Netflix Madeleine McCann

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AIBU to think that any coverage of her disappearance is a good thing. I watched two episodes of the Netflix programme and think that if it were to bring her back into the spotlight, then surely it’s worthwhile? I’m on my own in that opinion here in our house.

The previous night Madeleine had been seen by a neighbour crying for her parents

I've read pretty extensively and have never seen that @buddywoo, a neighbour heard a child crying on a previous occassion where did somone see her? I'm almost certain you are wrong, where are you getting your information. It would change everything we know if you can provide the police with proof that MM left the apartment on another night

What else could it mean though? Why bring it up time after time? People have asked the question thousands of times on MN alone why would she say she’d been taken.

Given what a lot of people think of the McCanns I don’t think it’s taking 2 + 2 and coming up with 10,000 personally. I just wish people would at least be honest in what they’re actually inferring here.

As I have already clarified, the comment referred to the children being left in the room alone.

I understand that. And it's not about context, as I never thought you were implying they'd done something worse, but the judgement about them having left them alone.
For the record, I wouldn't have done what they did (not sure why I feel the need to state that - probably to ward off the inevitable attack from all the perfect parents on here), but I do acknowledge that their arrangements for checking on the children at regular intervals was not any different from what Mark Warner (and other companies) offer with their baby-listening services. In fact, it was arguably better, as they were actually entering the apartments to check (usually). I think that anyone who has ever used one of those services is not really in a position to criticise the McCanns. There but for the grace of God...

On episode 4 so far. It seems heavily slanted towards the “Parents did it” theory 😡

Rumble it tends to go with different theories then looks at them afresh.

It balances out @Rumbletum2

There are a lot of threads but here’s the top 3 search right now. Did you just enter her name in the Reddit search it will bring up lots of threads, many of them including lists of evidence and links to that evidence. Plus any comments or ‘theories’ are usually backed up with evidence, so it makes for a better understanding of it all, I think.

www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/9w6g2u/the_dissapearence_of_madeleine_mccann_abduction/

www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/awyy1a/on_march_15th_netflix_will_be_releasing_their/

www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/9md4j2/did_tony_john_podesta_kidnap_madeleine_mccann/

Haven’t read the full thread.

I won’t lie, I had always assumed that the parents were in some way involved and I had heard the theory of them having sedated the children to ensure they stayed asleep and it was a theory I could buy into and one I thought had gone horribly wrong and ended in the accidental death of Maddie.

(I don’t know if I’m allowed to say that ok here? Apologies if not)

When I heard about this documentary not one part of me wanted to watch it because I felt it was in poor taste. However, whilst at work yesterday a lot of people were discussing it and so last night I decided to watch the first episode.

I was surprised at how far away the apartment was from the Tapas bar and I never have understood how they could leave their children unsupervised and I am even more shocked now I’m aware of the distance between the apartment and where they were dining. I cannot fathom how they thought checking on them every 15 minutes was sufficient. What if one of them had woken up, scared and alone? I can’t undersyand how anyone could think it was ok.

I admit I did find it strange when it was Kate’s turn to check on them and that man offered to go instead....why? And then to just listen outside the door but not actually go in? Why not?

This may have already been discussed on here but like I said o haven’t read the full thread but I plan to once my children are in bed tonight and I can look at it uninterrupted.

I definitely intend on watching the remaining episodes and I wonder how it affect my current view point.

I thought last nights episode was very balanced with no obvious judgement and blame which was good because it allows everyone to make their own interpretations of the facts.

I did find it odd though that they said at 4am the parents went to bed to try and get some sleep. If one of my children had been abducted from their bed in a foreign country (well, any country) then getting sleep would be the absolute last thing on my mind.

I admit that I have always found the whole thing very suspicious but I suspect that after watching the documentary I will be more inclined to believe the parents are innocent of any involvement. I hope the documentary will clear up a lot of the misconceptions and rule out myths and conspiracy theories that are usually based on people’s opinions and not facts (this is what my current take on the situation is based on anyway).

So yes, looking forward to watching the rest and seeing how my thoughts change (or don’t) based on what information the documentary brings to light.

Today 10:24 GreatDuckCookery

‘What else could it mean though? Why bring it up time after time? People have asked the question thousands of times on MN alone why would she say she’d been taken.

