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Prime example of CFery from previous home owner... Aibu?

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mummabubs · 31/03/2019 23:04

Two years I've been on MN and this is both my first AIBU and my first CF post! So...

We bought our house 5 years ago. It was previously owned jointly by three male colleagues (let's call them Tom, Dick and Harry). To give a bit of background context there were lots of small niggles shortly after we exchanged- when we moved in it turned out the 3 guys had left a crap load of furniture/broken equipment in the house that they no longer wanted and the garden was littered with hundreds of cigarette ends (no exaggeration). The loft was even left full of their stuff. "Tom" hasn't been any bother to us to give him an iota of credit. For the first 2 years "Dick" caused us no end of trouble as we had weekly letters and calls from debt collection agencies threatening to send bailiffs as he owed a lot of people a lot of money and naturally hadn't left any forwarding addresses. Knew my rights re:bailiffs so wasn't worried but it was frankly a pain in the arse to deal with. Damn you Dick.

The AIBU relates to what I think is cheeky fuckery on Harry's part. Harry randomly turned up on our doorstep three months after we'd moved in to say he'd come to collect his stuff from the loft. My inclination was to tell him we'd got rid of it all to teach a valuable lesson but my DH instantly said "no worries" and went and got the stuff for him from the loft. (He's a good egg). In year two of living here we got a lot of clearly NHS mail for Harry from our local hospital marked Private and Urgent. I didn't open any of the mail but could see the department number from the envelope window so called the hospital just to let them know Harry doesn't live here anymore so they might need to call him instead. Problem solved.

Fast forward 3 years and tonight my DH and I got home from a long trip to find a note put through our door "Hi, it's Harry here. I used to own your house. I'm expecting an important appointment letter from my GP and they have my registered address as here so can you let me know when it arrives. My number is XXXX. Thanks, Harry". I sent a reply saying that I'd look out for it but it was probably wise to check as I'd told the hospital before he didn't live here so it might not be sent here. Also said it might be a good idea to update his GP surgery with his new address. Got a reply a few minutes later saying "no it'll definitely come to you. I haven't told them I've moved as I can get appointments really quickly in that surgery and you can let me know when letters arrive".

So- basically he's refusing to register with a surgery in his own area so he can keep using up appointments here... and also expects me to look out for his mail and act as his secretary. I'm sorry but what the actual fuck?! It's been 5 years, just change your sodding GP surgery!! I've a good mind to get the letter and then tell him it's here but also call the surgery that stamps the envelope to tell them he's not living here anymore. AIBU to do that? Or should I just message him to say I'll let him know this once but I'm not doing it again? Or is that fact I've just endured a 3 hour car trip with a screaming toddler meaning I'm being overly harsh?

OP posts:
Bluelonerose · 01/04/2019 08:37

9 years later I'm still getting baliff letters despite me writing on the envelope return to sender.
I don't think they care.

I've given up now and think sod it send a baliff round and I'll prove who am I and that she doesn't live here (the only other option is there is a secret part of my house she lives in I haven't found yet)

burritofan · 01/04/2019 08:41

(the only other option is there is a secret part of my house she lives in I haven't found yet)
Totally off-topic but in my old house the landlord came around for a once-in-a-blue-moon inspection and said in passing, "And none of you use the cellar, of course?" We'd lived there 10 years and had no idea there was one! (Access hatch in the under-stairs cupboard.) So, you know...

Loving the hardline suggestions to do Harry this CF favour and then really put your foot down, that'll show him.

RhiWrites · 01/04/2019 08:42

Text him back. “Harry, you haven’t lived here in 5 years. Please stop giving out this address. I will be returning all future letters to the sender saying as much. Do not contact me again.”

Petalflowers · 01/04/2019 08:46

Definitely let the Gp know he has moved house and he no longer resides at your address. His health is not your responsibility.

diddl · 01/04/2019 08:48

""no it'll definitely come to you. I haven't told them I've moved as I can get appointments really quickly in that surgery and you can let me know when letters arrive". "

For that alone you should have told him no.

No wonder some people can't register with their nearest GP!

I'm shocked that you're goin alon with it.

Bluelonerose · 01/04/2019 08:49

@Burrito will I get arrested if I find a hidden room with her in Grin

Roussette · 01/04/2019 09:06

Who on earth were Tom Dick and Harry to you... bosom pals? You call them colleagues, were you really close or something? Because if not, I have no idea why you are doing all this stuff 10 years on.

I would've binned everything and returned letters and told them in no uncertain terms to sort their stuff out.

DarklyDreamingDexter · 01/04/2019 09:07

No, no, no!! Absolutely return the letters to sender marked 'addressee unknown'. Tell him you've done that if he asks. Some people! He's blocking a place for a genuine local resident and being an absolute cheeky fucker.

