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It’s a National Non-Emergency: Trump thread 91

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TheClaws · 17/02/2019 23:44

Here we are in February 2019 - Trump has declared a National Emergency to funnel the funds for his border wall, he’s just come off a ridiculous SOTU that contained more lies than not, and he’s just tweeted this:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
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“These guys, the investigators, ought to be in jail. What they have done, working with the Obama intelligence agencies, is simply unprecedented. This is one of the greatest political hoaxes ever perpetrated on the people of this Country, and Mueller is a coverup.” Rush Limbaugh

But here’s a reminder he’s not one of the sharpest tools in the box.

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AcrossthePond55 · 21/02/2019 22:37

I'm sure that was part of it, too, cozie. I think it was because he was greeting and chatting to his 'fans' on the courthouse steps.

Savonarola, lol. I just thought of it as bad plastic surgery. I don't know what it is about men who have 'eye jobs'. They just never look quite right afterwards. Stone, Kenny Rogers, Burt Reynolds...they all ended up with the same weird eyes.

TheClaws · 21/02/2019 23:57

Still out on bail, amazingly.

POLITICO
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Roger Stone must shut up about Robert Mueller and the Russia investigation

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TheClaws · 22/02/2019 02:11

A quote from Tucker Carlson’s show on Fox. Mind you, his guest was a Brit (not sure of his name) who said the pearler below.

Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
“The white supremacists are American citizens. The illegal immigrants are people who shouldn’t be here.”

twitter.com/atrupar/status/1098761825255067648?s=20

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TheClaws · 22/02/2019 05:07

This is the full text of an open letter from Rep. Adam Schiff to Republican colleagues. It was published in the Washington Post, behind the paywall, but I felt it needed to be read by a wider audience so I copied it here. Full rights belong to Schiff and the WaPo.

By Adam B. Schiff
February 21 at 6:06 PM
Adam B. Schiff, a Democrat, represents California’s 28th Congressional District in the House and is chairman of the Intelligence Committee.

This is a moment of great peril for our democracy. Our country is deeply divided. Our national discourse has become coarse, indeed, poisonous. Disunity and dysfunction have paralyzed Congress.

And while our attention is focused inward, the world spins on, new authoritarian regimes are born, old rivals spread their pernicious ideologies, and the space for freedom-loving peoples begins to contract violently. At last week’s Munich Security Conference, the prevailing sentiment among our closest allies is that the United States can no longer be counted on to champion liberal democracy or defend the world order we built.

For the past two years, we have examined Russia’s interference in the 2016 election and its attempts to influence the 2018 midterms. Moscow’s effort to undermine our democracy was spectacularly successful in inflaming racial, ethnic and other divides in our society and turning American against American.

But the attack on our democracy had its limits. Russian President Vladimir Putin could not lead us to distrust our own intelligence agencies or the FBI. He could not cause us to view our own free press as an enemy of the people. He could not undermine the independence of the Justice Department or denigrate judges. Only we could do that to ourselves. Although many forces have contributed to the decline in public confidence in our institutions, one force stands out as an accelerant, like gas on a fire. And try as some of us might to avoid invoking the arsonist’s name, we must say it.

I speak, of course, of our president, Donald Trump.

How to prove obstruction of justice: Did the suspect have corrupt intent, and would the actions, if successful, be likely to obstruct the proceeding? (Joshua Carroll/The Washington Post)
The president has just declared a national emergency to subvert the will of Congress and appropriate billions of dollars for a border wall that Congress has explicitly refused to fund. Whether you support the border wall or oppose it, you should be deeply troubled by the president’s intent to obtain it through a plainly unconstitutional abuse of power.

To my Republican colleagues: When the president attacked the independence of the Justice Department by intervening in a case in which he is implicated, you did not speak out. When he attacked the press as the enemy of the people, you again were silent. When he targeted the judiciary, labeling judges and decisions he didn’t like as illegitimate, we heard not a word. And now he comes for Congress, the first branch of government, seeking to strip it of its greatest power, that of the purse.

Many of you have acknowledged your deep misgivings about the president in quiet conversations over the past two years. You have bemoaned his lack of decency, character and integrity. You have deplored his fundamental inability to tell the truth. But for reasons that are all too easy to comprehend, you have chosen to keep your misgivings and your rising alarm private.

That must end. The time for silent disagreement is over. You must speak out.

This will require courage. The president is popular among your base, which revels in his vindictive and personal attacks on members of his own party, even giants such as the late senator John McCain. Speaking up risks a primary challenge or accusations of disloyalty. But such acts of independence are the most profound demonstrations of loyalty to country.

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III may soon conclude his investigation and report. Depending on what is in that report and what we find in our own investigations, our nation may face an even greater challenge. While I am alarmed at what we have already seen and found of the president’s conduct and that of his campaign, I continue to reserve judgment about what consequences should flow from our eventual findings. I ask you to do the same.

If we cannot rise to the defense of our democracy now, in the face of a plainly unconstitutional aggrandizement of presidential power, what hope can we have that we will do so with the far greater decisions that could be yet to come?

Although these times pose unprecedented challenges, we have been through worse. The divisions during the Vietnam War and the civil rights movement were just as grave and far more deadly. The Depression and World War II were far more consequential. And nothing can compare to the searing experience of the Civil War.

