To wonder why Sajid Jarvis was so quick to remove Shamima Begum’s British nationality

[MrsSchadenfreude]

But has done nothing about removing Asma Assad’s? Asma Assad is a dual British-Syrian National, so why not deprive her (and her kids) of British nationality? I can’t quite believe that the government hasn’ Done this. Why on Earth not?

“Talkinpeace nope the news says her mum wasn’t a british citizen when SB was born”

No-neither of my parents were British citizens when I was born either. I’m still Brutish..

Ah joy, so you are just bigoted against anybody "other"

Bet you voted leave as well

Even if you think this is the right thing to do surely it’s still a bloody tragedy and it’s not appropria

Right

Point out where it says

WE SHOULD LET HER GET AWAY WITH IT

I am not denying and never have denied that people havent said its a tragedy, or she was groomed or she is a victim

What i am saying is that NO ONE HAS SAID WE SHOULD LET HER GET AWAY WITH IT

No one...

Gosh you are right...this is tiresome

And again...i may have missed the post saying WE SHOULD LET HER GET AWAY WITH IT

I appreciate that you have been very busy searching so maybe someone else on here has read it

Rufus. A lot of what reading is about is reading, between the lines.

Inference... subtext.

There are some posters on here who are oldies like me and I can tell you, some I have never once seen condemn Isis . But I have seen defence of anti sematism and worse.

There is most definitely an underlying subtext that this girl is made by Britain purely by being born here and no condemnation of Isis. In fact one poster started a thread asking about Isis and it's aims..the feeling there was this was a poor religious group that needed breathing space away from evil West too spread it's wings... when posters said no..this is Isis... article after article linked.. facts Etc... OP.... Faded...away...

Imiss no wonder you're struggling with the bigger picture if you think DM is stellar for whatever it did for the Stephen Lawrence case (shrug) if you are ignoring all the other hate it's been raking for years!

Oh back to reading bewteen the lines

So no one has said that?

Thank you bud that is all i wanted, confirmation that no one has said it

Then Theres perhaps you should be quiet. Stephen Lawrence was butchered by men with a Long list of convictions, many of a racist nature. Racist police didn’t give a toss and the DM fought hard for justice. Your actually legitimising the way SL was treated. Give your head a wobble.

Brass you don’t actually care about murdered black kids do you. I’m not struggling with anything except racism against people like SL.

Imiss have you run out of ideas is that why you're trying to derail with SL?

Oh no, it’s gone crazy.

kissing

I know!!

It has hasnt it!!!

Oh Rufus.. I'm sorry I can't see what you have snatched from my post there.

I didn't categorically state anything... I merely infered that it could be said omission is the greatest lie and some posters omissions of condemnations on thread after thread on Isis..or indeed of countries like Saudi but very vocal on religious threads ( as long as it's only Christianity in the firing line) speaks volumes.

Bejam what on earth are you going On about. I doubt she knows who’s Assad is.

I was talking about Asma Assad and I think she probably has a vague idea who she’s married to.

I also imagine after 4 years in Syria even SB has an inkling about that one.

Nah brass. Couldnt give a flying fuck. You don’t care about SL, that’s obvious. But hey keep saving your concern for a grown women who thinks rape, beheading and torture is ok.

Oh i really dont know why this is difficult

Did someone say it ir not?

Im going with not...

“In fact one poster started a thread asking about Isis and it's aims..the feeling there was this was a poor religious group that needed breathing space away from evil West too spread it's wings... when posters said no..this is Isis... article after article linked.. facts Etc... OP.... Faded...away...”

I wonder who that poster is.....

Oooh i know bertrand i know!!!!!

That’s passed me by. I won’t ask who the poster was...but - assuming they were defending ISIS/Daesh - surely they’ve been banned?

On the subject of omissions: I don't have any sympathy for IS I'm saving that for the people that suffered them first hand especially the Yazidis. The fighters, executioners like the Beatles can't suffer enough in my opinion for what they put those families through. I'm glad in their case they're being shipped to the States with no requirement for assurance that the death penalty is not an option. Satisfying to watch the YouTube interview where they won't admit their part in atrocities but are muling about the prospect of rendition and no one to care because they're stateless. Hurrah. The point is something is happening to them they haven't been left in a camp with the possibility of getting out and resuming their previous activities due to govt atrophy.

Right Rufus, you were responding to this quote of mine:

Suffice to say, over the last few days Shamima’s situation has been described as ‘a tragedy’ and posters have insisted that she is the victim

You actually posted that comment above your response and then went to waffle on about not believing it without evidence. I posted a link to a poster saying exactly those things, so now you’re pretending that your post specifically referred just the exact phrase ‘letting her get away with it’.

Which seems a bit of a misrepresentation went you even quoted my text at the top.

But yes, go and have a look on that thread and there are posters saying she should ‘get away with it’ and be treated as a victim of grooming rather than a criminal.

I wonder who that poster is.....

Was it Claig?

Imiss still struggling and incoherent.

bejam But hey let’s let this vile woman get away with being a member of a muderous rapist cult

rufus Who is doing this?

bejam ’s getting very tiring that the same squad of people on these threads keep demanding that other posters provide links and evidence from the very unwieldy AS. It’s quite obviously because those posters want people who disagree with them tied up searching rather than responding to their BS, so I don’t want to fall into that trap again.Suffice to say, over the last few days Shamima’s situation has been described as ‘a tragedy’ and posters have insisted that she is the victim.

rufus

Suffice to say, over the last few days Shamima’s situation has been described as ‘a tragedy’ and posters have insisted that she is the victim

Right

See ive read the same thread, and ive not seen one single person saying

We should let her get away with this

No one has said it...even people who have said she has been groomed etc haven't said it

So you can get as tired as you please...no one has said this

And to be very very fair to you...someone on this these thread might possibly have said it and ive missed it

But in the absence of any proof im gonna stick with my...no one has said this statement

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