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Gossip that has gone very wrong

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ChorltonCreamery · 07/03/2019 14:19

One of my children is in an 'organisation' think church group, Scouts etc They are in a friendship group of about six or eight and the mothers are friendly enough, if some of them don't know each other they will have mutual friends etc.
One of the women 'A' is a real character, very funny and charismatic with very talented and charming children. When one of her children came to my child's birthday party I thought that her grandfather had brought her...it was their father. A is married to a man old enough to be her father. He has grandchildren who are older than his children with A.
At the weekend the mothers went out together for the first time but 'A' couldn't come. The conversation turned to 'A' and the relationship that she had with this man. At no point was it 'nasty' as such but comments were made about the age gap etc. One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.
Well last night in front of some of the children 'A' confronted us! She had been briefed (I think by a woman at the next table to us who had lingered after her bill came). She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually. Unforgivably she then asked a teenager whether her mother had brought her up to behave so despicably a manner and whether she thought it was appropriate to gossip behind people's backs. One of the group disappeared round a corner and was sick.
It was utterly hideous. I know I am guilty of joining in. I don't know what to do. One of the other children has told my child what happened. Only one of the group has responded to my text saying that she thinks that 'the circle' is at an end and the other person that she has spoken to has spent the morning in bed with a migraine.
I know I am to blame for joining in but I didn't initiate the gossip, but how would you react now. What is the way forward?

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BananasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 07/03/2019 17:57

Does the vomiting though.

Emesis expedium?

SaturdayNext · 07/03/2019 17:58

I must admit to being curious about the man who can't handle speaking to older men. How on earth does he manage at work? Or with his parents' friends?

Choccywoccyhooha · 07/03/2019 17:58

It takes a very secure person to confront bitching. Well done her.

I find it utterly bizarre that an age gap of, what 20 years?, between adults is such a source of interest and gossip. It must be a very narrow world you inhabit in your area. I find it particularly bizarre as I'm currently back at university surrounded by students 20 years younger than me and they have all accepted me and been so welcoming and inclusive. I'm glad they haven't found it impossible to talk to someone old enough to be their mother. Maybe I've been lucky. Or maybe the people you know have issues.

Thisisnotadrill · 07/03/2019 17:58

And actually I agree the table lady is a shit stirrer anyone who does this is a nasty shit stirrer.

KellyMarieTunstall2 · 07/03/2019 17:58

Good for her to confront you all. I'd personally like to give her a round of applause.

Apologize, it was cringey. But don't expect to be friends again.

BachAtTheMoon · 07/03/2019 17:58

sagradafamiliar - it's a given that most people are at different maturity stages when there is a lifetime-sized age gap
Is this a fact or your opinion? Interested to know where you got this?

MariaNovella · 07/03/2019 17:59

Stay away from her! Charismatic and charming... or devious and manipulative until she becomes controlling and terrifying?

Deadbudgie · 07/03/2019 17:59

Someone was sick because they had been found to be gossiping? Apologise and move on. This person will either forgive you or not. Not the end of the world for anyone concerned, not nice bit sounds like its been blown out of all proportion by everyone, Maybe if you weren't all so needy about this friendship group you would be better placed to call out unacceptable behaviour as it happened rather than simply joining in.

MariaNovella · 07/03/2019 18:02

«She completely demolished us intellectually, asking what had she done to provoke such a reaction and picked on us individually.”

This is really bad.

UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea · 07/03/2019 18:02

I'm married to a man older than my dad. I have a DSS who is just 5 years younger than me.

I know that people probably speculate about us. Doesn't bother me in the least.

But excluding someone because they are older than you? That's nasty.

YourSarcasmIsDripping · 07/03/2019 18:02

Nah it's

Vomitus infinitus

And for the migraine must be..

Avada migrania

Did anyon3inform the Ministry of Magic? We can't have this dangerous woman on the loose! Is her last name Lestrange? Send her to the Dementors!!

