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To think that you don't walk into a vegan cafe with a Mcdonald's burger in your hand

236 replies

TapasForTwo · 10/03/2019 09:48

Had a lovely lunch yesterday at a bar that sells outstandingly good vegan food (I'm not vegan, but the food is insanely good).

As we were walking out DD asked if I had seen a family walk in with one of the children holding a Mcdonald's burger in their hand.

a) It is rude to bring your own food into a café anyway
b) It is breathtakingly rude to bring meat into a vegan café!

This place sells the most amazing chips, so they could easily have bought this child the chips instead of a McDonald's.

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goldengummybear · 10/03/2019 14:42

Am I allowed to go in wearing leather shoes?

Whizbang · 10/03/2019 14:44

Blimey. How about you and your daughter keep your beak out of what other people choose to eat. Absolutely none of your business. YABU.

JassyRadlett · 10/03/2019 14:44

What must these angry housewives be lacking in life to jump onto these threads.

I think what may be lacking from their lives is shallow vapid sexism as demonstrated by this comment.

They’re probably better off, tbh, even if I do think they’re wrong about taking food purchased elsewhere into cafes.

JassyRadlett · 10/03/2019 14:45

Maybe they were getting take out?

OP, have you cancelled the cheque?

goldengummybear · 10/03/2019 14:49

I think McDonalds chips are veggie these days. Would that be ok?

zwellers · 10/03/2019 14:52

Joyfullittlehippo just about every Chinese or Indian restaurant I have ever been in serves one or two English food options. For the reasons outlined above. Nothing dodgy about it, good business practice.

JassyRadlett · 10/03/2019 14:53

I think McDonalds chips are veggie these days. Would that be ok?

To take into a place that makes and sells chips, and relies on customers paying for food and drink to pay rent and wages?

No.

goldengummybear · 10/03/2019 14:58

I'm assuming that the child with the burger might have had a Happy MeL. I know that you can replace the chips with veg sticks but maybe the chips were part of that meal iyswim.

IncrediblySadToo · 10/03/2019 15:03

I’m vegetarian (I was vegan, I still don’t buy leather etc but I do eat some dairy). Not that it’s terribly important to this 🤣

A child bringing a McDonads burger into any cafe/bar wouldn’t bother me, even if I owned it. I’d assume he’d been promised it but the parents would rather eat elsewhere 🤷🏻‍♀️ and yes, they could sit in McD’s and wait, but it’s not a big deal to take it with them and all eat together.

Morally, I would rather no one ate meat ever. However, on a day to day basis I don’t care what other people eat as long as they just get on with it and don’t arse around wafting it in my face saying I don’t know what I’m missing out on etc.

One child with a burger. FGS.

TapasForTwo · 10/03/2019 15:06

"Blimey. How about you and your daughter keep your beak out of what other people choose to eat. Absolutely none of your business. YABU."

This old chestnut. If everyone on mumsnet minded their own business there wouldn't be much to talk about on here. Do you never make observations on anything that other people do? And you have completely missed the point about taking food into restaurants. Or do you do this all the time?

I have cancelled the cheque Jassy Grin

And for the record I was wearing leather boots yesterday, and was carrying a leather handbag Grin

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joyfullittlehippo · 10/03/2019 15:20

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sagradafamiliar · 10/03/2019 15:23

Lifelong vegan and I couldn't care less.

TapasForTwo · 10/03/2019 15:27

Interesting that the vegans who have posted on this thread couldn't care less. So where are these rampant vegans force feeding plant food into the carnivores then? Grin

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Whizbang · 10/03/2019 15:34

Oh I see OP. My apologies...I did not realise that you and DD had a stake in the cafe and therefore a legitimate interest in policing what people are holding in the hands as they walk in. I thought you were just customers with nothing better to do than creepily monitor other customers and then come online to bitch about them because you have nothing better to do. My mistake.

TapasForTwo · 10/03/2019 15:38

Wow Whizbang
Someone got out of the wrong side of bed this morning

You are so angry.

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joyfullittlehippo · 10/03/2019 15:40

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Yabbers · 10/03/2019 15:43

@joyfullittlehippo

I bet any money if the OP had replaced "vegan" with "Chinese" or "Italian" or any other kind of restaurant, almost every post would be agreeing that it's U to go into a restaurant, sit down, and pull out a McDonalds.
I disagree. If the OP had posted about someone taking a burger into any restaurant, most would have answered with their opinions on whether bringing food into somewhere which sells food is acceptable.

The OP was actually about whether bringing meat into a vegan place was a particular problem. Would she have posted if the child had been eating a bag of cucumber sticks? I think not.

Crappygilmore · 10/03/2019 15:44

Ce la vie i say. If vegans can play audio of animals being slaughtered in restaurants i say fuck it. After all they call it a happy meal for a reason.

Whizbang · 10/03/2019 15:44

Not really OP. Just baffled by people who refuse to live and let live such as yourself. Have a lovely day Smile

IamPickleRick · 10/03/2019 16:10

Interesting that the vegans who have posted on this thread couldn't care less.

So why do you care? You aren’t vegan, didn’t see the burger in question, and were wearing leather in a vegan outlet. Why is it ok to wear the meat but not eat it in front of vegans Confused

Amanduh · 10/03/2019 16:25

Why would anyone care? Small child, family buying stuff in a cafe, vegan or not as if anyone could actually give a stuff.

Spiderbanana · 10/03/2019 16:36

I am vegan too. I have never tried to guilt or shock people into veganism. My kids all eat meat and my DH too and I cook it for them, alongside vegan food.

It is rude to bring your own food into any restaurant without a valid reason. However, I like the fact that despite the fact that this child may well only want to eat a burger, his parents are exposing him to vegan food, even if it is just by watching them eat it.

I never ever pressure my kids but they have asked to try quite a bit of my food.

I have seen the aggressive protests and I don't think they are fair or effective. I network with a group of vegans and we share ideas, recipes and experiences. We have our own reasons and don't really talk about it. We certainly don't see it as our mission to convert people or to make them feel bad for making different choices.

WarpedGalaxy · 10/03/2019 16:40

Not cool to take your own food into a restaurant no matter what kind of restaurant or food and many dont allow it for the simple reason they are in the business of selling their own food.

Have to agree with PPs that, since OP’s main bone of contention is not the rudeness of doing the above and more the fact that it was taking a meat product into a vegan restaurant, it’s a case of pot kettle black. You were wearing leather, you dont get to claim the moral high ground and you don’t get to criticize others when you were being equally insensitive to the ethos of the establishment in question.

Honeyroar · 10/03/2019 16:47

I’ve never met a ranting, lecturing vegan (I’m only veggie), but I’ve met a lot of meat eaters that felt
It necessary to lecture me (bit like a few posters on here), “there won’t be any cute baby lambs if we all gave up meat” or “you wear leather anyway so what’s the point” etc. Some people seem to like to feel better about themselves not doing anything by criticising those doing a bit. I also feel that people banging on about how they’re happy to flaunt burgers in vegan’s faces because they’re sick of militant vegans are just as bad as the militant vegans.

TapasForTwo · 10/03/2019 17:24

Touche WarpedGalaxy Grin

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