To think teachers shouldn't be drinking on trips?

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Dc just back from trip overseas. Apparently as soon as they were in their rooms the teachers went to the hotel bar. (The kids snuck down to check on them so they could all go into each other's rooms).Were also drinking wine and cocktails at dinner (before walking kids around an overseas city for an hour to their hotel at 11pm)

Is this normal? In charge of 13yr olds?

I run trips. We would have 1 or max 2 drinks and there’s always one designated person who doesn’t drink at all.

When we went on school trips the teachers always had a drink BUT like a PP said, there was always one teacher each night who stayed sober just in case.

I remember going to Paris in sixth form - we all went to bars, students and teachers together, and my lasting memory is my French teacher using the doorframe to hold himself up as he'd had one too many!

They're 13, not three. It's fine.

Our MAT's rule is zero alcohol on trips and visits. It didn't used to be and we'd have a drink or two with dinner as long as one adult per a certain number of kids didn't. That'd be when in a hotel where there were reps etc also looking after our group.
Trips are incredibly stressful and I think one drink (probably under drink drive limit) is fine.

Why have you let your child go on a trip to a dangerous city?

It's fine as long as they aren't drunk. You can't possibly know that every single one of them was drinking anyway. If a child snuck down to check on them, they can't tell that all teachers are drinking alcohol.

Where are they? Syria? South Sudan? Nigeria?

Oh come on OP, you must know you're being unreasonable. So you never have a drink around your kids? Your child snuck downstairs to check on his/her teachers to see if they could mess about upstairs when they weren't supposed to? You don't see anything wrong with that? You are being absolutely ridiculous. I've got a 21 year old who has been on many a school trip, enabled by her dedicated teachers giving up their own time to facilitate it. It never even crossed my mind to question their drinking habits. Thinking back to a school skiing trip I went on in Italy many many years ago, all the teachers (including nuns!), were all fairly merry every evening. We were well looked after, everybody came back home safe and sound. Currently, my 8 year old is still up because it's Friday. I have some wine and am thoroughly enjoying it. I am also a single parent. Shoot me.

I feel so sorry for teachers. So many parents judging and complaining. Teachers can’t drink, can’t have a quick fag outside the school gate, have suspect motives if they send a pupil a card. All these perfect parents who obviously live perfect lives.

I went on a geography field trip with my school, and the teachers took us all down the pub!

*spanieleyes 🌷don’t take it personally 🍹

Feel free to have a ‘Pick on Accountants’ night, but frankly, there’s not a lot to work with. We’re ‘boring’ and ‘charge too much’ 🤷🏻‍♀️ I think people will find it difficult to muster up too much froth 🤣*

My son's an accountant and I have to say, his work does seem to cause a little less controversy than mine!

I've just returned from a residential so am probably feeling a little tired and emotional at the moment ( and no, I didn't have a drink-only diet coke!)

Years ago soon after joining a new school I volunteered for a school trip, the head (who also came) banned mobile phones and alcohol for the whole, very long and stressful week 🙈
I didn’t volunteer again!

When I went on residential trips we drank. Sometimes two ( out of the 4) for a quick trip to the pub and then the other 2. Just long enough for a pint and packet of crisps.

Sometimes we’d sit in the kitchen of the YH and share a bottle. No silly drinking just a glass of wine and some toast.

I imagine many parents have a drink of an evening. Is this to be condemned too?

The original post seems somewhat unrealistic in its expectations of teachers.

I gave up my time for these, because I believed in their worth, and enjoyed them.

As we got back the majority of children said thank you. Very few parents did, even though we were around unloading the coach and checking that children were met safely.

Gawd, the poor teachers. Give them a break. They’re spending their free time looking after your dc. They’re adults. I’m sure they know their limits.

Maybe concentrate on telling off your dc for disobeying rules and sneaking down to spy on the teachers?

Literally this is just the final fucking sraw.
This week i have taught 27 hourrs of lessons , done a parents eve until 8 pm, surrendered 4/5 lunchtimes for clubs, student catch ups,
On the back of a student trip Friday night/ all day Saturday the previous weekend
I didn’t actually drink anything but if if i had wanted a drink in the hotel last Friday following a full weeks work, and a four hour drive to our destination and all students allegedly settled In their rooms then there is nothing wrong with this. Next time take your own bloody kids to the extra curricular stuff and I will have the weekend off.

I’m a HOD and I also run educational trips for a non school company occasionally. Most schools have a policy that at least one person is a non drinker each night. That’s quite standard. Does your child know they were drinking cocktails? I love a good mocktail partly because they look like cocktails but are cheaper and I don’t like gin, wine, beer or vodka (I do love a bourbon whiskey though!)

I’d be more concerned about a trip to a dangerous city!!! We can’t even get insurance to Morocco-where the heck did they go?

Jeez OP, you sound like as much as a killjoy as your tittle tattle of a DC.

Adults drink, get over it. A few glasses does not render a teacher incapable of dealing with a few bratty teenagers. They are used to them and frankly, what reasonable person would blame them?

I take it you (and, if you have one, your partner) maintain complete sobriety whenever your children are under your care or there is a possibility of them being under your care, i.e. if you don't have at least 2 backup carer options who are themselves completely sober in addition to the person(s) currently taking care of them?

I imagine your holidays are an absolute riot.

When my DD was on a trip to an Asian city it was fortunate the teachers did go to the bar they found my 14 year old quaffing a gin sling!

I don’t think the teachers had an easy time and they reacted in a very balanced and fair way.

I was informed on the return, she apologised etc to all concerned.

I didn’t question wether the teachers should have been in the bar,I presumed as intelligent adults they can partake of alcohol without getting legless.

I've recently experienced something like this. My 7yr old went on a 2 night residential with school. There was an uproar from parents because children were coming home saying they had seen the teachers drinking wine in the evenings. I didn't really see the issue, there were night staff on duty to keep an eye on the children overnight and as some have said I imagine they all deserved a glass of wine after spending the day running around after 40+ kids, it's also their choice if they want to be up at the crack of dawn with a hangover! I would normally have a glass or 2 of wine on a weekend (when I'm not pregnant) and my children are in bed as would most of the mums I'm sure that were demanding to see the headteacher the next Monday morning. It's a bit hypocritical. I'm sure that in the OP's scenario there would of been a teacher or 2 or some form of other responsible adult not actually drinking incase of any emergency given they were in a foreign country a long way from home. Just because they were all at the bar doesn't mean they weren't drinking coke or lemonade or non alcoholic beer does it?!

OP, you do know that teachers can leave the school premises and have a drink at lunchtime, don't you?

I learnt one of my now favourite drinking games as a TA on a school trip for a secondary school. Any kids coming to see us for any reason were told we were drinking ribena 🤷‍♀️

So from across a bar your child can spot that every teachers glass contains alcohol - some skill that!

@Rosieposy4 I just want to tell you that I couldn't be more appreciative of my children's teachers and everything they do for them. My eldest is at uni now and my youngest in Year 3. They have both been exceptionally fortunate to have been taught by such a dedicated bunch over the years. I couldn't do it, so hats off to you. Go get pissed

RippleEffects , you have to question what kind of environment they're being raised in if a 13 YO is apparently so adept at spotting alcohol.

So, was every single teacher accompanying the teenagers absolutely shitfaced, or did some of them have a single glass of wine, or do you not have a clue which of the two it was?