimed they had not said a word ... when they check the tapes, the person has actually talked a considerable amount, giving the medium all kinds of info

Which maybe explains why the lady I knew who had many such tapes was reluctant to share them with the less convinced

It's also interesting that so many say "most are fakes, but the odd one might have something" - and funnily enough, that one is usually the very person they've been to see

Ditto "I don't know how that could be explained". FWIW I don't understand quantum physics (or any physics come to that Blush) but that doesn't mean it's inexplicable, just that I don't know enough to access it

rosewater20 · 08/04/2019 12:42

@WhatToDoAboutWailmerGoneRogue Are you talking about the Randi prize? If so you should know that James Randi hasn't offered that prize for a few years now. Moreover, there is a lot of controversy surrounding the "test" which essentially amounts to Randi being the definitive word on the contestants. Which is a problem because he certainly doesn't want to admit that he is wrong does he and most certainly doesn't want to pay out a million dollars. It has also been suggested that the million dollars never existed.

JammyGem · 08/04/2019 12:46

Sally Morgan is vile. In a past life I worked at a theatre box office and the promoters tickets for each show are usually all blocked together. Not for her shows though - they were individual or pairs spread throughout the theatre. I often wonder if the people she picked out during her 'performance' were sitting in those seats...

Acis · 08/04/2019 12:55

It has also been suggested that the million dollars never existed.

Mostly by dodgy "mediums" and their followers.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/04/2019 13:03

Not quite, rosewater; it's true many criticised a test they knew they wouldn't pass, but then that's to be expected. However as you'll see below, applicants were in fact very closely involved in the planning and fully agreed the terms of the challenge before testing started: <a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20140413183837/www.randi.org:80/site/index.php/1m-challenge/challenge-application.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20140413183837/www.randi.org:80/site/index.php/1m-challenge/challenge-application.html

BTW, it seems the JREF has now progressed to offering grants "to non-profit groups that we believe are promoting activities that encourage critical thinking and a fact-based world view", which to many might seem a more sensible use of the money

Not to worry, though - it seems there are still plenty of other challenges with prizes out there to be claimed (though no doubt they'll all be "unfair" too) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prizes_for_evidence_of_the_paranormal

Lifecraft · 08/04/2019 13:09

My wonderful mum was told she would find my dad dead in a chair one day on her return from shopping ...... they got that wrong as my dad is still very much alive and kicking and my lovely mum passed awAy 20yrs ago

Somebody will be along in a minute to say you are being too demanding. Basically, your mum was told one of them would die, and the psychic was right! OK, a few unimportant details might not have been exactly spot on but no need to nitpick.

Someone died, just like was predicted.

Boysey45 · 08/04/2019 13:21

If its a total crock of shit how do they get full names of people from the past correct?
I think personally its some type of telepathy.

Lifecraft · 08/04/2019 13:50

If its a total crock of shit how do they get full names of people from the past correct? I think personally its some type of telepathy.

If they do, they've got it from previous research. Most of the time they don't.

Psychic : He's coming thru...John.
Punter: It's my dad, he was John.
Psychic: Surname isn't clear, begins with an s (no reaction) or a J (no reaction (might be a B).
Punter: Yes, John Brown.
Punter, after the show: That's amazing, she knew his full name and everything.

As for telepathy, again, not a shred of evidence for it. Even identical twins, who are always banging on about it, always fail to reproduce it when tested under scientific conditions.

G5000 · 08/04/2019 14:00

They do their research. Facebook and other social media, but also newspaper obituaries, any kinds of articles about unexpected tragic events in the area etc.

Sweetlittlepug · 08/04/2019 14:33

Anyone who’s had a bad experience with one, and there must be many, doesn’t prove that that must mean they’re all rubbish. For every hundred imposters there might be one genuine one. I definitely believe some people are physic. There are police forces in America that have used/use them with remarkable results.

BertrandRussell · 08/04/2019 14:35

“There are police forces in America that have used/use them with remarkable results.”

Sorry- no there aren’t.

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