To wonder what would it actually take to cause civil unrest in the UK

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Why aren't people angrier about Brexit? Why have there been no riots? Is it because the part of society that are more likely to root want Brexit and the rest of us are too polite.

I live in France where we have been having weekly riots for the past few months because people are a bit upset they haven't got enough money. Yet in the UK not a single window has been smashed.

I'm not saying rioting is a good thing, I'm just wondering why other in other countries people get angry enough to riot but in the UK they don't.

Hold on, in one thread people are saying leave votes are constantly gloating and saying 'get over it', in another people are saying they're 'keeping quiet'. Which is it?

Both statements are true.

They keep gloating and saying "Leave won, get over it", "I'm hoping for a No Deal Brexit" "Brexit means Brexit" "What was the EU again?" but when pressed on why they want it, what good it will bring for the ordinary voter and how is this good for the country they suddenly have nothing to say.

It was a vote that was a fuck you from the downtrodden.
I see the wish to position leavers as poor/hard-done-by/salt of the earth types and remainers as ELITES is strong on this thread .

The sheer stupidity of a group whose heroes are public schoolboys, JRM, Farage, Johnson et al, trying to paint the other half of the voting population as 'elite' is ridiculous and certainly doesn't fit the stereotype where I live, where the people with kipper flags and leave posters in their windows were the comfortably-off bungalow-dwelling, bowls-playing type with massive pensions and holiday homes in Spain.

By playing this game, you're positioning the majority of Londoners as 'elites. Have any of you actually been there? I don't mean doing a bit of sightseeing in the West End or Kensington High Street, I mean boroughs like Newham, Hounslow or the 'other' parts of the Borough of Kensington and Chelsea - eg North Kensington, where Grenfell Tower was - which is one of the most deprived areas of the country.

Splitting the country into Leave=downtrodden; Remain=Elite really is lazy thinking.

There will be no riots

Most remainers are naice middleclass people who have too much to lose and are not the riotting type anyway

They are keyboard warriors, not street fighters

Thankfully!

Most remainers are naice middleclass people who have too much to lose
And along comes Baby to prove my point. This is so hilarious.

The March will go one of two ways - fairly ‘peaceful’, a few kick offs and arrests then all back to normal OR it will be the biggest anarchist move since the Riots. I’ve done a lot of research and interviewed members of the public as part of my job. Quite a few remainers are actually jobless and some are criminals that are fixated on the idea that this country will do into a state of dispair with no money, means no money for them too!

That's a nice way of making the contradiction fit

Its exactly whats been happening

Plus i do like the word some

Splitting the country into Leave=downtrodden; Remain=Elite really is lazy thinking

Yes

Whole fucking threads full of it

Oh comments sbout 'the south' as if there are no deprived ares in the south

Yep. Same old tired rhetoric.

Looks like there will be unrest this evening.

The blockade people are selfish, childish and inconsiderate arseholes. What do they think they will achieve? Hope all the knobs taking part get arrested for driving dangerously (as you can drive too slowly, that's an offence just as speeding is). Good on the police of they do. As for the lorries planning to stop things going in and out of ports eg Dover. Hope they get arrested too. Madness.

I think that precarious employment and housing situations actually cause people to become more meek and obedient. We all feel like we have to tow the line to hang on to what little security we have.

Agreed.

Nothing has happened yet that’s why. Once people actually have something concrete perhaps we will get civil unrest. Or not.

There’s nothing Leavers can say as the vote went to Leave. Clearly “ we won get over it” is in response to a comment by a Remainers.If the vote gone Remain the reverse of now would be happening, Remainers would be saying “ we won get over it” and not justifying themselves. Of course there would be angry arguments about how half of the country were too stupid/ young to understand the bigger picture.

There’s nothing Leavers can say as the vote went to Leave. And yet they've moaned interminably ever since...

If Article 50 is suspended then I think we will see civil unrest.

if MP's don't respect their own decision to trigger Article 50 then there will be civil unrest.

The rise of far right ideology in areas that voted heavily to leave is really alarming in my view. these people wont be out marching on Saturday. And that worries me because exactly what are they planning to do?

My concern is what happened in the USA. Huge numbers of ordinary americans think he is a saviour and love him. The far right could so, so easily rise up here and it would happen very quickly.

It will be easier to deal with than the riots that will follow the collapse of the economy and social order.

How do you know for a fact that this will happen Chardonnay or is this your opinion?

How do you know for a fact that this will happen mummymeister or is this your opinion?

I think we could see civil unrest if we have a no deal situation. So we're fucked whatever happens basically. This is purely my opinion.

Yes, its my opinion. based on what I know about the EU, what I saw when I visited the USA recently and what I am seeing right now in my community. some of the rhetoric on facebook groups is frightening.

and yes "fucked whichever way " sums it up.

To answer the OP, if there was a shortage of chocolate people would fight over it.

I don't think there will be riots even on the scale of the poll tax one in 1990.

Let's not forget the Bear Factory Riots of 2018.

So I'm personally absolutely raging about Brexit.

But...

(A) Rioting won't resolve anything in my favour
(B) I have a mortgage to pay and can't afford a criminal record

Most of the sections of society likely to riot are either a specific sub-section of Leavers or don't give a shit about Brexit because they don't follow politics.

No offence to the OP, I think it's an eminently sensible approach - but read the linked thread just after this one. This is why there won't be unrest tomorrow - the protesters will be too busy looking forward to their nice Italian meal and continuing their weekend break:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3540296-where-to-eat-out-in-london

If there were to be riots, I think it would be when it's too late, after we crash out and people realise the experts were right. People here tend to do nothing unless they are directly affected.

Well the M5 blockade was 12 cars and a motorbike. They have been moved on.

The A30 blockade was stopped pretty quickly too, albeit with 5 miles of tailbacks.

The local news (Devon live) has been going nuts all day about potential description. As lots of people left work early the roads are actually pretty quiet.

What a snarky post, Witney. If someone's gone to the trouble to travel to London to march (presumably from quite a distance by the sound of it) why shouldn't they ask about where to get some "not too pricey" Italian food? Very poor attempt at trying to bolster the whole 'remainer/elite' nonsense.