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Gossip that has gone very wrong

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ChorltonCreamery · 07/03/2019 14:19

One of my children is in an 'organisation' think church group, Scouts etc They are in a friendship group of about six or eight and the mothers are friendly enough, if some of them don't know each other they will have mutual friends etc.
One of the women 'A' is a real character, very funny and charismatic with very talented and charming children. When one of her children came to my child's birthday party I thought that her grandfather had brought her...it was their father. A is married to a man old enough to be her father. He has grandchildren who are older than his children with A.
At the weekend the mothers went out together for the first time but 'A' couldn't come. The conversation turned to 'A' and the relationship that she had with this man. At no point was it 'nasty' as such but comments were made about the age gap etc. One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.
Well last night in front of some of the children 'A' confronted us! She had been briefed (I think by a woman at the next table to us who had lingered after her bill came). She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually. Unforgivably she then asked a teenager whether her mother had brought her up to behave so despicably a manner and whether she thought it was appropriate to gossip behind people's backs. One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick.
It was utterly hideous. I know I am guilty of joining in. I don't know what to do. One of the other children has told my child what happened. Only one of the group has responded to my text saying that she thinks that 'the circle' is at an end and the other person that she has spoken to has spent the morning in bed with a migraine.
I know I am to blame for joining in but I didn't initiate the gossip, but how would you react now. What is the way forward?

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Miljah · 07/03/2019 18:13

I think the woman at the other table should have kept her trap shut.

People gossip all the time. It's human nature. A's supposed 'friend', the woman at the next table sounds like she was salivating at the chance to matey-up further with A.

Personally, I'd want to find out what, exactly, this woman told A? Could she have ulterior motives?

As for being the one to 'end the conversation', we all know that it isn't like that, in real life (unless we really aren't bothered about having friends).

If it really was only a discussion about what is, after all a remarkable (as in 'likely to be remarked upon') age gap; that's possibly not worth A getting that riled up, either?

YourSarcasmIsDripping · 07/03/2019 18:15

There is no proof it was the woman at the other table!
The only reason OP suspects her is because she stayed after she paid the bill which isn't suspicious or that much of an unusual action.

fruitbrewhaha · 07/03/2019 18:16

What was said then? The non invite to a do wasn't by one of your group, so what is it she is so pissed off about?

If you are just pointing out the age difference and ages of his children/grandchildren, then so what? People do talk about each other, that in itself is not inherently wrong. If someone said, yuck that gross then it's a shit thing to say.

I think the person listening in and reporting back to her is an arsehole. There was nothing to gain from telling her.

TheFormidableMrsC · 07/03/2019 18:17

If it's a massive age gap then it's a sign of a major power imbalance/inequality in a relationship and not something many people would want much to do with in their own homes

What an utterly ludicrous comment. There is 22 years between my Dad and stepmother, to clarify, he is 80, my stepmother is 58. They have been married for 12 years and met after my mother died. She has been an amazing wife to him, they have a wonderful relationship. There is no "power imbalance" or "inequality", quite the opposite, indeed they were introduced by their mutual friends who thought they'd be a great match. I can't believe how ridiculous people are about age gap relationships. To exclude somebody because you are too stupid to be able to hold a conversation with a person older than yourself leaves me speechless.

OP, I think you apologise profusely but don't expect the retain the friendship. A harsh lesson learned.

bethy15 · 07/03/2019 18:17

People gossip all the time. It's human nature. A's supposed 'friend', the woman at the next table sounds like she was salivating at the chance to matey-up further with A.

It's not human nature, I've never understood it.

Also, perhaps this person is very close to A, as opposed to these vipers who are mere acquaintances who are just awful and rude about her without being very close at all.

cuppycakey · 07/03/2019 18:18

Far more likely that the older DC have been talking about this after hearing it from their lovely mothers, which is how it got back to A, rather than some randomer at a nearby cafe table.

Would also explain why A involved "the teenager" if they had been part of the ongoing bitching.

Sparklesocks · 07/03/2019 18:18

One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.

Blimey he just really struggle in life!

