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AIBU or is this a MAJOR safeguarding issue?

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Whatthefudgeisthis · 08/03/2019 03:40

NC for this,

I’ve been absolutely stunned at the ignorance shown by the organisers with this one! A naturist night at the water park 😱 this place is designed for kids entertainment, it’s basically loads of water slides a wave pool and play area etc
Who in their right mind would take a child to such an event. Obviously I’m not shooting down naturists, each to their own, but this is an event that ANYONE can attend. Known paedophiles have attended these events, with one saying that he can’t even swim. What the actual fuck is going on? Who thought this one up?
If adults want to swim naked that’s their call, but why open the event to children too?

I’m pretty sure I’m not the one missing the blindingly obvious here, but I’m so amazed at the stupidity I had to share and maybe raise some awareness.

www.stokesentinel.co.uk/whats-on/family-nude-swimming-session-coming-2589946

These events are being held across the country, so there’s possibly one near you.

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RockyFlintstone · 08/03/2019 13:26

Its interesting that the people against this are the ones using words that are generally deemed to be more vulgar rather than the correct matter of fact anatomical terms.

Makes me think they are the ones with the sexual problem not the naturists.

Is this because I said 'cocks and fannies'? Why would that mean I have a 'sexual problem'?

eyeswideshit · 08/03/2019 13:27

*Why does there have to be a line drawn?

Could you expand on this please? (Urgently!)*

Why is a clothed way of life any better than a naturist way of life?

Huskylover1 · 08/03/2019 13:27

Rocky Agree with all of your points!

Regarding drawing a line, if it's okay to have naked swim sessions now, what other events will be created where children and adults are all expected to be nude?

You wouldn't expect a Dad to share a bath with his 12 year old daughter, how is this any more acceptable?

IrmaFayLear · 08/03/2019 13:28

I'm just feeling a bit queasy imagining all the smelly sweaty naked bodies in the swimming pool. In fact any body even if clad in a swimsuit/trunks. Swimming pools are absolutely rank. I would only go in one if it was 100% bleach.

Limensoda · 08/03/2019 13:29

paedophiles using this 'open to anyone' event as a way of access to getting kicks

They can do that anywhere. Look after your kids and have fun and there's no problem.
It can't be good to have paranoid parents, however much they claim it's because they're worried for their children.
Children aren't born being disgusted with nudity, neither were we until we were taught to be.

HolyForkingShirt · 08/03/2019 13:31

I think you will find a lot of people do not find the opposite sex naked in the nude. Its more about touch and emotional attachment than the sight of dangly bits which to be frank are quite ugly.

I'm with you on this - I love my partner and HIS body, but the sight of random men's bits hanging out (like on Naked Attraction) does absolutely nothing for me, apart from maybe nausea

HolyForkingShirt · 08/03/2019 13:31

To the person who said this is bad because abusive parents can take their kids there - the problem is abusive parents, who will do the abusing at home, not the actual event!

TalkinPaece · 08/03/2019 13:32

Maybe if more women were less prudish in the UK
www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/feb/19/100-vaginas-review-an-extraordinary-and-empowering-spread-of-the-legs-laura-dodsworth
Cervical cancer rates would not be rising again Sad

zippey · 08/03/2019 13:32

It wouldn’t bother me and it’s something I’d think of going, if it weren’t for the horrendous asking price (£22 Per adult!)

We are almost naked when swimming anyway and human bodies are natural. I think naturists say that the events are not sexual.

The pedophile aspect is over the top. There are bad people everywhere, but this shouldn’t let them stop you from trying things.

RockyFlintstone · 08/03/2019 13:34

Why is a clothed way of life any better than a naturist way of life?

Well apart from anything else, it would be fucking freezing if we never wore any clothes!

If everyone was naked all the time then that would be different. Because it would be totally normal to see whole bodies all of the time. You wouldn't need to take anything off to have sex, nothing would be 'private' because it would all be on show all the time. There would be no boundary around clothing because it wouldn't be an issue.

But that's not the society we live in is it?

I will ask the question again: I would be totally uncomfortable being naked in front of of a man I didn't know. Do you think that makes me a prude? Do you think that is a regressive way to think? Do you think I would be liberated by getting my kit off in front of a man I didn't know? I would really like to know your answer to that question.

Meandmetoo · 08/03/2019 13:35

"Its interesting that the people against this are the ones using words that are generally deemed to be more vulgar rather than the correct matter of fact anatomical terms.

Makes me think they are the ones with the sexual problem not the naturists."

No sexual issues here. Issues against people encouraging children's boundaries to be blurred by labelling this a "family" event. Absolutely. frankly, im concerned for the children of anyone who thinks normalising nakedness outside of the family context and therefore diluting children's boundaries is ok tbh. (Oh look, I can be pa too :) )

Strugglingtodomybest · 08/03/2019 13:36

Total overreaction, if you don't want to go, don't go, but to try and ban it. Jeez, I'm so fed up with people trying to ban things left right and centre these days just because they don't understand nuances.

Vixxxy · 08/03/2019 13:38

It does come across a bit odd to me, but then again, I am not a naturist.

