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To wonder why Sajid Jarvis was so quick to remove Shamima Begum’s British nationality

503 replies

MrsSchadenfreude · 22/02/2019 15:54

But has done nothing about removing Asma Assad’s? Asma Assad is a dual British-Syrian National, so why not deprive her (and her kids) of British nationality? I can’t quite believe that the government hasn’ Done this. Why on Earth not?

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 23/02/2019 21:39

So me quoting your post was actually agreeing that people had probably said those things

But were was the evidence from my original question 'who is doing this'

So at no point did I misrepresent you

You just didnt answer my original question ' who is doing this'

But ive got the answer

No one said it

BejamNostalgia · 23/02/2019 21:40

And again...i may have missed the post saying WE SHOULD LET HER GET AWAY WITH IT

Aw bless you. You’re very literal aren’t you. Do you struggle to grasp concepts which are a bit abstract which aren’t literally spelled out for you?

Just in case that is the problem here I’ll help:

Insisting that SB is a victim of grooming rather than a war criminal and saying that the loss of her citizenship is a tragedy carries far more than a tiny inference that the poster thinks she should ‘get away with it’. That is generally the intent of a speaker says they believe someone is a victim.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 23/02/2019 21:41

But posts get missed all the time bejam

So maybe you just missed my original question

Imissgmichael · 23/02/2019 21:41

No Brass I’m not. You know I’m not but you think by insulting me you will win some sort of argument. Pathetic. Do you think rape of women and children is ok? Go on tell her he truth.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 23/02/2019 21:41

Oh look there was me being nice Smile

brassbrass · 23/02/2019 21:42

Well done for being so patient Rufus Grin

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 23/02/2019 21:43

Thank you brass Grin

KissingInTheRain · 23/02/2019 21:45

Please, please can we not get into accusations of sympathy to terrorists/criminals for doubting the government; or, on the other hand, that it’s racist, ‘right wing’ or - even worse, ‘Blairite’ - to believe that the government can exercise lawful powers to safeguard the country.

Otherwise we lose any useful and enjoyable discussion.

ContinuityError · 23/02/2019 21:48

rufus you’re always nice. I think you’re actually Julie Andrews in real life.

livinglavidavillanelle · 23/02/2019 21:50

Oh please. Give it a year, 18 months or so and she'll be tucked up at home quicker than you can say 'Universal Credits'. He's a dick that knew Bangladesh would kick her to the kerb, and any appeal would be upheld.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 23/02/2019 21:51

continuity

Grin
KissingInTheRain · 23/02/2019 21:52

living

Is that a pro- or an anti-Javid comment?

BertrandRussell · 23/02/2019 22:16

“That’s passed me by. I won’t ask who the poster was...but - assuming they were defending ISIS/Daesh - surely they’ve been banned?”

Gets braver.

BejamNostalgia · 23/02/2019 22:18

You know what I have found on AS. I’ve advanced searched most of Shamima’s biggest supporters on here along with words like “Yazidi”, “slave” and “Kurd” and not once have any of them expressed any sort of concern or worry or revulsion at genocide or sexual slavery.

Surely this is some sort of mistake as obviously people who are so concerned about what is happening in Syria and the rights of young women would have been all over that, right?

Or are the just far too boring and mainstream to be any use for frantic virtue signalling?

BertrandRussell · 23/02/2019 22:24

Your problem is that you don’t know what the word “supporter” means.

KissingInTheRain · 23/02/2019 22:31

Erm, to quote Scottishmummy, why the creepy wee brackets?

Are you celebrating a banning or am I being whooshed?

SaturdayNext · 23/02/2019 22:34

Imissgmichael, I like men fine. I feel however that my views are valid on their own without having to have them endorsed by my husband - with whom, by the way, I have a perfectly equal relationship.

Would your joint citizen relations be quite so happy with the situation if, say, the UK suddenly decided to take against them and stripped them of citizenship and left them stranded in another country? Especially if their second country was one they'd never been to and was disowning them also? Because that is the principle you're signing up to.

We will let her back in and give her a hug and a kiss, social housing and everything that comes with it. She will be left to spread her vile message and certain posters on here will say ah bless it wasn’t her fault.

You know perfectly well that none of that will happen. If she comes back she will be held in custody and put on trial. And, given that no posters on here are currently saying "Ah bless it wasn't her fault" they won't be saying that in future.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 23/02/2019 22:34

bertrand hasnt been banned

Whats 'being whooshed'?

BertrandRussell · 23/02/2019 22:37

No of course I haven’t been banned!

Apart from anything else, I haven’t accused anyone of being a terrorist....

But enough about me. Can we get back to the subject?

KissingInTheRain · 23/02/2019 22:39

No, not Bertrand 🤦‍♀️ - I mean the poster she’s talking about.

‘Whooshed’ is ‘going over my head’, i.e. that I don’t get the reference.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 23/02/2019 22:39

But i want to know what 'being whooshed' is

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 23/02/2019 22:40

Oh sorry kissing cross post Smile

livinglavidavillanelle · 23/02/2019 22:40

Kissing Javid went for the popular vote, knowing it would be overturned. He makes my skin crawl.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 23/02/2019 22:41

Did you just facepalm me Grin

bertrand please put kissing out of her misery

KissingInTheRain · 23/02/2019 22:45

Did you just facepalm me

Yeah, sorry, wasn’t meant aggressively.

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