Also the person dramatically being sick and the other having a migraine from it, way to make it about them!

YourSarcasmIsDripping · 07/03/2019 18:20

@cuppycakey thank you!!!

I thought I was going mad!, all these posters speculating,accusing and dissing some random woman whose only fault was to "linger" after paying the bill!

cometinmoominvalley · 07/03/2019 18:20

What you're describing here, OP, is not gossip. It is social isolation that affects A and her children as well as her DH, and it's something you enthusiastically supported because you think they deserve it for not being carbon copies of you and your friends and your children.

Just want to say how much I agree with this!

Gwenhwyfar · 07/03/2019 18:24

I don't think you've done anything wrong. You didn't slag her off behind your back, you just talked about her relationship situation.

Pk37 · 07/03/2019 18:25

As has been said , the only way is a heartfelt apology .
I wouldn’t blame her if she didnt accept it though .

Gwenhwyfar · 07/03/2019 18:25

"People gossip all the time. It's human nature. A's supposed 'friend', the woman at the next table sounds like she was salivating at the chance to matey-up further with A.

It's not human nature, I've never understood it."

Of course it's human nature to talk about what's going on with other people. Don't you read the news?

Sleepthiefismyfavourite · 07/03/2019 18:26
Hmm
Gwenhwyfar · 07/03/2019 18:27

"What you're describing here, OP, is not gossip. It is social isolation that affects A and her children as well as her DH"

No, OP hasn't isolated A. Someone else did and OP's group was just talking about it.

SirGawain · 07/03/2019 18:27

So you were caught out gossiping in the nastiest fashion and the victim called you out on it. Good for her. You deserved everything you got. You sound like a nasty bunch.

Stargazer888 · 07/03/2019 18:29

It's not human nature, I've never understood it.

@Bethy15 But you're on here gossiping about other people's families, partners, kids. Of course you understand it. You wouldn't be here otherwise.

5SleepingLions · 07/03/2019 18:29

Good for her it sounds like you all deserved what you got to be honest.
Why was what she said unforgiveable?
none of you cared about what you said about the woman and her partner.

marvellousnightforamooncup · 07/03/2019 18:29

If I'd been on the recieving end or the being caught out end of this my response would be the same, meh! I can't understand why you'd throw up when caught out. I can't understand why you'd go bollocking anyone for talking about you. This is all such an overreaction. I find it hard to believe.

I live in a small village. There's nothing else to do here except talk about each other, unless you like birdwatching. Sooo many pearl clutchy, perfect posters. I bet you've never said anything about anyone behind their back ever 🤔.

MariaNovella · 07/03/2019 18:30

Any woman who marries a man old enough to be her father and has children with him who are the same age as his grandchildren can expect to set tongues wagging. It’s hardly a crime. The crime is to try to control the gossipers by scaring the living daylights out of them and their children.

LemonTT · 07/03/2019 18:31

Calling it gossip is minimising bitching and bullying. Good to see you all got taken down in spades.

Rixera · 07/03/2019 18:31

FGS marianovella. I expect it from strangers, not from my friends.

NataliaOsipova · 07/03/2019 18:31

Of course it's human nature to talk about what's going on with other people.

Of course. I saw a friend today (X) who had seen another, mutual friend (Y). We talked about what was going on with her. X told me that Y’s daughter had been in a dancing competition with her daughter, that Y and Mr Y had been on a skiing holiday and that we should try to meet up with Y next time. I’d have had no embarrassment at all if someone had recorded our conversation and played it back to Y as we did not discuss whether we/our husbands liked her husband, nor did we speculate on any aspect of their relationship. Because, you know, she’s our friend and all that....

lololove · 07/03/2019 18:31

Id wonder if the migrane/vomiting (if true) were a physical reaction to feeling the shame of being caught out.

I'd also wonder (again if true) if you're not playing down what was said in the first place to promote such a heated reaction.

MariaNovella · 07/03/2019 18:32

They didn’t sound like friends - mothers of children who are friends. Very different.

ShirleyPhallus · 07/03/2019 18:32

Vomiting around a corner is very impressive!