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to assume my new neighbour is a massive racist?

178 replies

QoFE · 11/02/2019 13:06

New neighbours over the road moved in over the weekend.

They have 3 vehicles, one car each and a sports car.

The sports car has what can only be a personalised number plate reading XXXX KKK (obvs not actually XXXX but a combination of letters and numbers that would definitely be one you'd have to pay for).

So... Why would you pay for a number plate with KKK on? DP thinks I'm being judgemental and maybe it was the only one with the first part that they wanted so they overlooked the ending but surely nobody would do that? I mean it's like having a number plate reading N4ZI - you just wouldn't would you?

OP posts:
deydododatdodontdeydo · 13/02/2019 08:48

I genuinely had no idea most people in the UK didn't know about the KKK

Pretty sure most people in this country do know about the KKK, but consider it something that exists far away and not at all relevant in this country.

RiverTam · 13/02/2019 08:52

Yes, agree with you, OP. The ignorance that has been displayed is very depressing. As you say, in living memory. Lest we forget.

Ihavealwaysknown · 13/02/2019 08:56

My initials (through marriage) are KKK... mind you I wouldn’t slap them on a number plate 🤷🏻‍♀️

Maybe go introduce yourself to them they may well all have K names or something of the like

RiverTam · 13/02/2019 09:01

and it didn't occur to you on that basis not to take your husband's name? There is no way I would have taken a K surname if my first 2 initials were KK!

IDoN0tCare · 13/02/2019 09:19

and it didn't occur to you on that basis not to take your husband's name?

Are you for real? You’re actually telling someone that they shouldn’t have taken her husband’s name, in case some twit is offended by her initials? Good grief!

RiverTam · 13/02/2019 09:21

I would be offended by the initials. I would not have those initials for myself.

PBo83 · 13/02/2019 09:25

I deal in private registrations and without knowing the rest of the plate it's impossible to tell their intentions.

For example "R111KKK" is likely to be bought by a Rick and they wouldn't have even considered the KKK part.

Personally it seems unlikely that it has been bought with racist intentions and, without any context, the letters ''KKK" can hardly be deemed offensive on their own.

PBo83 · 13/02/2019 09:32

@RiverTam

So you would rather offend your husband (and family) by not taking his name than (potentially) offend an ignorant stranger who knows you by your full name and makes the connection?

IDoN0tCare · 13/02/2019 09:43

would be offended by the initials. I would not have those initials for myself.

You must be very easily offended. While the organisation of the KKK is disgusting, you are taking about the woman’s initials.

What about the code for Hewanorra International Airport? That’s UVF. My cousin was murdered by the IVF, should I write a letter of complaint?

Maybe I should complain to the financial ombudsman about all the banks having ‘Individual Retirement Accounts’ IRA? After all, my other wicked cousin was in the IRA and my uncle was shot by them, when they missed the policeman they were aiming at.

Do you see how ridiculous it sounds, when you tell a woman that the initials of her NAME offends you. Don’t be one of those people. Don’t feed that snowflake expression that so many use.

RiverTam · 13/02/2019 09:51

I wouldn't care to be married to a man that got offended if I didn't want to take his name for any reason. How extraordinary to put a man's potential offence (or his family's!) over a woman's considerations.

This is about choice. I can choose not to have those initials (as long as my parents weren't ignorant enough to give them to me in the first place) and I can choose what number plate I have on my car.

I wouldn't choose the initials KKK, just as I wouldn't choose the initials IRA or UDF. I'm not American or Irish - and I'm not ignorant.

deadliftgirl · 13/02/2019 09:58

Why are you so concerned with your new neighbours numbers plates?

Focus on your own life and if they are racist its really none of your business unless you actually see them being racist towards you or someone else.

Roussette · 13/02/2019 10:11

QofE I'm totally with you on this. I would be shocked to see a NDN with that personalised number plate and yes I would judge. Massively.

If your NDNs are middle aged they will know exactly what it stands for.

p.s. Are you the Queen of England?! Your name leads me to that conclusion Grin

derxa · 13/02/2019 10:27

www.nationalnumbers.co.uk/search.php?search_key=kkk
Here you go!!

BusterGonad · 13/02/2019 11:27

This thread is getting better by the hour. Grin

QoFE · 13/02/2019 12:08

@Roussette no it stands for Queen Of Fucking Everything Grin but I lost that username in a flounce years ago

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Lizzie48 · 13/02/2019 13:27

@RiverTam

I thought about refusing to take my DH's surname because it's the surname of a famous female killer. (One of my work colleagues said to me, 'At least your name isn't X.') My middle name has her initial. If it had been my first name, I probably would have refused, though I think it would have upset him and his family as well.

Mind you, my maiden name comes from my abusive F, so I don't like that anyway. It also led to me going through years of bullying at school.

Oh well, nearly 16 years have passed and it no longer matters to me who else might share our surname.

Roussette · 13/02/2019 14:08

QoFE Phew, I'm glad that's who you are. Queenie should have naice NDNs after all Grin

2beesornot2beesthatisthehoney · 13/02/2019 14:16

Actually I did have a number plate which was just that. Believe it or not it was a genuine standard run of the mill plate approved by DVLA, and not removed from the system like they do with others that look like swear words.

Thing was the car was a lovely ex demonstration model and just what I wanted. I looked into getting it changed but the DVLA would not do it for free and it was just too expensive .
It’s not a (by now very old) blue Renault is it ?

goldengummybear · 13/02/2019 14:17

I've come back to this thread and gobsmacked at people not knowing who the KKK are. Have you never heard references on TV/film about racists in white hoods?

I've lived in Germany and you couldn't have SS on registration plates for obvious reasons. Is that a more obvious reference to people who don't know the KKK?

RiverTam · 13/02/2019 14:22

I wouldn't (now) be surprised if you get a load of people astonished that anyone under 60 should be expected to know who the SS were. I appreciate that as a set of initials it's a lot harder to avoid than the KKK - but it's more than we shouldn't, apparently, expect people to remember these atrocities.

BoringPerson · 13/02/2019 14:38

I think you are wrong to assume that they are either racists or that they don't know what the Klu Klux Klan is.

I know what the klu klux klan is but would still happily have a car with KKK on it. (In the UK at any rate)

IDoN0tCare · 13/02/2019 14:46

I've lived in Germany and you couldn't have SS on registration plates for obvious reasons. Is that a more obvious reference to people who don't know the KKK?

Everyone knows what it stands for, but since this is the UK & NI, the American hate group doesn’t impact on people, in the same way. You might as well say Spain should ban all their number plates with kkk on them.

Lizzie48 · 13/02/2019 14:57

There's no problem with having number plates with SS on them in this country, though, as far as I'm aware (I can't recall offhand whether I've actually seen cars with that number plate, though, I probably will now, though!). It stands for Social Services, too, though, and is often to be seen on these boards.

You wouldn't see a number plate with NA4I, obviously, as has been said.

Witchend · 13/02/2019 15:28

My friend's dm had a car which when it arrived had 666 as part of the numberplate. She considered asking for it to be changed, but decided that it wasn't worth the hassle.

Lizzie48 · 13/02/2019 15:53

I was just thinking about that number! I wouldn't much like that either!

I don't think it would really offend your neighbours, they would feel sympathy if anything. Grin

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