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AIBU to ask family to bring their own food?

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borntobequiet · 28/02/2019 09:36

I have family visiting for Easter. I know they have been "forward purchasing" in case of shortages caused by any no-deal Brexit, as have I. Would I be unreasonable to ask then to bring their own food to avoid depleting my store? The children will eat up all my pasta and pesto in next to no time. And I don't want to waste freezer space on fish fingers, which I never eat.

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IDoN0tCare · 02/03/2019 08:38

Stockpiling causes shortages if lots of people do it. If a shop suddenly sells twice as much sugar/baked beans/avocados as they usually do

SUDDENLY!

That’s PANIC buying! That’s not prepping! FFS! bangs head on table

borntobequiet · 02/03/2019 08:41

Here’s another - quite unexpected - problem...a shortage of paper and ink. Food packaging? Till receipts?
www.mediapost.com/publications/article/330979/british-newspapers-stockpile-ink-paper-pre-brexit.html
Seriously, I’m pleased I have my little stockpile. As I’ve been adding to it for months now, I don’t want to get any more. But others might like to put a few things by, while stocks can be easily replenished.

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bellinisurge · 02/03/2019 08:42

Trouble is @IDoN0tCare , when people finally twig that they should do something for their home and it is very near the time, that IS panic buying which they will say is exactly the same as the stocking up many people did calmly and proportionately MONTHS ago.
It isn't but people will think they have a self fulfilling prophesy created by their own blinkered attitude.

Bluntness100 · 02/03/2019 08:52

Post brexit we need to change our labelling and customs declarations , if less than fifty percent ingredients are sourced in the eu, it can no longer say eu sourced.so companies are having to work out how much exactly comes from what country, ie U.K. or France etc. Currently you can just say eu sourced if it's from one of the 27 member states.

As for what will happen next, Ive no clue, no one does.

All we know factually is there is no majority to vote no deal through. No where close, the overwhelming majority of mps are vocally against it,,soits not an option, that's why folks like the abhorrent Jacob Rees mogg are now looking for a way to support her deal because it's either that or delay and they don't want to risk brexit not happening. They are fully aware no deal is not an option.even Teresa May has stood up in thr House of Parliament and said she does not want no deal. I watched it myself.

So really that's where it's at, it will be either her deal or delay. What happens in the event of a delay is anyone's guess, could be for two months or two years.

Thr other thing is we are likely not leaving on thr 29 March. There is not enough time to pass it into legislation, there is six hundred statutes alone to be changed , so a very short delay is likely to get the legislation passed if her deal is agreed. Thr courts don't have enough sitting days left to do it. Howcer if she brings her vote forward she may be able to squeeze it.

So really that's where it's at, either it's her deal, and a possible short delay to get it passed into legislation, or it's a proper delay and the whole saga continues.

I suspect on balance she might just get her deal through by a small majority.

WhentheDealGoesDown1 · 02/03/2019 09:09

What's with the italics on the posts.

WhentheDealGoesDown1 · 02/03/2019 09:13

Some posts have italics on every other word, I thought it was just meant for emphasis on the odd word not every and, but and if.

borntobequiet · 02/03/2019 09:13

Actually, Bluntness, I agree that she might get her deal through by a whisker, and much as I really really don’t want to leave, her deal is way better than any alternative bar Remain. I suspect the DUP are under a great deal of pressure from NI constituents who are realising that 9% off their economy (that is already overly reliant on the public sector) would effectively break it. And the ERG are apparently very split, as of course is Labour.
Though I think a second vote of any sort might be dangerous, I’ll be marching on the 23rd as a means of putting more pressure on MPs to do the sensible thing.
www.peoples-vote.uk/march

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wherearemychickens · 02/03/2019 09:30

But Bluntness, in a sense it doesn't matter what our MPs want now. The crucial decision they made was 2 years ago when they voted to invoke Article 50. That set the clock ticking.

nutellalove · 02/03/2019 10:22

I have no words Shock

borntobequiet · 02/03/2019 10:34

You might have no Nutella, better get some in. Remember what happened in France just a year ago!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42826028
I have two big jars, even though I rarely eat it, but grandkids do.

