Man doing my pedicure

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I'm having a rubbish day so maybe am being super sensitive but not sure. There is a nail bar I regularly go to. A few men work there but it's mainly women. Usually one of the women does my pedicure. I have had one or two of the men do it in the past too.

Anyway, am currently getting one done by a man and I'm feeling really uncomfortable. I can't explain why. Maybe because he is slow and so every touch feels like it's lasting ages but I'm not enjoying it.

Is it unreasonable to specify a woman does it in future?

@JessicaWakefieldSVH what's an MRA and what's NAMALT?

Oh I think you know

You literally wrote Men’s behaviour is the cause of this. BLAME THEM then got upset when I said that I thought you had a hatred of men. I am not a MRA. I am part of a huge organisation fighting for equality. I want a better future for my son so that when he walks down the street people don't just assume he will hurt them or rape them. Did you know that someone told me it was a shame he was a black male? Their reason was that people will always cross the street to get away from him. He's 2. He is already condemned

No I genuinely don't! I'll go google?

I wish people stopped giving safety concerns as a reason of women having boundaries with men. I am pretty sure most men are safe and don't have any sinister intentions. I may still prefer not exposing myself to men and not letting them touch me. Why do you think in airports body search is performed by same-sex officers? Obviously no male officer is going to do anything wrong in a professional setting with so many people around. This rule does acknowledge the preference to physical boundaries. And this preference is absolutely legitimate.

Jessica put your pitchfork down.

I have a son too. I'm raising him not to think it's sexist that women have boundaries.

Men’s behaviour is the cause of this. BLAME THEM

Yes I did. It’s accurate. Too many men abuse and harass women. That’s also accurate. Replying with #notallmen is an attempt to dismiss and minimise the harm. I’m not going to engage in a conversation with someone who is insisting women setting boundaries around physical touching is an attack on ‘all men’. It’s vile.

I have had men do my pedicure but I wasn't bothered as they wear plastic gloves (so do the women).

I am pretty sure most men are safe and don't have any sinister intentions.

How do we know which ones do?

NAMALT - agree they're not!

MRA - I get that now.

You do come across as genuinely disliking all men @JessicaWakefieldSVH, maybe due to your history.

You do come across as genuinely disliking all men @JessicaWakefieldSVH, maybe due to your history.

I mean you just get worse in your victim blaming. I’m married to a man. I have close Male friends. I am not hateful because I don’t want men I don’t know giving me massages or smear tests. That’s not hate.

2nd rule of misogyny- Women saying no to men is a hate crime

PPs saying a man can give as good a pedi as a woman is missing the point. OP if you feel uncomfortable with it you can request a woman, that's your choice.

I'm sure men are just as good gynaes as women but I always choose a woman for these types of appointments as I wouldn't be comfortable with a man. It's no different. Your body, your opinion, your choice.

2nd rule of misogyny- Women saying no to men is a hate crime

^ this

A popular animal rescuer, Male, has made the point in several of his rescues that he often has to get a female to rescue dogs because they’re afraid of him due to the fact most animal abusers are men. So they consider this, and do what’s best for the animal and have a female attend. The rescuer never takes it personally, never questions or makes it about him. Are the dogs guilty of a hate crime?

Also agree it’s not just about abuse, sometimes it’s just comfort and people wanting members of the same sex for certain things.

Look, we disagree. You clearly won't see things from my POV and I won't see them from yours. I don't agree with tarring all men with the same brush. I don't agree with blaming all men for the crimes of others. I don't see how we will ever achieve equality if we do that.

I don't expect many dogs are as intelligent as people. He's also rescuing a presumably frightened and potentially dangerous animal. OP was having a pedicure.

Do you believe women should have the right to refuse a smear test from a man Bianca?

I believe they should have the right.

So women can’t be frightened of men touching them? It’s just hate? Intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with this! My goodness.

So you believe they should have the right, you just think exercising it is preventing ‘equality’. Right, ok...

Good, so does the NHS.

Good, so does the NHS

Good, so do I.

You also think women who do hate all men.

Good, so do I.

So wanting explanations why was just for kicks then?