Happynow001 · 01/04/2019 09:07

I've a good mind to get the letter and then tell him it's here but also call the surgery that stamps the envelope to tell them he's not living here anymore. AIBU to do that?

You are definitely not being unreasonable.

It's been five YEARS! Time for him to grow up and stop being so lazy and entitled.

I would absolutely tell him this ^^ and also that you will just Return to Sender ANY future mail with no further notifications to him. Then block and delete him from your life.

thecatsthecats · 01/04/2019 09:07

I would be sooooo tempted to give him a fake appointment date and time before his actual time, then texting him the correct details at the time he's gone to the first appointment.

"Oops, silly me. It's 10am Tuesday NEXT week, not this week. Hope you didn't go to too much trouble. Sorry - I seem to have as much trouble reading dates as you do GIVING OUT THE CORRECT ADDRESS"

Contraceptionismyfriend · 01/04/2019 09:09

Whatever health issues he have are his issues.
Do not do this! Take the letters to the GP and say that this man does not live at your address. He is fraudulently using your address and you want it removed.
Then block him.
If he comes knocking tell him to piss off.

Janedoughnut · 01/04/2019 09:11

I take the letter to the surgery and explain everything to them.

Then text him to say that he can pick his letter up at the surgery and, while he's there, tell them that he no longer lives at your address.

EllenOlenska · 01/04/2019 09:11

OP speak to the data quality team at the hospital. Had a similar issue myself and they were marvellous

sackrifice · 01/04/2019 09:21

Hi. You seem to think that I am not only your secretary, but an unpaid one. I do not remember signing this contract, and so cannot be held to these terms. All your post is put straight into the bin, and will continue to be, until it becomes worth my while to do otherwise.

Disturbedone · 01/04/2019 09:21

You really need to let the surgery know he doesn't live there. He could be fraudulently getting credit and all sorts!

CatGoals · 01/04/2019 09:25

Haven’t read the whole thread yet but I bloody hope you’ve grown a backbone by the end of it!

Motoko · 01/04/2019 09:58

Why are you going to do it this one time?

Just take the letter to the surgery and give them his number. They can sort it out from there. Otherwise, he'll be back again, saying he is going to sort it out, but hasn't had time yet.

You would be a fool if you do as he asks.

Oh, and to the pp who said he might ruin your credit history, no, he won't. Debt is tied to the person, not the address.

Darkstar4855 · 01/04/2019 10:13

I would return all mail to sender and also speak to the GP surgery and let them know that he has not updated his address. They can then chase him to give them the new one.

Disturbedone · 01/04/2019 10:13

I didn't say that he would ruin her credit history, but if he takes out credit on her address, it could cause more hassle such as collectors letters and knocking on the door!

Contraceptionismyfriend · 01/04/2019 10:23

I would not hand over any letters to him! The last thing you want is him having a current proof of address.

1sttimeunicorn · 01/04/2019 10:36

We have lived in our current house for 7 years and still get more post for previous occupants than for ourselves. We get a lot of charity post for them, I think they sign up for things giving their old address. I wouldn't do anything to be helpful as I think he may continue to take the piss.

Motoko · 01/04/2019 10:47

Not you @Disturbedone, it was another poster, who said this:

Just imagine what the hell he could do to your credit history if he is still listed as living at that address.

senua · 01/04/2019 10:47

Q: can you let me know when it arrives. My number is XXXX. Thanks, Harry

A: no worries. I'll forward it to you. What's your new address? so I can tell the surgery
Wink

Waspnest · 01/04/2019 11:00

Don't even entertain it. He's an adult, his health is his responsibility^^ and he's had five years to sort this out. I would be very clear and say, "No, Harry, that's not happening. This is our home and not a PO Box, and I am not your secretary. You'll have to work something else out because any mail addressed to you is being returned to sender as it has been since you moved out".

^This
Who on earth would think this was a reasonable thing to ask of a stranger?

ToEarlyForDecorations · 01/04/2019 11:16

The fact that Harry's cheeky fucker response starts with the word no and the last few words of it are an instruction make me angry. His high handed arrogance sums him up.

We rented a house and the previous tenant was obviously pulling some scam with a credit card. She wanted me to tell her when a particular item of mail turned up. OK, I thought, you've not long moved out. I'll call you when it comes. It didn't come. She then came to the house pretty much with the attitude of, 'look, has that envelope from the bank arrived yet ?' Er, no love or I would have called you.

She turned up again, with her hapless boyfriend and a school aged child in the car wanting the envelope. I said, no, not arrived yet.

When it did come, I phoned her contact number and left the envelope leaning against the outside of the closed front door to be collected, which it was.

A while later, a credit card came which I RTS. I also RTS the letter from the child's school asking why the child's attendance was so low.

So, she had obviously, 'done a flit.'

I mentioned this to the Landlord, all he cared about was the fact that he changed the locks when she left because he did not trust her to hand her key back.

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