Mansplaining

[Grammarist]

Just had a discussion with the ever-lovely DH where I mentioned that a female friend of mine (an eminent Professor in her field) was a target of mansplaining via a live TV interview recently.

DH exploded at me. Mansplaining apparently isn't real and I shouldn't think that it is...

Hmmm.... I think he may be doing it to me. Dick

[MerdedeBrexit]

Personal life - maybe I need to question my judgement. Maybe someone should tell me how/what I should do in that area Sounds as if you are perfectly capable of doing that yourself, with nobody patronising you, or mansplaining or womansplaining it to you, Grammarist. FWIW, if this is typical of your "ever-lovely" DH's behaviour, if I were you, I wouldn't want to be living with him.

[Thegoodthere]

@streetwise, which women?

[DisrespectfulAdultFemale]

I have autism. When I mentioned this to a male colleague, he mansplained autism and the diagnostic process to me.

[StreetwiseHercules]

“I have autism. When I mentioned this to a male colleague, he mansplained autism and the diagnostic process to me.”

How is the gender of the person who did this relevant?

[recrudescence]

I think manslpaining absolutely is a thing. The problem, IMO, is it’s application to almost any male utterance that a woman doesn’t like.

[recrudescence]

*its

[Mummyoflittledragon]

shared thismonth
I ignored you. Did I?! Or perhaps I was asleep. I read a brilliant article about how traditionally male roles once taken over by females consistently attracted a lower salary from that point. It was American possibly and cited jobs like janitor (trad male) vs housekeeper / cleaner. It discussed the massive disparity between nurses salaries (when several years of training and a degree are required) vs those of doctors - higher trained for sure but with a disproportionately high salary due to being male dominated. Then there were very basic, unskilled jobs - example I remember was ticket collector, which used to attract a largish wage until women started doing it. How legal positions attract lower salaries until recently with the influx of women. How IT used to be poorly paid and attracted salaries similar to those of a basic admin job until men started applying.

It was very interesting and I’m chronically ill and too tired to look for it. But yes, it’s definitely a thing even if you don’t wish to engage in the discussion. You need to look at history to find it. Not just present day.

[Boom76]

recrudescence

Totally agree

[Mummyoflittledragon]

That should say legal positions used to attract higher salaries.

[Grammarist]

@StreetwiseHercules - yes, DH exploded at me. Your comment asking whether he actually did that seems rather unnecessary and rude. We were having a normal voice-level conversation until that point and he went ballistic. I'm not too sure why you felt that you had to question that.

The context that we were discussing was a classic case of mansplaining why my friend had had her research explained back to her incorrectly. She's a world-leading expert in her specific field. But apparently my DH doesn't think that the mansplaining is a real thing. She's had that kind of behaviour levelled at her for years as she is a highly-qualified female working within a predominately male field.

[Grammarist]

@MerdedeBrexit Unfortunately this is exactly what he's like at the moment.

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

Ooh! Why did shared get deleted?

There wasn't anything in the post to me that warranted deletion?

And I quoted it... so my post shpuld have been deleted too!

What is happening? Can we not have a robust deabte / argument / nit picking session any more?

[Grammarist]

@Shoxfordian Yes. Unfortunately.

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

oh, looks like i disagreed with the wrong person. It does doesn't it?

Wasn't me... and I still think my post quoting one of your deleted posts should have gone too - if there was anything in yours that warranted deletion!

I don't mind arguments, I do mind weird moderation.

@MNHQ What happened?

[Grammarist]

I've only just got back on the thread so I'm not exactly sure what Shared wrote that warranted deletion. I'm quite annoyed though about how he/she questioned whether my DH had 'exploded'. Seemed a very unnecessary thing to pick on!

[Mummyoflittledragon]

I’ve reported the posts not yet deleted by shared this month. After posting my comment, I also thought about how their posts were rather off and did an advanced search. Anyway. It was so clearly a man imo.

[SaturdayNext]

sharedThisMonth

Don't be disingenuous, it doesn't work.. There's a couple of very obvious differences between a liver and a vulva in terms of the proportion of the population owning them and their siting in the body. If I tried to tell men that they had got the terminology relating to their genitalia wrong in circumstances where both experts and the dictionary told me I was mistaken, I would look equally ridiculous.

[StreetwiseHercules]

“@StreetwiseHercules - yes, DH exploded at me. Your comment asking whether he actually did that seems rather unnecessary and rude. We were having a normal voice-level conversation until that point and he went ballistic. I'm not too sure why you felt that you had to question that. ”

I was just interested in what constituted “exploding”. Sounds quite unusual. What an extreme and odd response from your partner.

I was patronised yesterday over my own area of expertise, in an area where she has none. By a woman. It happens fair regularly as there are a lot of men and women in the office where I work.

Some people are just patronising cunts. I don’t align it to gender because that would be wrong. Because generalising about protected characteristics is wrong.

[StreetwiseHercules]

Looks like misconduct at mumsnet towers. None of the deleted posts by Sharedthismonth were contrary to the guidelines.

[SaturdayNext]

Shared's posts seem to have largely disappeared off AS. MN would appear to know something about him that we don't.

[StreetwiseHercules]

Previous banned user? I see.

[CuriousaboutSamphire]

Ah. Yes the deletions now say PBP and Troll!

[Soubriquet]

For anyone who says mansplaining doesn’t work...this is a clear and classic example where a man is putting his nose in where it isn’t needed or wanted..especially since he has NO experience at all with it

My brother-in-law once tried to tell me which tampons were the best to buy, and which bras were the most comfortable. LOL. As if he had any personal experience to form his well-thought-out opinion! Haha. His arguments were based on his sisters' and girlfriends' preferences.