AIBU to ask what will actually happen on 29th March... Will we have John Snow narrating a countdown to armegedon? ?

[drivinmecrazy]

Genuine question. How do you think the media will cover it?
Will it be a countdown and then lights out?
Will it be programming as normal?
Will radio be playing poignant tunes?
I'm personally hoping the likes of the Mash Report and Last Leg will be on air to see me through

I'll tell you what will happen - it will be my birthday and I'll be celebrating that

If by planning you mean that the government have planned for civil unrest and food shortages by putting 3500 troops on standby in case of no deal. I guess that's a plan of sorts.

However the commissioning of Seabourne freight service due to 'emergency situations brought about by unforeseeable events' does not actually give much comfort in the governments planning capability.

We planned for the millennium bug over countless reconstructions and re running scenarios. I was involved for 5 years in this extensive project. It was a known event.

NO ONE KNOWS SWEET FUCK ALL WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH 5 WEEKS TO GO and there are hundreds of jobs still available on civil service jobs for Brexit in the event of no deal

Well I plan to do the same thing as I did on Dec 31st 1999 - get completely bladdered and enjoy the fireworks safe in the knowledge that everything has been planned for and nothing disastrous was going to happen.

Oh, wait a minute ...

Better lay in some olives and chorizo (although that does seem a waste - can I substitute stale Eccles cakes and white pudding?).

We're having a Brexit wake party at ours. RIP EUK 1974-2019. Gonna have speeches and everything.

Whatever happens, I really really hope they play Europe “the final countdown” in the run up to 11 pm in the 29 March...

Flopjustwantscoffee, will add that to our play list. I'm going to try and make it a fun night because if I don't laugh I will definitely be crying (and I might have to ration the tissues as we've only got space to stockpile so many)

BorisBogtrotter

But it doesn't make a point, because you didn't initially question where the first figures came from

You are correct that I didn't initially question where the 80 billion pounds figure had come from. I subsequently asked for a link but it wasn't forthcoming - so I've had to find it myself;

It was published in a speech given at the Resolution Foundation on 14 Feb 2019 - by Dr Gertjan Vlieghe, a British-Belgian economist and external member of The Bank of England’s Monetary Policy Committee.

www.resolutionfoundation.org/events/the-economic-outlook-speech-by-mpc-member-gertjan-vlieghe/
www.bankofengland.co.uk/speech/2019/gertjan-vlieghe-speech-at-the-resolution-foundation

Extract:
Consider the following thought experiment:
^What if nothing unusual had happened in the UK domestically and UK growth had been in line with its close historical relationship to the rest of the world? Figure 10 quantifies this thought experiment with what is known as a “synthetic” UK economy without Brexit.10 What is
shown here is how much weaker the economy has been relative to what we might have expected, given the global growth data.The different lines in Figure 11 show estimates using different country groups, just to show that the result is robust to which countries are used to proxy “the rest of the world”.The analysis suggests that since the vote in June 2016, we have lost 2% of GDP relative to a scenario where there had been no significant domestic economic events.^ That amounts to around 40 billion pounds per year, or
800 million per week of lost income for the country as a whole

KennDodd
the other is written by a bunch of Nobel prize winning economists

Dr Vlieghe appears to be a well respected economist and highly rated by George Osborne - nevertheless he gave a rather unfortunate interview to the Evening Standard in April 2016:

www.standard.co.uk/business/gertjan-vlieghe-the-bank-of-england-ratesetter-who-didn-t-even-want-to-be-an-economist-a3231651.html

There's hope for us all yet.Would you believe that one of the Bank of England’s most senior figures — now jointly responsible for setting the country’s interest rates, no less — failed to get into the London School of Economics at the first time of asking?

My ambition was to get to the LSE. It actually took me a few attempts; I didn’t get in straightaway because their masters programme is very competitive

But the Bank of England “wasn’t that much on my radar”
It was only when he had an “interesting conversation” with some Bank representatives at an LSE careers fair that he considered it , although he mistakenly thought at first he might be excluded because of his nationality (he’s since taken dual citizenship)

Although he won’t be drawn from the Bank’s neutrality on the big vote, he is a European citizen who has benefited from the free movement of labour

I think Theresa May will sign a letter on the 29th to revoke article 50 but then the courier fails to arrive in Brussels on time before 11pm with the letter and then accidentally drives over a cliff

I agree Girlsblouse17 in the style of John Cleese in Clockwise.

@flirtygirl

However the commissioning of Seabourne freight service due to 'emergency situations brought about by unforeseeable events' does not actually give much comfort in the governments planning capability.

Not to mention the commissioning of a freight service from a port - Ramsgate - that is not prepared to handle such traffic.

We know what they've been wasting spending the last two years doing - completely failing to create the plan that should have been in place before ever the option to leave the EU was put to the public, let alone before triggering A50.

I think we are going to have a sad party at my parents house. Round up all our fellow 'citizens of nowhere' and have some good food and assorted national alcohols.

