DD in isolation for wearing the wrong socks

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DD who's in year 7 is being put in the isolation room at school tomorrow for wearing the incorrect colour socks, white instead of black. She did do this two days in a row after being warned so I do think she should accept the punishment as she was warned. But AIBU to think this is a silly rule anyway? They seem to claim that having school uniform is setting them up for life and work yet what workplace is going to tell someone to work away from everyone facing a wall for the day because they wore the wrong colour socks? So why do schools feel the need to be so strict?

Rediculous rule! As a teacher in a deprived area I can't stand these sort of nonsense rules! If children are at school, listening in class and achieving their potential socially and academically that's all that matters.

I went to a Top 10 across State and Private school. If it got hot, we took off whatever layers we wanted (jumper and blazer). If it was cold we put it on. In the Summer they spent their life stashed in our bags or lockers. Because uncomfortable, over heated or freezing kids don't concentrate. It should be hard to figure out.

I am anticipating a phone call from school as dd has gone in different coloured socks today.
In my defence I've been without a washing machine for almost a week and tbh I've been more concerned about getting proper uniform washed and dried.
I have sent her in with a note explaining that and I've told her she's not doing any punishment relating to sock colour.

I agree it's a stupid rule but it's also not particularly difficult to follow so it wouldn't be one I would bother to put in a fight about. It's not like DD has been expelled the isolation is a hassle but it's hardly a long term problem.

well, I suppose it's useful to set her up for a lifetime of adhering to petty bureaucracy.

MN as a whole adores uniform, it's one of the most mindless, sheep-like things I can think of.

well, I suppose it's useful to set her up for a lifetime of adhering to petty bureaucracy.

Quite.

It's not about the colour of the socks.
Your daughter will not need to wear a certain kind of sock for a workplace environment no, but conforming in this way will teach her valuable skills.
She will be expected to consider herself a team player who is treated like everyone else with the same restrictions and benefits ( time off for certain reasons, leaving early etc) in this case uniform.
She will need to be respectful of her bosses who have made previous decisions and of her colleagues who work within these rules/ guidelines. In this case uniform.
She will need to represent an organisation/. company and understand how you present yourself and behave ( polite,interested in others etc) reflects on more than just you as an individual. In this case the school and uniform.
She will need to understand that if you make a mistake you will be spoken to and guided but if you ignore this advice there will be disciplinary action. In this case isolation for incorrect uniform.

In summary she will need to understand that disrespect for others and thinking the rules don't apply to her will make working life very difficult.

I really don't know why people think teachers just want to police petty rules. They are there for a reason and the reason is always the kids best interests whether it is safety or life skills.

You can complain about the silly rule but then wonder why your child isn't given a permanent contract at a company full of "silly. rules".

Your daughter will not need to wear a certain kind of sock for a workplace environment no, but conforming in this way will teach her valuable skills.

Yes, how to unquestioningly obey stupid petty rules.

No , respect for others and that they are not special which so many parents are bringing their children up to believe.

OP, what if you'd posted saying, my DD is in isolation for being deliberately out of uniform, warned, yet did it again?

You don't have to send your DD to that school.

You can campaign at governors to change the rules to ones that say whatever the rules are they are petty

I detest school uniforms, though not nearly so much as the views of parents who piss and moan about that they signed up for.

To, not at governors.

echt you do know that a lot of parents don't actually get to choose which school their DC end up at?

YDNBU

I've had to meet my DS three times in 3 years with his school shoes. He puts the wrong ones on before leaving and only.notices when he is on his way to.school, usually on the bus. I have stopped him doing this myself around 6 times in the same period but don't always see him putting his shoes on as he leaves.

Then rings me in a panic as he doesn't want to.be late or to.get in trouble for the shoes. Luckily my work is quite close.to school and I leave about 15 mins after he does so we have managed to meet and sort it out

I'd be if he was put in isolation for genuine forgetfulness that is a.genuine mistake. I don't believe isolation would help him remember at all it would just make him anxiois. That is schools though so I am afraid she will have to just accept.it.

Can you discuss strategies with her for remembering . Maybe put a reminder note on the front door reminding her to make sure she has correct socks,/ uniform on before leaving for school to help stop it happening again?

echt you do know that a lot of parents don't actually get to choose which school their DC end up at?

After 40+ years of teaching, I sort of get that.

The parents can campaign at their school, homeschool or just suck it up. Them's the breaks.

so you're comment 'that's what they signed up for' is pretty meaningless, then? Because they may well have had no choice but to sign up for it?

It's a stupid rule. Plus I don't believe teaching children to follow stupid and pointless rules is a good life lesson at all. We want a generation of young adults who can stand up for what's right, not mindless sheep who follow rules because they're rules.

so you're comment 'that's what they signed up for' is pretty meaningless, then? Because they may well have had no choice but to sign up for it?

There's always a choice.

Not round my way there isn't. There's a choice in theory and then you get given a school that wasn't any of your 6, that's miles away in the wrong direction.

You can choose to homeschool if you feel so strongly. (Hard work)

Or campaign at the school. (Hard work)

If your daughter is seen going around school in white socks it sends a message to the other pupils it’s ok. She needs to buck her ideas up.

Some rules are ridiculous without a doubt and if you don’t like them, campaign to change them.

Until then, she needs to wear black socks. Not so hard is it?

(I hate white socks, buggers to get completely clean)

yes - but I'm talking about your comment 'what they signed up for'. If DD got given a school that wasn't one of our 6 and we'd never looked at, there would be no choice (homeschooling not being an option on the table).

parttimeateverything, so how come children in other countries manage fine learning those rules despite never having to conform to silly uniform rules at school?

yes - but I'm talking about your comment 'what they signed up for'. If DD got given a school that wasn't one of our 6 and we'd never looked at, there would be no choice (homeschooling not being an option on the table)

But you still agreed to it.

You don't have to send your DD to that school.

I have to send my DD to the school she's at. The other 2 within realistic travel are over subscribed, and I know this because when her school started to go spectacularly tits up I applied to both. And got turned down as there wasn't room. So some of us do have to send children to a certain school. Believe me if I could have moved her I would have.

You can campaign at governors to change the rules to ones that say whatever the rules are they are petty

Yes I agree, however my DDs school is currently of the opinion that everything that's wrong is down to parents and children. End of discussion. It's also completely passed them by that they are in a deprived area, it's a hell of a lot easier to adhere to rules that cost money when you have it.

I detest school uniforms, though not nearly so much as the views of parents who piss and moan about that they signed up for.

But I didn't have a choice, I didn't get an option. My DD has to have an education, I'm in no way qualified to provide that, a school is much better placed, and there is only one, miserably failing, school, available.

Fwiw we follow the rules, they've just changed yet again, because apparently the only way to improve a school is by uniform rules, which is incredibly short sighted. I understand that a uniform is a good thing, but if it's so 'essential' why aren't teachers and staff required to wear one too? Lead by example?