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Overweight child :(

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Braneycat · 07/03/2019 19:56

Hi, can I have a private post please? Thank you ❤

My 4 year old son is overweight. I'm not in denial about it. A bit of backstory, he had PICA from about 9 months to 2.5 years ish, in which time we struggled to get him to eat 'proper' food. Instead he preferred to eat plaster/mud/sand/toilet roll ect. Because he was skinny and it obviously wasn't doing his tummy any favours we were desperately trying to tempt him to eat normal food, offering chocolate/ice cream ect. He eventually started eating proper food but gained weight rapidly. In the space of a year he went from a size 3-4 to 7-8 (I don't formally weigh him at home). I've been to the paediatrian who diagnosed an iron defiency (which she did the last time) and offered general advice but Alive and Kicking (?) classes aren't available until he's 5. I've been working with his preschool on lunches until they were happy with them. I cook dinner pretty much as soon as we're home to limit snacking, and he has a supper of a sandwich/toast before bed. I don't keep rubbish food in the house anymore and I try to keep us active (but it can be difficult in the cold weather and I can't afford frequent activities like swimming or trampolining regularly). I have so much anxiety over it as he starts school this year. 6 different people on different occasions have said to me 'he's such a sweet boy, he's going to be a target for bullying' and the thought of that makes me feel sick. It's getting me so down and depressed and it's making me question sending him to school at all, even though I know it'll benefit him and there's no garentee he'll struggle socially. But he truly is such a sweet, lovely little boy and the thought of it breaks me.

I don’t know what to do :(

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NutElla5x · 08/03/2019 10:02

It could just be that your son is making up now for that chubby stage that babies/toddlers usually go through,and that if you keep up with the healthy diet he will gradually lose the extra weight by the time he starts school anyway op. As others have said I would cut out the sandwich before bed though. Give him a banana or other fruit/raw veg after school then move dinner time back to no earlier than 5pm.Think about enrolling him in an active club like football,tennis,self defense and swimming lessons too, and perhaps getting him a trampoline for the garden and a wii fit for the house. I really think fun activities is the key here, getting him moving as much as possible will have the added bonus of taking his mind off his stomach too. Good luck.

ASundayWellSpent · 08/03/2019 10:18

I have a tall, heavy four year old DD. However, she is not overweight, (I think 80 percentile) just a large child. Her dad is 6ft2 and stocky, and I am 5ft 8 and size 12 so she was never going to be little. You can tell that she is healthy, just solid, not an inch on fat on her to pinch. Clothes size 6.

What stands out from your posts and responses are: if he wants things like ice cream, why do you have them in the house? Same for biscuits, crisps, sugared cereal and all other rubbishy food. I don't buy it in our weekly shop, as its not something that I want us to be eating. Once a week DD goes to her grandma's for tea and eats the lot! Chocolate sandwich, ice cream after tea, but she knows that's not how we eat at home.

He definitely doesn't need a sandwich before bed! At 4 that's like a whole extra meal. There's nothing wrong with him snacking on healthy foods, and eating his tea a bit later so that he can last til bedtime.

As parents we associated food and feeding our children with care and love, and being attentive to their needs. However, food is sustenance. Food is for energy. Not comfort, not rewards, not incentives, not bribes. If you offer him a healthy food and he says "no I want X treat" then he is not hungry. Unless its something he really doesn't like (but you say he likes fruit and veg) then if he's hungry he will accept what you are offering. You are the "keeper of the food" and its not up for barter or discussion what he can have. It's nice to give some leeway of course, on Wednesdays our DD gets to choose what the whole family eat.

How is your own eating? Do you eat with him, sat at the table etc? Does he see your food portions, see you enjoying fruit, drinking plenty of water etc? They take more cues from us than we realise. A case of practice what you preach! And make eating a positive moment for talking about your days, learning about the food on our plates. DD loves knowing what her food types do for her body.

For perspective, DD who eats like a horse and would eat all day long before we made the types of changes I'm talking about now has an average day something like this:

7am Weetabix with almond milk and banana
Glass of water
10am (at school) piece of fruit and palm sized turkey ham sandwich
12pm (at school, not in UK) 3 course, portion appropriate lunch. Here the menus are designed by a nutritionist, who signs them off monthly and they are emailed to parents with a break down of the protein etc and a suggestion for tea to make a balanced days food. An average lunch might be something like fish soup, followed by french omelette and salad, and fruit for dessert.
4.30pm coming out of school snack. Piece of fruit (first) and then a treat, either a few biscuits, croissant, homemade flapjack etc.
6pm tea, something simple as her main meal is at lunch, on the weekends we do the same. Pasta carbonara, Chicken burger meat and veg, Small baked potato with cheese and beans, Sausage casserole, rice with a tomato and a friend egg. Then fruit, a soy yogurt, and that's it until bedtime at 8pm.

