To think teachers shouldn't be drinking on trips?

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Dc just back from trip overseas. Apparently as soon as they were in their rooms the teachers went to the hotel bar. (The kids snuck down to check on them so they could all go into each other's rooms).Were also drinking wine and cocktails at dinner (before walking kids around an overseas city for an hour to their hotel at 11pm)

Is this normal? In charge of 13yr olds?

And this is why teachers don’t volunteer to do anything extra anymore. Giving up a week of your time UNPAID and you can’t even have a drink or two.

Nothing wrong in that OP

Surely if they were touring round a dangerous city at 23.00- a glass of wine or not isn't going to make a difference to the possibility of attack? I'd be more concerned that was part of the itenerary than alcohol use amongst adults not being paid extra to be on a residential.

@TheZeppo
Were you there? How on earth do you know that they were all drinking

This!

Jeez. You weren't there, you have no idea if they were all having a drink or not. Even if some did have some wine or whatever, I doubt every single one was.
A glass of wine or two in an evening isn't a biggie. Unless you're going to massively dripfeed that they were standing on tables, singing karoake songs and chain slamming Jagerbombs or something?!
Sounds like they were in need of a chill, especially if the kids are being little brats running downstairs to spy on them to see if they're free to prat about in each others rooms!

I had this same situation recently. DD is 14 and mentioned the teachers were “drunk” I have to admit I was thinking is this allowed?? But after discussing it with her she seems fine about the whole experience and seems like no one was drunk, they had a couple of drinks. If someone was sick, falling over then I would have a different opinion but in the instance I’m fine with it.

So not one person agrees with you but you still think you are right. I'm bloody grateful that teachers give up their own time taking our kids away with them.

I hope all the people complaining have never had so much as a glass of wine in the evenings when their DC were in bed until said DC reach the age of 16, at least.

Good Grief.
Crucify them!

Unless you're going to massively dripfeed that they were standing on tables, singing karoake songs and chain slamming Jagerbombs or something?!

Sounds like my skiing trip in 1982

Also they might have had one glass each and my 11 yo and her mates would dramatise it up to being pissed out of your head. Especially if their mums were shocked

I remember going in a skiing trip age 14 and one of the teachers fell asleep in one of the bunk rooms with no trousers on because she was so drunk. Of course we all found it hillarious.

A couple of weeks ago I was away from my own Dcs ages 5 and 8 for 4 nights on a school trip abroad. Fun but completely exhausting. We had 40 students with us. It was in Belgium and a bottle of wine was provided on the teachers' table in the canteen each night by the hostel which was a purpose built lodge for school trips......anyway, we got back late on the Friday night and when we got off the coach and ONE parent said thank you. One, out of 40.

When you've taken 40 teenagers on a trip, been completely responsible for their welfare, dietary needs and medical care, filled in a mountain of paperwork and risk assessments, had zero sleep, given up your time voluntarily and not been paid a penny extra for it. And all the time knowing that you'll get jumped on by parents if the slightest thing doesn't go to plan, then and only then can you comment on a group of adults having a beer or glass of wine.
Until then, fuck off.

All the teachers drank

Where is your evidence for that? From a child who was already breaking the rules and probably knows you inside out so deflected any bollocking they may have got for their own bad behaviour onto the teachers because they know that you will always blame someone else?

Frankly the only person who should be in trouble here is your child, but given that you clearly are "that parent", I very much doubt that that will happen.

It's not 24/7 care if they're drinking though, is it? and all the teachers were drinking

Do you never ever have a drink when you are in charge of your own child OP? If so have you ceased to give them care?

How do you know ALL the teachers were drinking? I doubt I could tell exactly what was in everyone's glass from a quick look such as you have described.

Please tell us which "dangerous city" these children have been sent to....

Honestly this is so ridiculous.

When I went on a school trip to Germany, all the children were drinking too because we were legally able to drink beer and wine so long as we were with our teachers in a restaurant aged 13+. Clutch your pearls at that OP.

@OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow I wonder if we were staying in the same place?

Because, they aren't in charge of their own kids!

So go and supervise your own kids on your own dime.

What combat training do these teachers have that they are bodyguards whilst walking through a dangerous city at 11pm? Wheres the trip? Los Cabos?

One member of staff should be sober.

Reception staff on a trip to the park: not on.

KS4 trip during school holiday time while they can easily access emergency services without needed to drive. Meh.

Again, there is no evidence whatsoever that they were drinking alcohol. Presumably the little spies were some distance away or they'd have been spotted. And where else would the teachers sit together in a hotel but in the lounge bar? If they'd really wanted to get rat arsed they'd have gone to one of their rooms and drunk their smuggled in booze there, not paid hotel bar prices. After all they're teachers and don't get paid expenses.

and all the teachers were drinking

Oh cmon now, there is no way a 13 year old can tell that from a distance. No way at all,

You've no idea how many were drinking do you? You've just clutched at your arse cheeks and dived off the bed into your judgey pants.

And of course they can have a couple of drinks if they wish, that's very different to being drunk and disorderly. And as said, you've no idea how many of them were drinking or even how much.

So unclench. You're going to make a fool of yourself if you take this any further.

Waiting for the drip that the "dangerous city" was in fact London

Reported for being home to Billy Bullshit.

I run trips abroad and it never occurred too me to ask accompanying staff not to drink. I wouldn't ever expect any of them to be drunk, and they never have been. We know we are in charge of other people's children so we behave accordingly. I doubt I could get anyone to come if there were a ban on drinking!

I am surprised it is allowed.

I am a scout leader and we cannot have alcohol if there are scouts in the same property even if they are with a different group. So even if an all adult group are on a training course in the same hostel as a group of scouts and leaders the all adult group are not allowed to drink.

I was once a member of staff on a trip to Poland via Prague, with 120 students aged 12-18.
I drank some wine.