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32 days to go until Brexit , which would you prefer ? No deal , the WA or revoke ? Which is best for the majority of the population of the UK ?

346 replies

frumpety · 25/02/2019 20:18

This is a genuine question , you can give an explanation or not for your choice, entirely up to you Smile

My choice would be revoke, if I was considering the rest of the UK population. This does not mean that the UK can never leave the EU, but that those in charge would have to come up with solutions that were not detrimental to the majority of the population.

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EmeraldShamrock · 26/02/2019 07:56

We have spent a fortune already preparing for no deal because you lot can't agree on what you want. If it wasn't for the shit storm that would rain down on us, there is a little bit of me that would like to see you get what you deserve with no deal
Unfortunately many Irish feel this way too, right now the cervical cancer disaster, housing crisis and many issues are being side lined for Brexit talks.
Our Taoiseacht has never changed his stance on the border issue.
Personally I hope it is not extended past the 29th, although I reckon it will stay centre talk for years to come.

Poloshot · 26/02/2019 08:02

No deal

CoolJule43 · 26/02/2019 08:03

Leave with no deal.

All of my friends who voted to leave say they would vote the same way again and are more adamant too because of the way we have been treated by the EU.

I also know people who voted remain who have now changed their minds (although I only know a few who voted remain).

Camomila · 26/02/2019 08:03

People's vote followed by revoke.
2nd choice WA followed by staying in the CU/SM.

Worst would be a short extension (to prolong the waiting!) followed by no deal.

mummmy2017 · 26/02/2019 08:07

No deal.
You need saying labour would campaign for a new vote, has this not left labour to vote down any deal TM offers?
So if she won't win the vote, says it is happening next month.. how can anything else happen?

namechange34 · 26/02/2019 08:09

Revoke

thecatsthecats · 26/02/2019 08:15

I'm not so certain that riots would be either inevitable or prolonged. It's one thing to support or vote for a political cause, it's another to go out on the streets to smash things up on behalf of it - I'm think that this would be the vast, vast minority of leave voters.

AutumnCrow · 26/02/2019 08:16

We voted to leave, we have to leave or it will rip our country apart

The ERG already did that, for their own personal gain. And the PM, whose husband allegedly also stands to gain, let them. If people want to indulge in hyperbole, how about 'treason'?

We need revocation and a royal commission into how we got here.

MrPan · 26/02/2019 08:18

Revoke. Then Remain.

The "will of the people" is plainly to avoid stepping in a massive pile of dog shit, which Brexiters didn't know was there in 2016.

AutumnCrow · 26/02/2019 08:20

The high courts recently stated that had the referendum been legally binding, rather than just advisory, the result would have been quashed as the Vote Leave campaign acted illegally. So enough already with the democratic will-of-the-people mantra

I think this, from MordredsOrrery, bears repeating. Frequently.

MrPan · 26/02/2019 08:21

Do people REALLY know what the WTO terms are? The enforced tariffs which we (undemocratically) can't vote against. Which makes us ALL poorer.

How fucking dim do Leavers have to be?

DailyMailFuckRightOff · 26/02/2019 08:24

Revoke.

Clavinova · 26/02/2019 08:46

The "will of the people" is plainly to avoid stepping in a massive pile of dog shit, which Brexiters didn't know was there in 2016.

And yet 357,936 people have already signed this petition;

Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/229963

And it's gone up by 10 signatures in the last few minutes!?

(No, I haven't signed it - I'm still sitting on the fence).

scaryteacher · 26/02/2019 08:56

WTO Brexit; the WA is too bad to sign up to.

I would have preferred to have left with a simple WA, that allowed both sides time to sort things out, but when we leave, we have to leave with the ability to strike our own trade deals.

There is no status quo if we stay in the EU - no veto, as most things move to QMV.

doIreallyneedto · 26/02/2019 09:11

@CoolJule43 - All of my friends who voted to leave say they would vote the same way again and are more adamant too because of the way we have been treated by the EU.

I find it hard to believe that people are so blinkered as to blame the EU for this. Firstly, the EU have consistently started that they intend upholding the 4 freedoms. Thus, any deal will not allow the UK to avail of only a subset of them. This is a perfectly reasonable stance to take as to do otherwise would undermine the whole principle of the EU. The UK knew this would be the case but still tried to cherry pick and acted shocked and offended when that was denied them.

Secondly, the UK, not the EU, has signed an internationally binding agreement with Ireland that requires no border checks at the British border in Ireland. The EU are, not very surprisingly, supporting Ireland in their demand that the UK complies with that agreement. The UK and the EU negotiated the only viable exit agreement that complied with everyone's red lines. Unfortunately, most of the UK government did not like this agreement and decided that they would prefer to use fairy dust to ensure there is no hard border in Ireland. Unsurprisingly, Ireland and the EU are a little sceptical of the efficacy of fairy dust and have refused to renegotiate to a fictional, non-viable, solution. Although if the UK could come up with a non-fantasy suggestion to deal with the British border, the EU are open to discussion.

Basically, the EU has treated the UK a damn site better than the UK have treated Ireland and the EU.

BorisBogtrotter · 26/02/2019 09:13

Anyone advocating WTO over the W.A doesn't understand either.

amusedbush · 26/02/2019 09:23

Revoke. Revoke. Revoke.

I'm a remainer and I've never wavered in that. Brexit is a disaster.

instagland · 26/02/2019 09:26

Another for revoke. Wish it would bloody happen now.

BorisBogtrotter · 26/02/2019 09:31

"a simple WA, that allowed both sides time to sort things out, but when we leave, we have to leave with the ability to strike our own trade deals. "

So a mythical have your cake and eat it WA.

Riigggght

mumeeee · 26/02/2019 09:33

Revoke

Notonthestairs · 26/02/2019 09:39

Revoke.

Quietrebel · 26/02/2019 09:40

Leavers are too emotional about brexit. The EU may not make your heart sing but seriously, let's recognise which way our bread is buttered.

Mrsorganmorgan · 26/02/2019 09:44

Revoke

SilverySurfer · 26/02/2019 09:56

No deal and if you think think Leavers are going to roll over so you can cancel Brexit and stay in the EU you've got a big shock coming to you. I can just imagine if the reverse happened, no way would you accept going against the wishes of the majority who voted.

I don't think Leavers are being too emotional about Brexit, you've obviously never read the Brexit thread which is 99% wailing and whining by Remainers.

Clavinova · 26/02/2019 10:00

Leavers are too emotional about brexit

I don't see that - Remainers are planning another emotional "People's Vote March^ in London, whilst 357,965 Leavers have sat quietly in their armchairs signing a Petition. Hmm