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AIBU or is this a MAJOR safeguarding issue?

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Whatthefudgeisthis · 08/03/2019 03:40

NC for this,

I’ve been absolutely stunned at the ignorance shown by the organisers with this one! A naturist night at the water park 😱 this place is designed for kids entertainment, it’s basically loads of water slides a wave pool and play area etc
Who in their right mind would take a child to such an event. Obviously I’m not shooting down naturists, each to their own, but this is an event that ANYONE can attend. Known paedophiles have attended these events, with one saying that he can’t even swim. What the actual fuck is going on? Who thought this one up?
If adults want to swim naked that’s their call, but why open the event to children too?

I’m pretty sure I’m not the one missing the blindingly obvious here, but I’m so amazed at the stupidity I had to share and maybe raise some awareness.

www.stokesentinel.co.uk/whats-on/family-nude-swimming-session-coming-2589946

These events are being held across the country, so there’s possibly one near you.

OP posts:
RockyFlintstone · 08/03/2019 13:02

You make it sound like they have to be naked, like it's a disability or something!

eyeswideshit · 08/03/2019 13:03

*Why should naturists miss out on a day at the water park, just because it makes you feel uncomfortable?

Why can't the naturists just put a swim suit on if they want to go to the water park that bad?! 😂*

Why should they have to?

Huskylover1 · 08/03/2019 13:06

Surely this gives kids mixed messages? On the one hand, you must not show an adult your genitals, if they ask you to....on the other hand, it's absolutely fine to show your genitals to hundreds of adults at the pool. And mummy and daddy will show their genitals too, yay!

How on earth are children supposed to make sense of this?

I've never understood though, how men and women can mix in naked, and not be continually turned on. Naked for me is a very sexual thing.

Comefromaway · 08/03/2019 13:08

Wheras I find the sight of a naked body a right turn off.

clairemcnam · 08/03/2019 13:10

Being naked in water feels great.
This is not an event aimed at kids. It is an event where parents can bring kids. If it was actually aimed at kids it would be at a different time of the day.

eyeswideshit · 08/03/2019 13:10

*Surely this gives kids mixed messages? On the one hand, you must not show an adult your genitals, if they ask you to....on the other hand, it's absolutely fine to show your genitals to hundreds of adults at the pool. And mummy and daddy will show their genitals too, yay!

How on earth are children supposed to make sense of this?*

I would think they understand bodily autonomy; that their body belongs to them and that no one is allowed to do anything to you that you don't want. Their understanding of human bodies would be much greater too, so if anything untoward did happen, they would be able to explain it much better.

Meandmetoo · 08/03/2019 13:10

"Its a naturist event which children are allowed to attend. I wouldn't say it is aimed at children. I love watersides, as I'm sure lots of other adults do, so I don't see the connect between swimming pool and child-centered. Why should naturists miss out on a day at the water park, just because it makes you feel uncomfortable?"

Naturists having fun at a waterpark doesn't me me feel uncomfortable.

Normalising this by holding it in a typically children's environment (however much fun they are for adults), anyone being able to attend whether in a family or not, and weirdos being able to hang out with naked children does though. Im a bit funny like that Hmm

Much lolz at the image of poor naturists never being able to go to a waterpark because they have to cover their fanny's and dangly bits. Next someone will say it's discrimination for swimsuits to have to be worn at all Grin

JaneEyre07 · 08/03/2019 13:12

Our local pool used to have a naturist swim. We had booked the session before them and were under very strict instructions to have cleared the changing rooms within 20 minutes of the party ending. We did think it was odd that the staff were covering the windows with tarpaulins........

I have no issues with people wanting to swim naked, why not - but I did feel a little concern over the young children that made up part of the club. Most of the members appeared to be men over 70.........

I think we are getting better at teaching children about their rights to their bodies but can't help but feel we're muddying the waters when exposing them to naked strangers........... it wouldn't be my choice as a parent.

Huskylover1 · 08/03/2019 13:12

Also, for people saying it's safe, because children will be with their parents....you do realise, that many paedophiles abuse their own children and you wouldn't have a clue if a child was being forced to go to this event, because they are abused and scared shitless of their parents, and would never speak out.

This is child abuse in plain sight, in my opinion.

An adult wanting to feel water in his nether regions, does not trump the need to be absolutely certain that children aren't at risk here. And the only way to be sure, is not to host such events.

eyeswideshit · 08/03/2019 13:12

I've never understood though, how men and women can mix in naked, and not be continually turned on. Naked for me is a very sexual thing.