In between times, fruit is unlimited. Sometimes if I can tell she is actually peckish rather than bored or attention seeking, we could make fruit smoothie, or a fruit platter for sharing etc.

Physical activity: judo for an hour on Tuesdays and again on Thursdays, in school lunch break. Same for gymnastics on a Friday. Walking to school and back 3 times a week (15 mins walk), plus park/beach walk / football in the garden etc as and when.

Please don't think this is a huge sanctimonious post, its just an example of another big eater four year old without them being overweight. She still eats double what some of her classmates do, but its healthy, in line with her constitution, and most importantly, keeping a positive relationship with food. Please feel free to private message me if you want to chat more

Shelby2010 · 08/03/2019 10:43

I think people are forgetting that at pre-school he will be having lunch around 11.30, so will be ready for his next meal by 4.30.

OP, it sounds like you are on top of the problem & the paediatrician has reviewed your meal plans. Except in extreme cases the advice is normally to stabilise the child’s weight until they grow into it. Reducing their calories so much that they actually lose weight could be dangerous in a child that age.

Also try to introduce a regime that you can stick to. Make sure you get out on the days he isn’t at preschool and I would give cheese and crackers before bed.

Good luck, you sound like a great mum!

HoppingPavlova · 08/03/2019 10:54

OP, I know this seems really frustrating and overwhelming at present but just wanted to say that you are an amazing mum realising something needs to be done and being so proactive about it. Your DS is so very lucky to have youFlowers.

LetsSplashMummy · 08/03/2019 11:12

It's sounds like you have had an awful lot to deal with and are really aware of his weight, that's a great starting point.

If not a park, is there outdoor space near you. If you can incorporate walking by it into your daily routine, that could help. If you have a bag of outdoor things (scooter, bubbles, skipping rope, frisbee, balls, these sports day kits of egg and spoons and sack race bits) it's like a surprise each day when you get there.

You could also start things like walking to the library once a week, just to create good habits.

My DD is 7 and the children who have got bigger and bigger have parents who choose to take the shortest road based route, always, even though the park would only add two minutes to their journey. They send the message that walking is a chore to be minimised. The healthiest kids have parents with an attitude more like "why rush them home, just to have to entertain them, when they are happy climbing in that tree and jumping in that puddle."

stayathomer · 08/03/2019 11:24

OP you're doing brilliant and there's brilliant ideas above. I'd agree with the people who say not to fully limit sugar- we do a fun Friday where we bake and gave the bun with a packet of cigarettes and a small bar of chocolate then on a Sunday we have a hot chocolate and popcorn ( obviously if you don't allow popcorn due to choking hazard ignore this)we've cut petis filous out ( in aldi they've big tubs of healthier yoghurts and we put some into small bowls) and we get lower fat cheese too and ignore all the processed stuff( they never like it anyway!!) theyre only allowed miwadi on a friday with their 'party' ( We have two bigger build kids so all of this has only come about in the last year or two, theyre 4 and 9). He sounds like a great kid and it's a pity about the park and the playground, hopefully that gets sorted soon. Good luck with it all but don't worry about bullying, that totally depends on the people around him and isnt something to panic about yet. Best of luck OP and you're doing greatFlowers

stayathomer · 08/03/2019 11:25

AAgh!!! I meant chicatees not cigarettes!!!!!!!

whifflesqueak · 08/03/2019 11:40

I properly snorted at that typo stayathomer Grin

Braneycat · 08/03/2019 12:24

Thanks for everyone's comments, so many great ideas and amazing advice.

We don't keep rubbish in the house now, because he's so impulsive. If he knows it's there he'll eat it all in days. So chocolate/ice cream ect are ocassional treats. He also mostly drinks water but likes green top milk, and that's it for liquids. I reviewed his portion sizes as I was giving him similar to his nearly 8 year old sister (who is a healthy weight and always has been) and he has about a third less.

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Braneycat · 08/03/2019 12:25

@stayathomer for a second there I was like 'why are you giving me advice to give him cigarettes' 😂

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stayathomer · 08/03/2019 16:13

whifflesqueak Braneycat 😫😉

NameChange992 · 08/03/2019 16:44

Have you managed to address the iron deficiency? If not, I'd focus on that as the first step, iron deficiency causes pica and similarly can cause general food cravings. When my iron levels get low I start eating everything in sight, it doesn't matter if my stomach feels full, it's a different kind of hunger. I don't get non-food cravings but it's a weird kind of need to chew and cravings for particular textures of food, so you'll find it harder to manage his portion sizes if that's also the case for your ds.

Addressing that will also increase his energy levels so you'll find he'll naturally be more active, which will also help.

DianaPrincessOfThemyscira · 08/03/2019 16:56

If you haven’t, buy a child size plate for him. It’s so easy to dish out large portions for kids if you don’t.

Good luck.