If Abraham Lincoln, the father of the Republican Party, could be hopeful that our bonds of affection would be strained but not broken by a war that pitted brother against brother, surely America can come together once more. But as long as we must endure the present trial, history compels us to speak, and act, our conscience, Republicans and Democrats alike.

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Roussette · 22/02/2019 07:50

Now, if I understand correctly, it's a total gag order, he can't say anything about anything to anyone

I imagine that's like depriving him of oxygen.

Agree with you Lion you've got all these creatures associated with Trump but I find him the most revolting, a cocky bastard.

Thank you Claws for the Schiff letter.

EweSurname · 22/02/2019 09:54

David Clark
@DavidKClark
Huge story breaking in Italy. Putin agreed to a request from Lega Nord leader Matteo Salvini to covertly finance his Euro election campaign. The plan was to conceal the payment behind an apparently normal business deal. Sound familiar?
espresso.repubblica.it/inchieste/2019/02/20/news/esclusivo-lega-milioni-russia-1.331835

[i ran it through google translate]

EweSurname · 22/02/2019 11:05

Olga Lautman
@olgaNYC1211
Every whistleblower is being charged for exposing crimes that actually led to convictions yet Trump and his whole criminal Russian mafia cabal walks around free continuing to commit crimes

IRS analyst charged in leak of Michael Cohen's bank records

edition-m.cnn.com/2019/02/21/politics/michael-cohen-tax-returns/index.html

EweSurname · 22/02/2019 11:10

From last week

'Whistleblower' seeks protection after sounding alarm over White House security clearances

Tricia Newbold says her supervisor "repeatedly mishandled security files and has approved unwarranted security clearances."

www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/whistleblower-seeks-protection-after-sounding-alarm-over-white-house-security-n970586

There’s a lot in the article about security issues re:kushner but the callousness of this bit is shocking

In April 2018, she filed an Equal Employment Opportunity complaint alleging that he discriminated against her because of her height. Newbold has a rare form of dwarfism.

In her equal opportunity complaint, Newbold indicated that Kline had moved files out of her reach telling her that she could ask her staff to get files for her if she needed them. Two sources familiar with the matter confirmed the files were moved out of Newbold’s reach.

EweSurname · 22/02/2019 11:12

Sarah Kendzior
@sarahkendzior
I'm still stuck on the fact that the US Treasury was infiltrated by Russia in 2015 and no one did anything about it except arrest the whistleblower

www.buzzfeednews.com/article/anthonycormier/russian-agents-sought-us-treasury-records-on-clinton-backers

PerkingFaintly · 22/02/2019 11:24

Talking of election funding, I'm alarmed to read The Independent Group in the UK has constituted itself as a company, not a party, and is therefore not bound by same rules.

Who is funding The Independent Group?
metro.co.uk/2019/02/20/funding-independent-group-8686972/

Being a private company means the group aren’t held to account by the Electoral Commission Watchdog, and don’t need to declare their donors.

To be fair, The Independent Group states on its website:
www.theindependent.group/policy/donations-policy
The company is neither a political party nor a non-party campaigner, as such terms are used by the Electoral Commission in accordance with the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000 (PPERA).

Despite that, the company wishes only to accept donations that would meet the legal requirements set out in PPERA for donations.

But best intentions and all that shizzle. This had better just be a very, very temporary arrangement, and they should regularise themselves and come under electoral legislation tout suite.

MerdedeBrexit · 22/02/2019 11:24

Thank you for the text of Adam Schiff's open letter, TheClaws. Fascinating reading, but probably too late to be effective. Or maybe not, this looks quite positive, if it's not overly optimistic.

www.palmerreport.com/analysis/very-bad-news-trump-mueller-devastating/16146/

AcrossthePond55 · 22/02/2019 14:17

Rep Schiff can be very eloquent, can't he? Although I'm pretty sure he knows his words will fall on deaf ears in DC. I'm rather of the opinion, though, that his 'target audience' is not really GOP legislators, but the more moderate of Scrotus' supporters. Because to 'get' to the legislators he's going to have to rouse their constituents and I'm pretty sure he knows that.

cozietoesie · 22/02/2019 14:46

Agreed.

cozietoesie · 22/02/2019 16:36

So we await an appropriations vote?

cozietoesie · 22/02/2019 16:37

Sorry. At least one.......

cozietoesie · 22/02/2019 16:54

It will be interesting to see what Tammy Duckworth has to say............

cozietoesie · 22/02/2019 18:50

(They're all scared to pieces by her.) Grin

cozietoesie · 22/02/2019 19:23
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EweSurname · 22/02/2019 20:32

Shimon Prokupecz
@ShimonPro
Mueller’s report will not be delivered next week, according to a DOJ official.

EweSurname · 22/02/2019 20:45

Jake Tapper
@jaketapper
Asked about criticism of Labor Sec’y Acosta for his handling as US Attorney of Jeffrey Epstein’s sex abuse of underage girls, POTUS said “I really don’t know too much about it. I know he’s done a great job as labor secretary and that seems like a long time ago,”

And

Sarah Kendzior
@sarahkendzior
"Donald Trump is friends with at least five pedophiles, most of whom were involved in sex trafficking or blackmail schemes. There's Epstein, Casablancas, Arif, Nader, Cohn. Who the hell is friends with five pedophiles?!"

cozietoesie · 22/02/2019 20:47

When is the 'summit'?

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