is there a 2nd Netflix McCann thread?

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Sorry not aibu but I want to keep following it

But they woke up the night nefore according to the Macanns.

This and the idea the search would go on forever .

I keep thinking of Keith Bennett s mum searching for him literally right up until she died.

And I keep thinking of Ben Needham where lots of people covered for the man until he died and they came forward. People know. They just won’t say.

SevenSeasofRye the fact that you have just said that you "changed your mind having watched the Netflix series...then watched another documentary and changed it back again" shows how incapable you are of thinking for yourself. How funny - although not in a good way - that you can perform a complete 180 - twice - merely on the basis of a telly programme. It's actually pathetic.

FFS .

There's nothing pathetic about that. Documentaries are presentations of evidence in a programme format, of course they will shape opinions. Yes, they often have an agenda but to be honest the compete lack of clear answers about the McCann's guilt in either direction means that most sensible people will flit between several hypotheses in their minds. It's very difficult as humans to just think "we'll never know" so you believe one scenario over another based on which of the tiny scraps of evidence that exist are most compelling to you.

NameChanger not only is the evidence not overwhelming, there is literally no evidence that would hold up in a court of law. Don't you think the Portuguese police, who were under huge scrutiny would have charged the Mccanns at the time if there was overwhelming evidence?

Never understood this!

callme you don't do your argument favours by posting you tube videos created by random nutters. Kate was carrying cuddle cat around with her for months, it's a pale pink soft toy, of course it was dirty and needed washed after 70 days. It would no longer smell like Madeleine at that point

Actually I speak from experience (you can read any of my other posts if you don't believe me). My daughter died at 14 months, her cuddly toy I buried with her. Her all-in-one I slept with for 2 years, then I kept it in a suitcase with her stuff. 17 years ago and still not washed!

I'm very sorry to hear of your loss but not everyone is the same and that's the big issue here. People look at the way the McCanns behave and think "well I wouldn't do that so I'm suspicious of them."

I lost my mum last year in extremely shocking circumstances and you probably would have thought I was a sociopath. I deleted all of her text messages straight away, couldn't even bare to look at her photo. I went on holidays and nights out, I barely cried. Grief and shock are unique to each person.

On top of that I'd venture that something you're sleeping with isn't going to get as dirty as something you're carrying around publicly in a hot country for 70 days with a couple of toddlers in tow.

I have reported your post as well.

I don't know why you felt the need to report callme post pepperpot. There has always been speculation regarding the washing of the toy. Your words to a mother who is speaking about losing her 14 month old were horrible. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I am wondering who commissioned the Netflix series.

I don't regard the Portuguese Police's conclusion in this investigation as a 'lunatic conspiracy theory' Pepperpot. I would wager they are much more highly trained in investigative work and have had sight of much more evidence than any of us on here.

Your response to callme who is entitled to her own opinion is the only vile thing here.

I think Amaral was of the opinion that some pretty high up people had been involved. I don't agree that he made a mess of things. I think he arrived to a difficult situation re evidence and he's obviously very upset about the way he was removed from the case. There were some really odd pictures of Madeleine released as part of the efforts to keep her name in the news, including the make up photo - I can't imagine any family being happy to see that released given that they already suspected a paedophile was involved. None of it makes sense at all.

@diana I read, in a statement from one of the friends (which someone linked to on the first thread), that the door was left open because it was a sliding patio door that only locks from the inside. It wasn’t the main door to the appartment, but it was the one facing the pool so was closer to get to. In the statement it said the first few nights they locked up, but then had to walk all the way round to the back of the complex to get to the front door. After a while they began leaving the patio door unlocked because it was much easier to get to. It seems that this wasn’t the door that the kidnapper got in through, though. They got in through the shuttered window at the back of the complex. Presumably, if they’d gone through the door facing the pool, people from the restaurant would have been able to see them.

Being in someone elses appartment isn't illegal. An abductor who'd planned this would use the easiest route, hence the unlocked door. He could come up with any number of excuses for wandering off with Madeleine if he was seen.

Kolo, I think the window idea was pretty quickly discounted because there were no marks at all on the windowsill - maybe opened as a red herring but I think the patio door was established as the likely way in and out.

What were the weird things written in Kate’s book?

That (harrowing) passage of the book WAS concern for Madeleine.

(Which is her name. Not Maddie.)

It was the about the ONLY concern and it was weird.

NameChanger your posts are vile and disgusting and I have reported them.

A lot of their communication and how they present themselves has been weird.

That doesn’t mean they were responsible for her disappearance though.