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SparklySneakers · 02/03/2019 10:51

Good stock of Nutella here for DD1Smile

doIreallyneedto · 02/03/2019 11:48

@Bluntness100 - All we know factually is there is no majority to vote no deal through

The problem is, it doesn't need a majority to vote no deal through. All thats needed is for parliament to continue with their current ineptitude and inability to make a decision.

If an agreement is not made with the EU, or Article 50 revoked, by 29th of March, no deal is the default. The agreement may be the WA, an extension (but a reason better than "we want more time to argue with our toenails" is required for that), or some other variant of the WA (can't see how that could happen).

Given the quality of leadership and cooperation currently being displayed in Westminster, an accidental no deal is possible. Hopefully, they will get their act together but for that to happen, they need to call a halt to the current game of chicken.

SparklySneakers · 02/03/2019 12:06

Glad it's not just me who thinks that no deal isn't off the table due to it being the default

wherearemychickens · 02/03/2019 12:23

I'm going to be thoroughly entertained if they vote everything down in March - no deal, no no deal, no extension. How fucked will we be then?!!

doIreallyneedto · 02/03/2019 12:35

@SparklySneakers - Glad it's not just me who thinks that no deal isn't off the table due to it being the default

Yeah. It doesn't matter what people think, the reality is, no deal cannot be taken off the table until a deal is done. It's binary.

SidmouthDad · 02/03/2019 12:39

Shouldn't you have considered this scenario before voting Leave? Definitely BU.

borntobequiet · 02/03/2019 13:16

Of course I didn’t vote Leave, dickhead.

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Bluntness100 · 02/03/2019 13:24

All thats needed is for parliament to continue with their current ineptitude and inability to make a decision.

Thr vote to reject no deal is set, it's on the thirteenth of March, if her deal doesn't get through. So unless she cancels it, which she won't do as it would be carnage and she's committed, then no deal is off the table.

I'm not sure why folks are struggling to believe it really. It's factual, no deal is not an option.

Bluntness100 · 02/03/2019 13:25

It doesn't matter what people think, the reality is, no deal cannot be taken off the table until a deal is done

Of course it can. They can extend and ultimately revoke

funnelfanjo · 02/03/2019 13:56

But if May loses all the votes in March, no deal, no extension, then no-deal crash out happens on Mar 29. It’s never “off the table”.

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ArmchairTraveller · 02/03/2019 14:48

I’ve done with stockpiling pasta and beans. I’m now planning to surf through Brexit on a tide of rum, Easter eggs and hot cross buns.
Not panic- buying, more of a binge.
Then when I regain consciousness round about St George’s Day, I will be too bloated to rush out and join the party until June and strawberry season.

borntobequiet · 02/03/2019 14:54

A wise decision, Armchair.

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doIreallyneedto · 02/03/2019 14:56

@Bluntness100 - Of course it can. They can extend and ultimately revoke

Perhaps the language I'm using is unclear (I do have a tendency to expect people to read my mind 😁). When I say a deal needs to be done in order to avoid no deal, I mean an agreement. The agreement could be an agreement with the EU to extend (which in and of itself will not avoid no deal) or an agreement within parliament to revoke etc. However, if they continue with their strategy of rejecting everything but agreeing nothing, no deal can, and will, most definitely happen.

It is not enough to vote against no deal in parliament. They must also vote for something. That could be the WA or to revoke. Alternatively, they could vote to ask the EU for an extension. An extension, if agreed by all EU member states, simply kicks the can down the road. Ultimately, a withdrawal agreement of some description OR a decision to revoke needs to happen as otherwise, once the A50 time (whether extended or not) runs out, the UK is out of the EU without a deal.

anxiousmotherof1 · 02/03/2019 15:13

ShockHmmBiscuit