Goldenhedgehogs · 08/03/2019 17:18

Braneycat, I just wanted to say I think you are doing a great job in really difficult circumstances as a lot of these tips and judgements are from parents who have not experienced living with a child with a disordered relationship with food. Keep trying and keep asking for help, I know with your open mind you will get on top of this.

Braneycat · 08/03/2019 17:20

Who knew a blow up bed would be such a great workout, he's been jumping and rolling and wrestling on it on/off since 11am 😅

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Braneycat · 08/03/2019 17:24

We also want for a bike ride and my sister has got me free passes for the swimming pool at the hotel she works in ❤ also signed up for martial arts. We're doing this 💪💪

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Ohyesiam · 08/03/2019 17:37

Hi op,
Have not read the whole thread, so sorry if it’s all been said but IME bullying and name calling does not happen In Reception and Y1, so you’ve got lots of time to work with this and start new habits.
I may be wrong but are there any mini workouts on YouTube for little ones, I know my dd used to do them when her friend came round age about 8, but there could be general jumping about ones aimed at young children that your living room could cope with.

I struggled with dds weight through junior school, she’s now a tall slim teen . There is hope.

SofaSurfer20 · 08/03/2019 17:58

OP if you're overweight why don't you try slimming world. I've been on it 5 weeks and lost over 1 stone! It's taught me to how to eat healthy and my daughter (6) is losing her chub too.

It's great for people who can't work out a lot. Good luck, my girl is super tall for her age, she's nearly 4ft, she was 4st10lbs but has gone down to 4st 7lbs.

She hates her veg but loves fruit, and she can eat fruit whenever she pleases. X

OopsIdidittentimes · 08/03/2019 18:15

I had two very big babies, who turned into big toddlers then big children, they will also be big adults just like mum and dad ( tall and solid, not overweight but not skinny).

Children come in different shapes and sizes, If they are eating healthily and getting a fair bit of exercise I wouldn't worry too much!

NutElla5x · 09/03/2019 13:14

Just read your update Braneycat. Well done on being so proactive so quickly in helping your son get healthy. I think you're brilliant,and with a mum like you your lovely wee lad cannot go wrong Smile

BarbarianMum · 09/03/2019 13:18

Is he still anaemic? When my iron dips too low i not only get pica but I'm constantly starving/craving as well.

Siameasy · 09/03/2019 14:11

Sounds counter intuitive but hear me out..

Is he eating enough fat?!?

Children (I’d argue everyone does) need full-fat versions of food in their diets-not vile sugar-filled reduced fat varieties which often end up nutritionally lacking.

Fat and protein are filling. Carbs are not. So the hard boiled egg is an excellent breakfast-serve it with butter!

I’ll have to disagree with the suggestions of “filling up” on lots of fruit and veg. Funny how people always suggest this when they know damn well that a) fruit is full of sugar and b) neither fruit nor veg are remotely filling otherwise we’d all be “filling up” on them.

Cut back on the starchy carbs as they contribute very little nutritionally; making the fat, protein and veg in a meal the main event is what I would try to do. I know it’s hard - my daughter loves the white carbs but she only gets eg a tiny bit of rice/sweet corn as if she had her way that is all she would eat.

Has he had his blood sugars checked? Being hungry all the time could signify an issue there.

Faroutbrussel · 10/03/2019 10:02

Can anyone explain: if a child is on the 90th percentile for height then surely being tall they would also be on the higher percentiles for weight. I have never understood that the percentile charts don’t take both height and weight into the equation.

BarbarianMum · 10/03/2019 10:32

Height and weight centiles are not generally that closely correlated. If you are taller, you will be heavier than someone of the same build who is shorter but you would be on the same centile.

SparklySneakers · 10/03/2019 16:49

It's great you are tackling this.
My ds has just turned 4 and is at pre-school 2.5 days a week. He's on the 75th percentile for height and 25th for weight.

He walks the 1.2 miles to school 5 days a week as he has an older sister. Some days we walk back too. He's rarely still. A typical day would be:

Breakfast: cereal (Cheerios are his favourite with semi skimmed milk) and a hot chocolate. Or two slices of toast.

Snack at school is fresh fruit. At home is malt loaf, crisps, dried mango or chocolate, yogurt, fruit. Whatever is in.

Lunch is usually a cheese sandwich on brioche roll or malt loaf or crackers and cheese or cheese on toast he likes cheese! Wraps with cucumber and Philadelphia, grapes, apple, banana.

Dinner is frequently a pasta dish with homemade sauce with hidden veg and yes you guessed it: CHEESE! Or homemade lentil or vegetable soup with fresh crusty bread and butter. He won't eat any kind of potato.

Pudding if we have it is homemade fruit crumble and custard or fruit and ice cream.

He has a breastfeed at bedtime. He's not wanting to give that up it seems!

He is always out playing on his bike, kicking a ball, climbing things, jumping, creating havocGrin

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