I find clothes much more sexual than a naked body.

Treaclesweet · 08/03/2019 13:12

Oh my lord can we just let go of the pearls for five seconds!

Naturism is a right. Nudity does not always have to be sexual. Children are capable of understanding many complex things I'm sure they can understand this. No one seems to have any evidence whatsoever that naturism has anything to do with paedophoillia.

Ribbonsonabox · 08/03/2019 13:14

@Treaclesweet totally agree.

Chouetted · 08/03/2019 13:15

@Huskylover1 The Victorians found ankles very sexual. They would presumably have been just as baffled as you at the idea of men and women mixing with their ankles exposed.

I find your association of nakedness with sexual things rather creepy, if I'm honest.

RockyFlintstone · 08/03/2019 13:16

Much lolz at the image of poor naturists never being able to go to a waterpark because they have to cover their fanny's and dangly bits. Next someone will say it's discrimination for swimsuits to have to be worn at all

I know right! What an infringement on human rights! If it weren't for these lifesaving naturist sessions at the water park, these people would have to actually cover their cocks and fannies to go down those slides. It's unthinkable really.

Huskylover1 · 08/03/2019 13:16

Where do you draw the line too?

Naked Ball Pit events?

Naked parents night?

Naked Alton Towers Day?

Naked Children's Parties?

Naked Family pubs?

What's the difference? As long as the parents attend too. Right?

Comefromaway · 08/03/2019 13:17

Its interesting that the people against this are the ones using words that are generally deemed to be more vulgar rather than the correct matter of fact anatomical terms.

Makes me think they are the ones with the sexual problem not the naturists.

eyeswideshit · 08/03/2019 13:18

*Also, for people saying it's safe, because children will be with their parents....you do realise, that many paedophiles abuse their own children and you wouldn't have a clue if a child was being forced to go to this event, because they are abused and scared shitless of their parents, and would never speak out.

This is child abuse in plain sight, in my opinion.

An adult wanting to feel water in his nether regions, does not trump the need to be absolutely certain that children aren't at risk here. And the only way to be sure, is not to host such events.*

When I searched I couldn't find any evidence of child sexual abuse occurring at a BN event. There is however lots of evidence that shows children are abused by their own parents. From that then, should we remove all children from their parents, to protect them?

You wouldn't know if an abused child was taken to a normal swim session by their paedophile parents. Naturism has nothing to do with it.

Huskylover1 · 08/03/2019 13:19

I find your association of nakedness with sexual things rather creepy, if I'm honest

Well, er, most people have sex when naked, and find the opposite sex appealing in the nude. I love the male form. How on earth is that "creepy"?

Huskylover1 · 08/03/2019 13:21

You wouldn't know if an abused child was taken to a normal swim session by their paedophile parents. Naturism has nothing to do with it

It's not exactly helping though, is it?

eyeswideshit · 08/03/2019 13:21

Where do you draw the line too?

Why does there have to be a line drawn?

Comefromaway · 08/03/2019 13:21

I think you will find a lot of people do not find the opposite sex naked in the nude. Its more about touch and emotional attachment than the sight of dangly bits which to be frank are quite ugly.

RockyFlintstone · 08/03/2019 13:22

Children are capable of understanding many complex things I'm sure they can understand this.

Um, no. That is why the NSPCC etc does (or did anyway until the whole 'a boy can get changed with the girls if he says he is a girl' thing) quite a lot of work on sending a very clear and easy to understand message to children about boundaries with their bodies.

No one seems to have any evidence whatsoever that naturism has anything to do with paedophoillia.

No one is saying that naturism has anything to do with paedophilia. This is about

a) paedophiles using this 'open to anyone' event as a way of access to getting kicks
And more importantly
b) the message that children are sent when they are told that what's in their pants is private whilst also being taken along to events where they are naked and all the adults around them are naked, and whether that would affect their ability to voice discomfort in an environment where this is normalised.

Still don't understabd why kids need to be involved in 'naturism'.

RockyFlintstone · 08/03/2019 13:23

Why does there have to be a line drawn?

Could you expand on this please? (Urgently!)

Huskylover1 · 08/03/2019 13:24

than the sight of dangly bits which to be frank are quite ugly

I'll never understand this, I don't find men's bodies ugly at all!

Why does there have to be a line drawn?

You're proving my point there. Confused

TalkinPaece · 08/03/2019 13:25

Thongs and budgie smugglers leave little to the imagination.
I really see little difference between that and this event.

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