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To invite all Mumsnetters to the Brexit Rally in Parliament Square tomorrow afternoon/evening?

782 replies

SunnyInGrimsby · 28/03/2019 22:21

OK, it's doubtful Brexit is going to happen any time soon but definitely worth coming along and standing up for what we voted for.

Very little coverage in the media - unfortunately no full page spreads in the Standard for us....

It will be going on until early evening so still worth turning up if you can't get the day off work. Lots of great speakers including Julia Hartley Brewer, Claire Fox, Kate Hoey et al.

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IvanaPee · 29/03/2019 08:30

Leave voters are older so less willing/able to stand around in the cold and less tech savvy so may not be aware of the demonstration are some reasons.

They can exercise their right to vote and ruin the country for the younger generation, but they can’t trsvel to London for a couple of hours?!

Stopandlook · 29/03/2019 08:31

I know several people who traveled far from London into the capital for the people’s vote march.

It’s not a London thing, it’s that many people are a lot better informed now.

LuckyMarmiteLover · 29/03/2019 08:32

And the older generation call millennials Snowflakes ❄️

Poloshot · 29/03/2019 08:34

Can't make it but hope it goes well. We'll be leaving don't you little remainders worry about that, unfortunately it's not today.

listsandbudgets · 29/03/2019 08:35

YANBU to invite us...and I am not being unreasonable to decline.

You would of course have been welcome at the People's Vote March last week but O suspect that you should have felt the same about that invitation as I do about yours.

Anyway certain elements are threatening riots. No thank you.

listsandbudgets · 29/03/2019 08:37

PS MY MIL is 901 but she voted remain... she was thinking if her grand children and I suspect a lot of older people fell into that category

listsandbudgets · 29/03/2019 08:38

^ 91^ not 901!!

onalongsabbatical · 29/03/2019 08:42

Kudos and thanks to listsandbudgets mil. There could be a long way to go in the process yet, but I think the WA will be voted down today and the 2nd round of indicative votes on Monday will move things on.
Last week's march was wonderful!

longwayoff · 29/03/2019 08:52

Pro Brexit posters bragged a lot about the bottles of champagne put aside for tonight's celebrations with Nigel and Tommy. Don't forget to take them witth you, there should be more than enough to go round. Grin

TeddyIsaHe · 29/03/2019 08:54

@onalongsabbatical I so hope you’re right!

Does anyone know what time the vote is today?

longwayoff · 29/03/2019 08:57

What is Mark Francois and where did he come from? He's like a walking cartoon. Absolute twunt.

onalongsabbatical · 29/03/2019 09:01

TeddyIsaHe I think middle of the afternoon, 3.00-3.30-ish? I'll update if it gets clearer.

Isitmybathtimeyet · 29/03/2019 09:01

I think many Leave voters would protest peacefully and in an orderly way. But since the Referendum campaign and before, Leave has also been a rallying point for some deeply unsavoury people and I rather agree with the saying that not all Leave voters are racists, all racists are Leave voters. Even small scale pro-Brexit events have involved violence and arrests and I wouldn't go near the area today for anything, obviously not to march but just generally for my own safety. The overtly far right have embraced Brexit from the start.

DerelictWreck · 29/03/2019 09:04

I would just like to point out that everyone is my office (central gov. Department) has been instructed to work from home today due to the expected violence. The reasoning being that the poor security guards are going to have enough to deal with without worrying about workers inside the office as well. This is largely due to the coveted EDL prescience.

So well done who ever organised such a shit show.

FaFoutis · 29/03/2019 09:09

I'm enjoying the excuses for the small numbers turning up to something that has not happened yet.

My DH's office has been closed today because of this, the police are not expecting a peaceful event.

longwayoff · 29/03/2019 09:09

Bathtime, you are right. Anyone with any sense needs to stay away from the swivel eyed loons that have attached themselves to the Leave cause who will use it to further their far right agenda in their usual fashion.

onalongsabbatical · 29/03/2019 09:11

Debate opens 9.30, closes at 2.30-ish with closing speeches then the vote so around about 3.00. Fingers crossed. Every damn thing crossed. Vote it down, vote for revoke or customs union or People's vote on Monday, further bunfight I'm afraid because indicative votes are not law. Still all to play for.

SkiFiend · 29/03/2019 09:12

I'm a remainer but fully support Leavers' right to PEACEFUL protest. I fear this is going to be anything but peaceful, however- a small group of thugs causing trouble who don't represent the majority of leavers at all. Some of the behaviour of these people around parliament over the last few weeks has been disgraceful. Hope I am wrong about this but I'll be avoiding the area.

LonelyTiredandLow · 29/03/2019 09:15

DerelictWreck I think 'organised' is too strong a term there... Wink

Planning has never been a particular forte of the Leave campaign.

SunnyInGrimsby · 29/03/2019 09:20

There are louts on both sides of the divide; surely if the far right wishes to cause trouble they would have picked on the pro EU one last week?

My fear is that people who are anti today's march are spreading rumours which will have the effect of frightening law abiding people away.
Besides the ultra left antifa group cause more trouble than anybody but the police are brilliant at isolating trouble makers these days.

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FaFoutis · 29/03/2019 09:21

There are louts on both sides of the divide
That is not true. This is not an old fashioned left/right thing.

TeddyIsaHe · 29/03/2019 09:22

Thanks @onalongsabbatical!

Meant to be WFH but doubt I’m going to get much done.

Kko1986 · 29/03/2019 09:23

I've said it before and I will say it again stop with the hate. I am a leave voter if I didn't have to work yes I would go as I believe in it.
I've been so quiet to people calling leavers names and being quite nasty but I'm getting sick of it.
I'm a mother I'm a wife I agree leave in the long run will be successful nothing worth having is easy.
Please can I remind you all this is fast going in to bullying territory and both sides leave and remain are guilty in parts.
I would rather stay civil and peaceful but seriously the comments on here from remainers either you are a nasty person or a troll.
Please remember people have different views different hopes and dreams I will always try to respect someone else's views but when it starts as leavers are stupid and ignorant it doesn't work. I don't judge based on how people voted I followed my heart and my head.
Please be kind to each other as we are the examples for our children and if they see us bullying they will copy.

TeddyIsaHe · 29/03/2019 09:25

@Kko1986 by the time leaving is beneficial to the UK you’ll be dead. Sorry if I can’t see the worth of it.

I do agree with your be kind to each other though, but sometimes it’s rather testing when leavers can’t quantify why they voted leave or what benefit it is going to being to the average person.

MaudBaileysGreenTurban · 29/03/2019 09:27

There are louts on both sides of the divide

Can you give an example of loutish behaviour from Remain supporters? eg: the times that Remain supporters have harrassed female politicians in the street? Or the times that a remain supporter has kicked off at the police? Or any examples of Remain supporters carrying a hangman's noose through the streets?

Or, you know, any example of a Remain supporter murdering an MP?

There were Leave supporters at last weeks march, a tiny group of them. I saw more police surrounding them then I did throughout the whole of the rest of the march. They had a police van in front of them and one behind them.

This is the falsest of false equivalences.

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