To wonder why Sajid Jarvis was so quick to remove Shamima Begum’s British nationality

[MrsSchadenfreude]

But has done nothing about removing Asma Assad’s? Asma Assad is a dual British-Syrian National, so why not deprive her (and her kids) of British nationality? I can’t quite believe that the government hasn’ Done this. Why on Earth not?

“But even if she did come here, the threat just isn’t comparable. She’s not an Islamic extremist aligned to a group who desire to destroy the west who advocates for the murder of western civilians.”

Dear god are you joking. She’s a very dangerous woman who wants the benefits of the west but wants to destroy it at the same time.

She is a British citizen by birth, surely? I am a British citizen by birth- I could have had dual nationality if I’d got my act together when I was 21 but I was too flaky......

She is a British citizen by birth, surely?

Not necessarily

But in her case yes she is

www.gov.uk/types-of-british-nationality/british-citizenship

Link

Anyway

She is obviously a British citizen otherwise javid wouldn't be able to revoke it

You cant revoke something that doesn't exist

I don’t know why Sajid Jarvis was so quick to remove Shamima Begum’s British nationality, but I am glad he did.

It absolutely is the point that it is fucking disgraceful to dump a problem person on another country who has had nothing to do with creating that problem.

That’s one moral objection. There’s an opposing one which is that because the state has an obligation to keep its citizens safe, she should be barred from the UK if possible. (I don’t agree with the latter, by the way: there are better practical solutions, like having her under our supervision.

But it’s not about being the UK’s problem: a dual citizen can be the responsibility of either state. That’s what dual citizens risk and what generous citizenship policies risk for nations.

Nah soup because you’re not making sense. We don’t live in an imaginary world.

The home offices main concern should be keeping the citizens of the UK safe. A couple of academics have come forward and said the Bangladeshi minister isn’t telling the truth about Bangladeshi citizenship. There’s written confirmation that indicates that they’re going against their own constitution. But hey let’s let this vile woman get away with being a member of a muderous rapist cult.

It absolutely is the point that it is fucking disgraceful to dump a problem person on another country who has had nothing to do with creating that problem.

But it happens, regularly, and usually not working in the UKs favour. We were stuck with Abu Hamza because Egypt stripped his citizenship first. We took several foreign returnees from Guantánamo who weren’t British because it was considered to be safer than returning them to the Arab countries they came from.

And thinking about the damage she could do, that’s going to be fairly minimal in Bangladesh Almost everybody she will come into contact with will be a Sunni Muslim which generally will mean she thinks they deserve to carry on living. In this country she probably won’t believe the majority of the population deserve to live. It’s a no brainer.

The UK takes foreign extremists in order to lessen their threat. It would be nice to think Bangladesh would take Begum in recognition of the fact she’ll be a hell of a lot less likely to commit mass murder there.

But hey let’s let this vile woman get away with being a member of a muderous rapist cult

Who is doing this?

Nah soup because you’re not making sense. We don’t live in an imaginary world.

You've really answered it anyway and it's just as I suspected.

But hey let’s let this vile woman get away with being a member of a muderous rapist cult.

Show me where any one thinks she should get away with this.

There is a whole lot of NIMBYism on this thread.

Rufus the UK is. We will let her back in and give her a hug and a kiss, social housing and everything that comes with it. She will be left to spread her vile message and certain posters on here will say ah bless it wasn’t her fault.

Your right Soup I don’t want her living next to me. Would you? Go on tell the truth.

Dear god are you joking. She’s a very dangerous woman who wants the benefits of the west but wants to destroy it at the same time.

No she’s not. That’s just utter bullshit. The Assad’s want to preserve their power in Syria. They don’t want to destroy the west.

@imissgmichael
If her parents had been British born of Bangladeshi origin , would you still think it was not the UK's problem ?

Talkin

No

There is a whole lot of NIMBYism on this thread

That is, respectfully, bollocks.

Not allowing a person back into the UK because they’ve forgone their citizenship but have the right to another country’s protection is hardly NIMBYism.

Just for the tenth time...I think the government should have accepted her, for practical reasons of protection and monitoring.

@imissgmichael
So, her parents became British before she was born, she is entirely a product of UK society
why is it not the UK's problem?

We will let her back in and give her a hug and a kiss, social housing and everything that comes with it. She will be left to spread her vile message and certain posters on here will say ah bless it wasn’t her fault.

This is the usual bollocks trotted out by daily fail readers. Where has this happened? Which returning IS twat got a hug and a kiss and social housing FFS. Stick to stuff that's really happened cos you know we don't live in an imaginary world.

I think that SB should retain British citizenship and be dealt justice. But just remember she hates and despises you. You are lower than cockroaches in her eyes.

Who is doing this?

It’s getting very tiring that the same squad of people on these threads keep demanding that other posters provide links and evidence from the very unwieldy AS. It’s quite obviously because those posters want people who disagree with them tied up searching rather than responding to their BS, so I don’t want to fall into that trap again.

Suffice to say, over the last few days Shamima’s situation has been described as ‘a tragedy’ and posters have insisted that she is the victim.

I am suddenly enlightened as too view point.

Tory government says...strip her of citizenship.
Corybn says bring her back and offer support.

So the brain washed minions fall in.

Isis are as conservative and far right as you can get. You can't get more sexist groups than Al Shaban, Al Qaeda , Isis
.

But...the sticky for some posters is... politics.

It's awful isn't it!! I cannot imagine the mental gymnastic s some go through to support these murdering groups.

Bejam what on earth are you going On about. I doubt she knows who’s Assad is.

SB is not the sharpest tool in the box. She racist and anti anyone who doesn’t fit in with her idea of Islam. It’s as simple as that. She thinks the west is a pick and mix and she can do exactly what she wants.