To have left DS asleep in the car?

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Today I took DS (14 months) swimming. The pool is only a two min drive from school so I thought he'd make it and then could nap after but the poor little thing was absolutely exhausted and snoring by the time I arrived at school. I parked in the school car park and waited until I saw children from my DDs class leaving, then sprinted to get her leaving DS in the car. The car was out of my sight for less than 30 seconds. WIBU?

@NunoGoncalves like @Eatmycheese said it could be "anything", you know that awful "anything" could happen.............but actually nothing will happen.

YANBU it's absolutely fine and best all round for everybody.
I think the world has gone a little bit crazy to be honest when it comes to things like this.

I dont see a problem, when we pull up as im in a wheelchair and its easier for DH to walk DS up, I often get handed a bbay or asked to watch the car nwxt to us with sleeping baby.

I think that's fine. its not as if a 14mo would be able to start the car, or take a handbrake off, thereby putting himself in danger.

Technically it is a safeguarding risk. The TA has a legal duty to report it.
I personally wouldn’t do it - it takes seconds for someone to take them. However it would be different if you can actually see the car! And I highly doubt that it was 30 seconds...I’ve never seen a school where you can park that close.

@Eatmycheese

You come across as completely irrational. You're more concerned about your parenting being scrutinised than actually exposing your child to risk. You can't actually identify any significant risk you're incurring by leaving a sleeping baby in the car you're just worried about being judged.

There is nothing unethical about leaving a baby in a car. That's ridiculous - do you even understand what that word means? Of course it's to do with probability. The probability of something bad happening to the baby by being left in a car Vs taking it with you. That is literally the only consideration. If there is no significant risk there is no reason to judge a parent.

Basically you're argument is that you have it in your head that leaving a baby in a car for a few seconds is socially unacceptable (you don't know why it just is as far as you're concerned). You're incapable to actually rationally reflecting on this belief you just say it exists so even if it poses no actual risk it's still somehow inherently wrong for a reason you can't articulate. Of course people are going to call you out for being irrational because you are!

Out of all the risks, someone taking a baby from a locked car, is probably the lowest, especially in the circumstances described.

It's not a safeguarding risk, as the child is at no significant risk of harm. There would be no duty to report this.

Technically it is a safeguarding risk. The TA has a legal duty to report it.

How is it a safeguarding risk? Next you’ll be telling us she needs to report if she hears of a parent taking her children to McDs... providing children with food that’s too salty or fatty is not providing your child with ideal nutrition. If you aren’t providing your child with an ideal nutrious diet, that’s technically a safeguarding risk! I’m sure SS would be wanting to hear about that too

@oakenbeach I’m certain she’s bullshitting about the 30 seconds. Having your child locked in a vehicle that’s out of your sight with nobody else supervising is a safeguarding risk. I’m a designated safeguarding officer.
I’m sure the MASH will explain to her.

@oakenbeach I’m sure you’re the kind of parent that makes the McCanns look good!

@Sarahrellyboo1987 if you don't believe the op then fuck off! And your McCann jibe is as vile as you are....

This thread is utterly ridiculous

Completely reasonable. Not sure it's any risk at all. What about leaving in another room at home for 30 seconds, parents that wont leave their kids at all where does that end up? What about bed time, all alone in a bedroom, what if someone broke in and took them? What about letting your child ride a horse as they get older? Not safe, but they love it.

I actually had a postman call the police on me for this, who in turn called social services! My DD was in my car, directly outside my home, visible from where I was inside and down a drive that I could see the full length of from our open-plan living/kitchen space.

That said, this was the only time I had ever done it & I never left either of my girls in public but only because if they woke up and I wasn't there, I'd die from guilt... They were horribly delicate wakers. Still are!

YANBU, I do think the staff member that made a comment was bold.

To everyone who laughs at me and pats me on the head: get on with it

I will, never have and never would leave a sleeping baby in my car out of sight in a public place to get another of my kids from school.

I think those of you that do would or have are negilient, lazy, just not convenient parents
I don’t care if you disagree
I don’t care if you laugh at me
I don’t even care if you’ve gone to the extent of quantifying the risk involved in doing it.

None of that means a thing to me
If you want me to keep iterating this then I can. Otherwise just stop.

@Tubeworker hear hear. Totally with you.

Some of you are really OTT risk averse unless you live in a very dodgy area.
I used to leave DS asleep in his car seat whilst I nipped into Tesco Costa for a take away coffee.
I can’t imagine waking him up and taking him inside the shop to pay for petrol. He survived and is 10 now.

YANBU in fact it’s probably more dangerous getting them out and crossing roads with a grumpy kid. I do this at petrol stations regularly—they’re protected by a lot more when in the car, especially in a car seat than not. Even if they wake up, the worst thing that could happen is that they cry for a bit.

I lock the car of course!

I don’t think this is unreasonable.

Like someone said it’s no different to paying for fuel.

I have left baby asleep in the car outside my house (car on the driveway) if she has fallen asleep and i check on her every 5 minutes. Sometimes i do go and sit in the car with her while she sleeps. I’ve also gone in a shop to buy some bread while she’s been asleep in the car outside. I must add it is a small shop and i can see the car from the shop. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do!!

Hover over your own kids if you must, but don't accuse the rest of us of child neglect and report us to Social Services. Ok? Then we'll see whose kids turn out best. Different parenting styles, neither puts the child at any significant risk.

I love that Eat keeps coming on, telling people.not to call them names, then called people names, then leaves again.

I used to do it. Like that run down for school child while baby sleeping in car in school car park. I got berated once by my neighbour (an old one whose known me since I was little) Christmas eve I'd run into the chemist for 5 mins parked direct outside & viewable. My 2 & 4 yr old awake in car. She was shouting saying she could report me i said happy Christmas n walked off. She's a cranky so n so. Her daughter in laws kids in our school n she used to leave up to 3 kids in car while she ran down to pick up her oldest from school! I don't give two hoots what she thought or anyone else for that matter & am always very suspect of preachers like this woman. There are genuine neglect cases out there why not go after those.

Definitely not ok.

See link to this car fire in Tesco supermarket with 2 children inside.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6799007/Hull-mothers-Renault-Scenic-car-burst-flames-car-park-forced-choose-child-save.html

There was also a case a couple of years ago where 2 children died in a car fire outside their house where they had been left sleeping. The car had just burst into flames. I can’t people people still do this when the dangers have been publicised.