Given what a lot of people think of the McCanns I don’t think it’s taking 2 + 2 and coming up with 10,000 personally. I just wish people would at least be honest in what they’re actually inferring here’

Well, bottom line is, people speak for themselves; none of us are the thought police so it’s not our place to judge what anyone else might be thinking.

Personally as I’ve said already, I think it’s totally and utterly pointless to post about the fact the children were left alone because yes that happened; whether we would have left our own children or not doesn’t change that. It’s a waste of words for it to keep being repeated.

Likewise it’s pointless to comment on the initial reaction of the parents in the moment of shock at discovering the child was gone- because none of us can possibly know what we’d say or do.

What is far more significant is the fact that this case is treated so differently to all other cases of missing children, and that there are aspects which are being kept out of the public domain while at the same time, millions of pounds of public money is poured into the investigation. That’s what sits uneasily.

And it's not about context, as I never thought you were implying they'd done something worse, but the judgement about them having left them alone.

Of course context is important. I haven't judged the parents for leaving the children alone. My original comment was about the twins and how they had been affected by the disappearance. I said it would be difficult growing up with the world knowing what their parents had done (Leaving the children alone in the room). It's not a judgemental comment in that context, more how it could have affected them in their every day life.

You said These threads always reveal some pretty unpleasant people. How am I being unpleasant when i'm simply wondering how the twins have been affected by the disappearance of their sister.

Haven't RTFT so sorry if this has been covered and on episode 4 so maybe the series will explain it, but I can't find anything online to say what happened with the blood they found or what the dogs detected? Was it proven it wasn't actually Maddies blood/ dogs where unreliable source?
I remember reading something about how the DNA could have actually been the twins but can't seem to find what the actual conclusion was

On episode 4 so far. It seems heavily slanted towards the “Parents did it” theory

Keep watching further episodes. It throws an interesting light on the Portuguese Police and especially the chief investigator.

These threads always reveal some pretty unpleasant people.

I wasn't aiming that at you, specifically.

I wasn't aiming that at you, specifically.

It certainly seemed that way as you quoted me, however if this wasn't your intention then I understand. Things tend to get rather muddled when it's just words on a page.

@agirlhasnonameX

All the dogs did was to give an indication that blood was there or had been there. Whose blood /DNA that was was up to forensics.

The forensics was inconclusive basically.

It was always said that all dogs did was give an indication.

Without forensic evidence the dogs indication means nothing.

Going back to earlier in the thread it was never suggested that the children shared a toothbrush. That's just more bollocks. They wanted something from their home, ie the pillowcase, because things in the apartment were more likely to have been contaminated with the twins' DNA too.

With the high powered sex3 rings acting in Portugal it's not a mad leap to think police involved. Look at Stephen Lawrence.

Why did police become obstructive.

( I was on the last thread but I promise I will behave on this one )

Sure you will.

Does anyone else think Murat came across as having high functioning ASD ?

Here we go. No, I really don't, and my aspie Radar is pretty good.

Thank you.
So in the series when scientists report there is an 80% match, that turned out to be wrong since the tests where not finished or an 80% match is considered inconclusive?

That's was a 'misinterpreting ' by the Portuguese police.

As in the 80% match was complete nonsense to begin with? (Sorry )

As in the 80% match was complete nonsense to begin with? (Sorry )

No, it was an interim finding that the PJ misunderstood and leaked. 80% match isn't high enough to mean anything, especially as the whole family were using the car.

I have no idea whether the parents were involved , the manner the police handled it or any of the other legalities surrounding it. I know they made a mistake that they have paid for a million times over.
I could not imagine the desperation and the horror the McCann's have gone through, and feel incredibly sorry for their loss. I know that if she was my child I'd want the search to never stop.
But.
The amount of resources, time and money spent on this one missing child makes me wonder if other families with missing children have had their cases detracted from or less attention focused on their case due to the enormous public resources that have been allocated to this single case. Should the public continue to pay, and for how long? Over 11 million pounds has been spent on this one case by the end of 2108. There are so many missing children, and so many desperate families - do the British police spend that much money on each of them?Why are the McCanns being treated so differently ? Is it fair to continue to spend huge sums of money on someone who would be considered dead in absentia over 4 years ago?
Shitty thing to wonder but is it fair?

Kitty why do you think Murat has asd? As complete asides from threads.