To Think Remainers Are Starting To Get Really Angry About Brexit?

[KennDodd]

I can feel the mood among Remainers, both IRL and online changing.

The sainted Tim Wetherspoon was trying to argue last night that the Leave vote in the referendum meant 52% of the population . Nice try, you wanker.

tonsils i am fairly new on this thread today but i am amazed by the attitude of some posters and their attitude that 'leavers are uneducated in their writing style' good grief, i did not realise one required years at university studying the queens' english to have half a brain cell.
i speak in a 'home counties' voice but i write in a simple way on mn as i do not feel the need to show off my uni education to strangers.
people who look down their noses at the less /uneducated are being narrow minded and prejudiced, to my mind it's akin to saying you are thick because you come from blah, or your skin is blah.

52% of people who voted.
We all know that.
If people couldn’t be bothered to vote that’s their look out.

More people VOTED to leave than remain.

Therefore. Leave won.
It’s pretty easy to understand.

I know that (yawn). You won. Get over it

Most that I know are still in the cycle of self righteous self indulgent grief. Very unattractive. I’d prefer anger to the bloody sulking.

@Surferjet, it wasn’t a football match

What isn't reasonable is the implication that more than 50% of the population are poorly educated, ignorant racists or incapable of making an informed decision.

I think you mean 37% of the electorate.

You might be disproving your own point there

Is it not reasonable to assume that, as such a significant proportion of the population voted (more so than in general elections) that this is representative of the UK population as a whole.

I'll add two points to this. Yes, we could both run off and find speculative articles in the press to support what 'could have happened' had everyone voted.

Also, if we 'assume' (which we shouldn't) that more non-voters would have voted remain, are we to believe that someone who is apathetic enough not to bother going to the polls would have done sufficient reading to make an informed decision anyway.

52% of people who voted.
We all know that.

Evidently not.

Oh im happy to admit that leave won

At the moment with the government playing silly buggers it feels like the shittist lucky dip prize ever...

But yay!

Is it not reasonable to assume that, as such a significant proportion of the population voted (more so than in general elections) that this is representative of the UK population as a whole.

Nice try.

No you can’t extrapolate 37% of the electorate to 52% of the population.

I'm so fed up of the whole leavers are stupid, uneducated rubbish. People angrily declaring how awful everything is and how terrible we will be once we've left. I understand all of those sentiments but, no one actually knows for sure what will happen until
It happens. The whole doom and gloom mentality is really wearing, the UK doesn't have any balls just a group of moaners who are happy to get their pitch forks out but don't want to do anything to make changes for the better.

Our government has so much to answer for and the public have turned against each other so we are now a divided nation. Beautiful. What a way to live. We are a bloody embarrassment.

If you read through this thread it seems that people are angry that

We had the referendum at all
That an advisory referendum was acted upon
How much money this has all cost
What the MPs are doing
That we are 2 weeks away with no deal agreed
That although the majority of people who voted voted leave, that actually the majority of the population would have voted remain if only they had bothered to vote

None of the above is the fault of those who voted leave.

Some of it (maybe most of it) is actually the fault who voted conservative, on the basis that they would give a referendum, act on the result. Said conservative government then abided by an advisory referendum, then invoked A50 with no idea how to negotiate the issues involved, have failed abysmally to handle the entire process in a professional manner, have limped on despite the party focussing more on jostling for position within the party.

Why do I never see any vitriol directed at people who actually voted for the party who started this off in the first place?

I suspect because the answer to that is that most of most vocal remainers are actually Tory voters.

No you can’t extrapolate 37% of the electorate to 52% of the population.

Not with 100% accuracy of course but what's the alternative? Unless you force everyone to vote (which is actually likely to throw up a more random result anyway as some people will have give ZERO thought to how to vote) you can only work of the, pretty huge, representative sample.

I'm not some smug Leaver, running around shouting "We Won!" as there wasn't a prize to 'win'. I just don't understand this constant need to try and justify why the result was somehow 'wrong'.

I suspect because the answer to that is that most of most vocal remainers are actually Tory voters.

Makes a change from being called left wing Corbynistas. Which is normally what happens.

Fuck off. Never voted Tory in my life.
Nice goading.

'jeremy corbyn for pm' fans on here ? now that really would be an uneducated choice.

And Corbyn is a useless twat.
Which party am I supposed to vote for?

Fuck off. Never voted Tory in my life.
Nice goading.

Did I say you did? I said most not all.

Spend some time out of your echo chamber. Most people on here who are vocally against Leave are Tory hating/Corbyn despairing.

i know people who didn't vote as they weren't sure either way. had they voted remain may have gained more votes but then leave could have been much further ahead.
as someone quite rightly pointed out up thread it's sad that the nation is so divided over something we do not know the outcome off as of yet.

Spend some time out of your echo chamber. Most people on here who are vocally against Leave are Tory hating/Corbyn despairing.

Again where did I say people on here?

And many people,now, are despairing but that's not the point. How did they vote in the GE? Not how will they vote in future.

I was being polite. Corbyn is not and never has been loved by most Remainers on here.because he's a useless twat.

I’m not justifying whether the result was right or wrong.

Merely that 37% of the electorate is not equivalent to 52% of the population.

Merely that 37% of the electorate is not equivalent to 52% of the population.

But no vote is won by more than 50% of the population because 100% of the population aren't eligible to vote.

Elections aren't even usually won by 50% or more of those eligible to vote and in the case of GE the winning party doesn't even get 50%of the votes cast.

It's usually the case that more voters didn't vote for the winning party. Do you expect those results to stand though?

I think the point being made is that a clear minority of the population are dragging the rest along with them, whether they want it or not.