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To have a third DC

124 replies

hannahsp84 · 24/03/2019 19:35

Just looking for some advice and perspectives from mums of 3, or mums who decided to stick at 2 but considered a 3rd.

We are a professional couple in our late 30s who have two beautiful DCs aged 2 and 4. We have fairly well paid jobs, a modest mortgage, and recently much to our surprise inherited a second home in France. We have two cars, a couple of credit cards but no major debt except the mortgage etc.

I would love a third child. My DH will take some persuasion but he is amenable. He loves children and he would really like a third person to be part of our family but he’s convinced that it’ll be very very expensive and that the baby years with potentially three under 6 or 7 would be hellish and perhaps not worth it.

Am I missing something? Is a third child really so much more expensive than the amount extra we spent on each of the others? I know kids are expensive but is this some kind of tipping point? We would need to replace one of our cars, and already have one XC90 which sits 3 adults in the back no problem. We plan to holiday at our own home in France most of the time so no worries about package holiday prices etc. We have a live out nanny already as due to our long work hours some days it already worked out cheaper than nursery and makes our lives so much easier too. I’m sure she’d be able to manage a third child with a bit of a pay rise.

Is a third child a huge amount of work? Enough to make the first few years intolerably shit? Or just in the “a bit stressful but worth it” category.

Mums of 3, it’s Sunday evening...are you happy? Or are you crying into your wine counting down the hours until a relaxing break at work tomorrow?

OP posts:
handonhip · 25/03/2019 15:43

Three is mad but totally wonderful - and we regret nothing. DH required persuading to have nos. 1, 2 AND 3 so I wouldn’t feel badly about that despite others’ comments. (DH feels the children are the best thing that ever happened to him). Also, you will have little financial stress, comparatively speaking, when it comes to a third, so I think you are in a fantastic position. I wish you well. We are exhausted, yes, but then we have no nanny. I think you would cope just fine. Three is magical!

Uptheduffagai · 25/03/2019 17:28

Shouldn’t have read this 2 weeks away from giving birth to my 3rd 😬

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 25/03/2019 17:33

I have four
Both parents working full time since youngest went to school
No wider family support
Expensive
Chaotic
Exhausting
Wouldn’t change it for the world

ChipsAreLife · 25/03/2019 19:25

Glad I found this, I feel this overwhelming urge to have a third inspite of all the reasons above for not having one.

DH and I both work for ourselves so we have flexibility which will help a lot but I also will have to go back to work very quickly which really puts me off. I could probably stretch to have two months off but would realistically still have to do a day week before then.

In your situation I would go for it!

bliminy · 25/03/2019 21:24

So that's only two to look after then isn't it

You don't really have an imagination do you?

Anon10 · 25/03/2019 21:58

I’m reading with interest as I’m in a very similar situation! Have a 1 year old and a 3 year old and want another but not sure about the practicalities... mainly time and finance in the long term.

Inliverpool1 · 26/03/2019 07:00

I think when you’re in the baby bubble you think it’ll always be this way so why not have three, why not have 6’!
But they grow up, you get your life back and it would be nice to have some money for you

Originofstars · 26/03/2019 07:28

Some of these decisions seem selfish. People love having a little tribe but can't commit the 1 to 1 time each kid needs. That's a dealbreaker for me.

Ragwort · 26/03/2019 08:39

Agree Origin, and as for the comment about seeing pictures of happy families on Pinterest encouraging people to have three or more children, must be the most bizarre comment I’ve read on Mumsnet Hmm.

handonhip · 26/03/2019 09:45

I understand origin. The other side of it is that I think my kids prefer their siblings to extra one-on-one time. Certainly, as an adult I am glad to have siblings even if I sacrificed such personal time with my parents. And our youngest, well she isn’t sacrificing anything as she wouldn’t exist in the other scenario. It is one one level a ridiculous thought, as you can’t quantify happiness, but I suspect the youngest’s happiness at existing is greater than any unhappiness her siblings’ might have at a loss of one-on-one time. Though of course all families are different. (Unless you believe the Anna Karenina principle!)

GoldenHour · 26/03/2019 09:59

@Originofstars I have to agree, I have to raise an eyebrow at those who say "I didn't feel done" "I had to persuade my husband" (??!!) "you don't regret the kids you have" I appreciate biology isn't rational and if we were entirely rational about parenthood we probably wouldn't have any at all, but the decision does seem to be made with only the parent (plural if they're lucky) in mind in a lot of the cases and not the pre existing children.

LazyLizzy · 26/03/2019 10:14

As I said earlier, I hated being one of three. But I imagine people aren't thinking of how the DC would feel when they are planning a 3rd.
Emotionally it has an impact growing up.

MsTSwift · 26/03/2019 10:17

I don’t think it is for the parents to decide if it’s “wonderful” or “magical”. Not your call. Your kids when they are adults get to determine that.

splishysplashy · 26/03/2019 10:26

If you're not totally driven to to have more, I'd say hold at 2.

Good luck with your choices! You may either be forever wishing you had 3, or you could have 3 and wishing you had stopped earlier! Neither choice guarantees your happiness, but having 3 guarantees a lot more work and lifestyle changes in unforeseen ways.

Btw - not many people are going to jump up and say they regret having 3 since this would wish away the 3rd and I can't see anyone wanting to admit this to theselves, let alone others on Mumsnet, particularly if they are struggling.