I also see waterparks as a kids thing really, though of course they are fun for all ages. So I don't really see the difference between this, and for example a soft play area putting on nude sessions, but I would think many more would see an issue with the latter.

8 - 10pm is an odd time too I think. For a kids thing.

I expect there will be some form of guest list, surely. Not just random people wandering in off the street. And I think that single people should be turned away. No reason at all to go to a family swim session with no family..people turning up alone would bother me a lot.

Yeah mixed feelings and almost arguing with myself in my head!

RockyFlintstone · 08/03/2019 13:41

Maybe if more women were less prudish in the UK
Cervical cancer rates would not be rising again

Wow.

What on earth has that got to do with objecting to kids being taken to naturist sessions at a waterpark?

And are you saying I'm 'prudish' for not wanting to be naked in front of another man?

Chouetted · 08/03/2019 13:41

Conversely, I have answered the door naked if a courier turns up unexpectedly when I'm in bed, because if I stop to put clothes on they'll be long gone by the time I get to the door. (I do sleep in pyjamas if I'm expecting a parcel!)

Do you think that makes me a pervert? Do you think I'm wrong in the head for NOT being uncomfortable being naked in front of a man I don't know?

Or are we just... different?

eyeswideshit · 08/03/2019 13:43

*Why is a clothed way of life any better than a naturist way of life?

Well apart from anything else, it would be fucking freezing if we never wore any clothes!

If everyone was naked all the time then that would be different. Because it would be totally normal to see whole bodies all of the time. You wouldn't need to take anything off to have sex, nothing would be 'private' because it would all be on show all the time. There would be no boundary around clothing because it wouldn't be an issue.

But that's not the society we live in is it?

I will ask the question again: I would be totally uncomfortable being naked in front of of a man I didn't know. Do you think that makes me a prude? Do you think that is a regressive way to think? Do you think I would be liberated by getting my kit off in front of a man I didn't know? I would really like to know your answer to that question.*

But that is the life that a naturist family lives. They dress when 'in society' to save your blushes, not because they have to.

I don't know why you would feel uncomfortable being naked in front of a man you didn't know. I know that from a young age we are taught what the perfect body should look like and that we should all strive for that. I believe this causes massive issues of body confidence in people.

I don't know whether you would feel liberated or not. Obviously a lot of naturists have said that they 'converted' because they tried it and did feel liberated and free. However, I'm aware that they won't be many people saying that they have tried it and it made them feel the opposite, so the research pool is skewed.

I don't think one way of living is better than the other, I believe they are on the same level, and anyone should be entitled to live the way they choose without being called paedophiles and told they should be reported to social services.

Meandmetoo · 08/03/2019 13:44

Yep Rocky, if only women had been exposed to naked adults when they were children eh? We wouldn't have these ridiculous ideas of bodily autonomy, such a negative thing that you know, choosing who sees bits of your naked body.

UnspiritualHome · 08/03/2019 13:45

Have people missed where this event is open to non naturist club members?

anyone being able to attend whether in a family or not

The newspaper report claims this to be the case, but according to people upthread who have checked that seems to be incorrect. Newpaper tries to hype up shock factor, who'd have thought it?

RockyFlintstone · 08/03/2019 13:45

Conversely, I have answered the door naked if a courier turns up unexpectedly when I'm in bed, because if I stop to put clothes on they'll be long gone by the time I get to the door. (I do sleep in pyjamas if I'm expecting a parcel!)

What?! What if the delivery driver doesn't want to see you naked? Can't you just grab a towel or something?!

Do you think that makes me a pervert? Do you think I'm wrong in the head for NOT being uncomfortable being naked in front of a man I don't know?

I don't care if you are comfortable with the delivery driver seeing you naked. I do care if he isn't comfortable with it though, why would you put someone in that position, even if you are not bothered?

RockyFlintstone · 08/03/2019 13:47

Yep Rocky, if only women had been exposed to naked adults when they were children eh? We wouldn't have these ridiculous ideas of bodily autonomy, such a negative thing that you know, choosing who sees bits of your naked body.

Thank fuck you are on this thread Meandmetoo!

Comefromaway · 08/03/2019 13:48

Naturists do choose who sees bits of their body.

RockyFlintstone · 08/03/2019 13:50

Come on women, get your kit of in front of the blokes! Don't feel ashamed of your body, it's lovely, you must have body confidence issues if you don't want to be naked in front of male strangers. You will feel so liberated if we can all get a good look at your jugs. Just try it!

eyeswideshit · 08/03/2019 13:50

I don't care if you are comfortable with the delivery driver seeing you naked. I do care if he isn't comfortable with it though, why would you put someone in that position, even if you are not bothered?

And this is why naturists wear clothes sometimes. Not because they have to, but because they are being polite and are aware of your feelings. And yet naturists seemingly cant hold their own private events now, because it upsets you even though you won't be there and won't see anything. How is that right?

Comefromaway · 08/03/2019 13:51

You really do have issues don't you. Why are you continuing to vulgarise the human body. I have breasts, not jugs. You pour water out of jugs.

FissionChip5 · 08/03/2019 13:51

Naturists adults do choose who sees bits of their body

Fixed that for you.