Then at 11pm I'm going to drunkenly attempt the flute part of ode to joy like a musician on the titanic!

I think I'll find a way of flying the EU flag. Anyone else want to get hold of one?

Last leg have said they'll do a special show especially as they finish at 11pm which with the time difference with Europe is really when brexit will happen. It's their season finale anyway I believe. I watch every week anyway.

I'm on several Facebook groups that are politically oriented and it's quite scary how often certain nees items are now being prefaced as "not satire" that's how utterly stupid and bonkers politics has got in the uk!

Backforgood bloody hell I think that's the earliest on a brexit thread ever I've seen a brexit myth bingo entry! IT & telecoms people around the world worked for YEARS to deal with the Millenium bug, it didn't just miraculously not happen. And they were able to because we knew what both the problem and the solution was and it was implemented. Also it was OVER 19 YEARS AGO how have you gone nearly 2 decades without knowing why y2k didn't happen?

With brexit the govt can't even agree on IF There's a problem! Let alone what exactly the problem/s might and what possible solutions we need to the myriad issues - even though bankers, traders, economists, historians and other experts have been trying to get heard on these.

"and nobody had to take Jacob Rees-Smug's view into account which would probably have been to revert to the abacus." OMG that's so true. I HATE that guy, he'd happily have me in an institution probably in a straitjacket!

Beautyfromtheblock how awful for you re your parents. I have a few leave votes among my friends and family but mainly out of not understanding certain things and feeling the U.K. Needs to be completely free to set and enforce its own laws. Not saying they're right my point is only one showed themselves to be the day after the result an outright nasty racist! Not a particularly close friend so had no problem cutting them off. What I have found somewhat interesting bloody hilarious in an ironic way is she's Welsh and is the daughter and wife of farmers who voted remain because they've benefitted greatly from Eu subsidies apparently her and her dh had some rather heated discussions not least because he didn't know she'd voted leave until the day after the result when she was crowing all over Facebook!

I have certainly noticed the gradual quietening of the leave voters as times gone on and it's become less deniable how bad they fucked up!

Even noticed it on here.

What's shocked me is how utterly thick the mps are!! Eg Dominic raab went to Oxford AND Cambridge how fucking embarrassing for them to have turned out someone so completely stupid!!

"Brexit is a marathon and the consequences and benefits will appear over many, many months as we move forwards they won't just appear on the actual day we leave." I completely disagree the vote result alone caused an instant drop in value of the £, yes it recovered slightly but that was just the vote! I also have friends & family who work in certain areas eg customs checks who are dreading it even though there's been lip service paid to additional staff being laid on etc

"Can I suggest we add to Gormless playlist with all the greatest products of the Eurovision Song Contest and cheesy Europop for the past however many years?" Irony? Given the main British Eurovision song many of us know is Buck's Fizz - making your mind up

Something our govt are blatantly incapable of.

"Whatever happens, I really really hope they play Europe “the final countdown” in the run up to 11 pm in the 29 March..." Good call

I think I might get hold of an EU flag.

@doIreallyneedto

The only people expecting the sky to fall in for Y2K were ill-informed, melodramatic, and presumably daily mail, or equivalent, readers.

Whatever your thoughts on those people, you can't deny there was a lot of hype and speculation about things that might happen and then nothing actually did happened.

Whether you personally expected something to happen is neither here or there. All carried on as before whereas some people expected 'something' to happen.

I think it will be the birth of the Rejoin campaign. All the Remain groups and networks are set up and our young people are overwhelmingly wanting to stay, as the disaster of Brexit unfolds Rejoin will gain real political traction. I think it'll take ten years, but then well be back in the EU minus the £ and the rebate.

We won’t be rejoining the EU ever.
Do you think any PM ever again will give us another referendum ;

We'll just have to see how things play out over next decade.

If things aren't looking good after 10 or so years.... but if youth see's they can still access Europe Etc... appetit will fade.

I was chatting to large group of teens a few months ago about Brexit and ironically the only clued up one's were the handful of leavers

The majority of remainers did seem too think they couldn't travel to Europe anymore, and stuff like that and seemed more sheep like... falling in with narrative rather than seeking out solid remain reasons.
So if they all see nothing much changes then don't count on their vote.

This is the problem when kid's are not educted too see both sides of an issue and argue for both sides.

Rejoin wouldn't have to be done by referendum. Parties could put it in their election manifesto.

Do you think any PM ever again will give us another referendum

Yes. If they thought promising a referendum would win them votes, just like David Cameron did.

Rejoin wouldn't have to be done by referendum. Parties could put it in their election manifesto

All the mainstream parties in the 1970 general election had in their manifesto to join the EEC so there wasn't actually a party to choose (apart from more extreme parties) if you didn't want to join the EEC

I'm pretty sure that the food supply chain will have toppled over well before the 29th
(as lorry drivers will make darned sure they are back home rather than stuck on the M20 when the day comes)
so the roads will be VERY quiet
and the shops will be getting rather empty
and of course lots of big manufacturers will be on their planned shut downs