The problem is not the expense. The problem is that each child gets less time from parents. This might or might not be ok, depending on your situation. In the end, I gave up work so that I could make sure that each kid gets enough 1-2-1 time with me as the time left at the end of the working day wasn't enough split 3 ways. I wouldn't have thought I"d have made that decision as I was so into my career, but having 3 takes you down a different path, and you have to make decisions based on the new circumstances you find yourself in. The family is working far better now, but I have had to make sacrifices (which I'm happy with, given the issues that we faced). I was completely ignorant of the issues that I would face upon having 3 when I just had my 2 little ones - I thought it would simply be more of the same, but for us, the chaos multiplied
exponentially.

Also, in the early days, I stopped being lovely mum and started being shouty mum since with 2 kids you can intervene in a civilised way ('let's come up with some solutions and then choose one that works for both of you'), whilst with 3, you are often looking after the needs of the 3rd when 1 and 2 need attention, so can only intervene by bellowing at them from the far end of the house / garden / park / road. This patch does pass as they get older, though.

When it's all working, it is lovely. However, who's to say it's more lovely than if there were 2?

So - do think it all through. Good luck!

Originofstars · 26/03/2019 10:30

The other side of it is that I think my kids prefer their siblings to extra one-on-one time

I wasn't referring not to extra one-on-one time, but to sufficient time. A pp mentioned not being able to get round to helping with a child's homework because of the demands.

Also I'm not sure that weighing up one child's gain by being born against the siblings commensurate loss of parental time is particularly comforting for the older siblings

IHopeYouUnderstandWeArePuppets · 26/03/2019 10:34

I had my third 6 months ago. She joined DD(6) and DS(5). They are only 15 months apart and having a third is infinitely easier than having two under two. Grin My only regret is that she isn’t slightly closer in age to the older two - they are very close and I worry that she might be left out (then I wonder about having a fourth).

I love the chaos and the busyness of life with three. DH and I don’t have amazing salaries, but are probably higher than average and we’re managing to go on holiday, do nice things, buy nice clothes etc while I’m on mat leave. I will go back to work part time, and before my third I thought I’d go full time once she is in school. Now I’m really not sure that will work from the logistical perspective of getting everyone to their hobbies and getting their homework done!

Home77 · 26/03/2019 17:23

I stuck with two- mainly for health reasons - have mental health and would have been a struggle. I struggle as it is, although it is getting a bit easier as they get older and more independant.

I have to say every day I am grateful I did...even though DH wanted another. (hmm- he has no idea of the day to day reality I feel)

Mine are older now and it is different with all the stuff of secondary school- and the costs as well. It's expensive with the school trips and uniform etc.

Also the time etc...I can be calmer and deal with homework and it would be chaos with dealing with a younger one as well. I'd end up taking the baby / toddler along with me and I'd basically had enough of that.

Maybe with close age gaps it is different but I really enjoy my two boys more and more as they grow and like to have calm time not chaos, but others like the chaos. I's be so stressed trying to sit down and do homework or speak about school etc with a toddler/baby crying and feel the others would miss out.

I guess it is a case of how you feel but remembering they are not a baby for long, and how it will impact on the whole family is the key thing.

FoxFoxSierra · 26/03/2019 17:35

I wanted 3 but could never have afforded it so stuck at 2. In your position I would go for it

lalafafa · 26/03/2019 18:16

you seem to have a good work/life balance OP, go for it.

handonhip · 26/03/2019 19:01

Am one of three and do find it wonderful. Personally, I don’t understand the idea that a third child’s existence and the commensurate loss of parents’ 1-to-1 time with older children is not much of a ‘comfort’ to older siblings. However, I don’t need to understand, I suppose. To each his/her own. As to the idea that I shouldn’t speak for my kids as to whether it is magical - they have in fact made their feelings known - and regularly ask for a 4th!

BottomleyPottsSpots2 · 26/03/2019 19:26

I have 3, aged 10, 9 and 6. Am tentatively (10 weeks) pregnant with number 4. Bloody love having 3, it is chaotic but the children are happy, we are happy, everyone has friends / hobbies and gets attention. DH is a (very) full time GP and I am a full time academic but with considerable flexibility in my role - without it, I would not be able to hold down a full time job. I am pondering looking for a nanny if number 4 becomes a take-home baby as the older two will be moving to high school soon and that means various wrap-around care headaches.

Re: laundry / food / the usual domestic stuff ... it somehow happens. Online shopping, a cleaner once per week, basically not ironing anything, getting kids involved early on in helping sort and put away laundry, prep food and tidy up.

handonhip · 26/03/2019 20:54

Nice to read about your happy, chaotic life, Bottomley. Best of luck with everything.

Originofstars · 26/03/2019 21:35

Personally, I don’t understand the idea that a third child’s existence and the commensurate loss of parents’ 1-to-1 time with older children is not much of a ‘comfort’ to older siblings

I think the issue is that only the older children can speak to that. Neither the parents of those children nor an unconnected multi parent can possibly know

ChipsAreLife · 27/03/2019 11:59

Just as a child of a big family here is my two pence.

I'm one of five. Eldest of us has Downs syndrome and autism, DF always away with work, DM worked full time. On paper you would say I would be neglected. But no, I had an incredibly happy childhood I felt loved, safe, happy and I had one to one time with parents and my siblings and I are now incredibly close.

I feel very lucky and it's a driver for me to want more than the two I have. When DM was dying having all my siblings with me was of huge comfort too and now we care for DB and DF it shares the 'load'.

I don't think children need 24/7 one on one parent time to feel loved and safe personally. It's all about quality not quantity in my book. Also My kids love playing with each other probably more than with me now!

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