AIBU or is this a MAJOR safeguarding issue?

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NC for this,

I’ve been absolutely stunned at the ignorance shown by the organisers with this one! A naturist night at the water park 😱 this place is designed for kids entertainment, it’s basically loads of water slides a wave pool and play area etc
Who in their right mind would take a child to such an event. Obviously I’m not shooting down naturists, each to their own, but this is an event that ANYONE can attend. Known paedophiles have attended these events, with one saying that he can’t even swim. What the actual fuck is going on? Who thought this one up?
If adults want to swim naked that’s their call, but why open the event to children too?

I’m pretty sure I’m not the one missing the blindingly obvious here, but I’m so amazed at the stupidity I had to share and maybe raise some awareness.

www.stokesentinel.co.uk/whats-on/family-nude-swimming-session-coming-2589946

These events are being held across the country, so there’s possibly one near you.

Seriously though, who would take their kids to something like this???

What are they going to do if the children are with their parents?

But surely paedophiles are already at swimming pools (unfortunately) and parks and such.

Why do people think that little Jordan is "safe" when in a swimming costume?

I would have thought that there was actually LESS chance at one of these events. Because it's a bit more obvious and people will potentially be more aware of who is around them and perhaps even more restricted access.

And, as anyone who works in this field will tell you, it's not the "weirdo at the pool" you need to watch out for, it's the uncle/aunt/grandparents, the family friend, the cousin, the teacher.... Basically any adult that has a close relationship/regular contact with your child. They are the ones that will groom and abuse your child

I think it’s outrageous. If a parent organised an pool party in their garden with naked adults and naked children then I’m pretty sure they’d be getting a visit from social services.
Of course an event with naked children is more likely to attract peadophiles, it’s the perfect day for them.
Also, nudists like to claim that abuses doesn’t go on at these places but it does, a quick google throws up quite a lot of cases of perverts setting up nudist clubs, others arranging to meet at such clubs in order to have access to children.

This is right by me and there has been mixed reactions! I think it's gross that kids can go too! Very strange

It’s quite late for kids at 8-10pm.

I don’t think it’s that big a deal honestly. As other sensible people have said-paedophiles can lust after kids wherever they are and nudity is going to pretty much “out” most male paedos isn’t it? The risk of abuse to children is from people they know and pearl clutching about a naturist event is OTT and hysterical.

Another hysterical "think of the children!" reaction. Parents who take kids to these events will be very conscious of keeping them safe. No one will be allowed phones so no pictures. Parents will be with children at all times. I've been to plenty of nude beaches where there are kids and that's all gone off without event.

I don’t think it’s that big a deal honestly. As other sensible people have said-paedophiles can lust after kids wherever they are and nudity is going to pretty much “out” most male paedos isn’t it? The risk of abuse to children is from people they know and pearl clutching about a naturist event is OTT and hysterical.

I agree with this entirely.

It’s really not hysterical to think that a child should not have their naked body exposed to all and sundry, that members of the public should not be able to have a good look at them as they go down the water slide or jump into the pool.

I don’t think it’s that big a deal honestly. As other sensible people have said-paedophiles can lust after kids wherever they are and nudity is going to pretty much “out” most male paedos isn’t it? The risk of abuse to children is from people they know and pearl clutching about a naturist event is OTT and hysterical.

I think it is horrendous that the childsnatcher on every corner has meant that this isn't the normal way to see any such event!

How does wearing a square metre of lycra make a difference ?

Would you be objecting if the kids were in lycra?
So why are you protesting when they are not?

I see no difference in risk

I've often been to naturist spas / saunas in Scandinavia and Germany
Also naturist outdoor swimming in Germany in summer

I often see a few children there, but rules are that a parents has to be supervising

We’ve attended a naturist campsite with our children many times and have felt that it benefitted our children to see human beings of all ages/sizes/races au naturelle!

I really think this is an overreaction. Children are at no more a risk here then at a normal swimming pool. These events will be full of adults who enjoy naturism, most will know each other through other channels. The few children that will be there (due to the timings of 8-10pm) will be closely supervised and watched by numerous adults who know them. Single men will stand out.

I would worry more about gangs of teenage/young adult boys going there “for a laugh” and causing chaos (in a boisterous way not predatory way).

I don't like this at all. I don't think it is appropriate for children to be naked around adults, and we shouldn't be blurring those lines for children. Fine if you want your child to be see a range of bodies as @southbucks does but there really should be a pants on at all times rule for children....

I agree this is a massive overreaction. Take it to its logical conclusion and we will be banning children wearing swimwear in public. This event will be considerably more tightly controlled than the average sunny day on the beach.

How do you teach your children about healthy boundaries if you take them to events like this? It seems like grooming. Getting kids used to having adults look at their naked bodies and its no big deal because "naturism".

Massive overreaction.

Yabvu. Obvs know nothing about paedophiles or naturists.
Used to go to naturist swimming club with women friends. Little children running about starkers, oblivious as usual, but the real eye opener was teenagers, completely at ease with ther bodies, confident, no shame or embarrassment. I'd hazard a guess they would be the last to get abused. People got to know you, parents were with kids, I don't think any more risk than anywhere else, probably less. Child abusers are everywhere, naked children are not provocative, the abuser has disordered thinking, will abuse anyone anywhere.

There are naturist families you know. Is it members only? Not my bag but they happen quite regularly and as far as I'm aware they don't have any problems, kids can't attend without parents. I think you need to understand that some people have alternative styles of life rather than being outraged

Can’t people who do nt like just not go, do they have to protest and ban it.

Has anyone actually bother to check if non members can attend? I followed the booking link and could only find the option of booking as a member. Was the information in the newspaper checked before everyone became outraged?

If it's a club event what is the problem?

Asperger's mum

So presumably you've never see your child naked (and vice versa). Never supervised then whilst they were in the bath?
Never had to get them dressed/undressed?

Of course it's ok to be naked around adults.

The issue is the inappropriate touching and grooming with intent and secrecy.

@Cwtches123

No need to “check”. It’s stipulated on the link

In general I think it far healthier for adults and children to see being naked as normal. To emphasusevthat bodies are just bodies, functional and fit for purpose. Not sexualised.

For this reason I prefer the German, Danish, Finnish etc cultures where people just don’t make a fuss about it on beaches or in saunas etc, to a specifically labelled naturist club where nudity is a ‘feature’.

Paedophiles can be anywhere, and interested what ever the state of (in)dress, so I don’t see why this event is any more of a safeguarding risk than a normal swimming session.

Except that the “ooh, a naked event “ vibe might alert / attract perverts (given our weird sexualised relationship with naked bodies) which is why I am surprised they allow non-members.

Meh. No big deal. Not for me but each to their own.