Terrifying my big,fat arse!

Butterymuffin · 07/03/2019 18:03

One parent admitted that the family had not been invited to a gathering at a school friend's house because the husband had found it weird to have to talk to someone old enough to be his dad.

If I was unlucky enough to have someone this dim-witted as my partner, you can bet I would never, ever mention this to anyone. How embarrassing to have admitted that you sleep with someone who thinks this!

BananasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 07/03/2019 18:03

@maria why was it so bad?

They picked on her and her relationship with her husband- extremely personal.

She handed them their arses on a plate by giving them a taste of their own medicine.

YourSarcasmIsDripping · 07/03/2019 18:04

@MariaNovella are you one of the friends?

MissUGirl · 07/03/2019 18:05

OP did anyone use the term "sugar daddy", "gold digger" or speculate on A and husband's sex life?

Ruru8thestars · 07/03/2019 18:06

Poor A

lololove · 07/03/2019 18:06

One of my friends partners is 54, she is 28 and they are incredible together! They met during their job and it's obvious to anyone who meets them that they absolutely worship the ground each other walks on - 2 years on they are an incredible couple.

Sod the lot of you who are being so mean about A (if this is a true story - a lot of it doesn't ring true) She sounds incredible and I'd want to be friends with her and avoid 'the group'.

Not exactly Christian for a church group...

MariaNovella · 07/03/2019 18:06

No - she is trying to control their conversation. Gossip is perfectly legal! Nothing to be proud of but it really didn’t sound very bad.

MissUGirl · 07/03/2019 18:06

But excluding someone because they are older than you? That's nasty.

I know I get excluded from some group friend events because I don't drink. Is that nasty?

NTitled · 07/03/2019 18:08

@MissUGirl You choose whether or not to drink. You don't get to choose how old you are. Confused

LonelyandTiredandLow · 07/03/2019 18:10

Maria she cannot "control" a conversation that has already happened. She is saying she knows this group aren't really being her friend and calling them out on it. Very brave. Trying to demonise her when she wasn't involved is ridiculous.

choli · 07/03/2019 18:10

Wow, the first time the circle went out together as a group and they immediately began bitching about the absent member. It's probably a good thing that the circle is now broken. Surely no one could be comfortable knowing that they will probably tear you asunder if you are the absent member yourself.

NataliaOsipova · 07/03/2019 18:10

Gossip is perfectly legal! Nothing to be proud of but it really didn’t sound very bad.

Obviously it did to the woman at the next table who actually heard what was said and saw fit to pass it on.....

BananasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 07/03/2019 18:12

Every time I read the word 'circle' on this thread I think of 'Meet the Parents' and De Niro's circle of trust...

Mingmoo · 07/03/2019 18:12

My DF was 50 when I was born. He was and is a great dad, but it altered our childhood completely - my parents' friends were older, with adult children. All of my first cousins had children the same age as us, and because we were the wrong generation we didn't get invited to family parties etc. We were brought up to be able to sit with adults and talk to them and benefited from that in some ways, but we were really isolated from other children socially and in our family. It was a very sad childhood in lots of ways.

What you're describing here, OP, is not gossip. It is social isolation that affects A and her children as well as her DH, and it's something you enthusiastically supported because you think they deserve it for not being carbon copies of you and your friends and your children. I wonder if there's a little envy built into this too, given how charismatic A is and her talented/charming children. You don't know if A has mentioned feeling isolated to the woman at the next table, wondering if she's done something to offend you to be left out, or why she's not as close to the little gang of you as she thinks she might be, but I'd suspect it, given that she seems to have passed on what she heard. I'm shocked at people thinking THAT is the crime here, or A giving you the full hairdryer treatment. You fully deserved it.

You've behaved horribly, but having said that at least you can learn from it. Please make an effort to apologise and make a fresh start with A, for your sake and hers, and for your children/her children who really don't deserve to lose friendships over their mothers getting drunk and bitchy on a girls' night out.