If women are expected to donate eggs and a uterus, men should donate their penis and testicles?

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I see from the comments here people are happy for women alive and dead to donate, if that's ok then why aren't transmen being offered the same primary sex organs?

Is what's good enough for the cervix haver is good enough for the ejaculator?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6685681/Leading-British-surgeon-calls-transgender-women-life-changing-womb-transplants.html

If you have an organ transplant you have to take drugs for life to avoid rejecting it, don’t you? Given that pregnant women are vilified if they look in the direction of a beer/soft cheese/rare steak etc then surely nobody pregnant could be taking the amount of medication needed post-transplant anyway? It would be incredibly unethical to experiment with a foetus in order to allow a transwoman to experience pregnancy.

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I’m sorry your dd is so poorly. It is very disturbing how poorly nhs funds are distributed.

Op I wasn’t being unkind. It was an observation that you seem really stressed out about this,

Personally I am indifferent to the subject tbh

You're being ridiculous. NO one is expected to donate their uterus or eggs. I'd be happy to personally but you don't have to.

Should uterus’s not be offered to women who need them first?

Transwomen should never have a uterus transplant. Most sexual offenders are men, and that does not exclude biological males. I would worry for the conceived's life to be honest but I doubt a uterus transplant could ever materialise.

What on earth does this mean? You think men shouldn't have kids because they might be sexual offenders? Does that include gay men adopting or single dads having custody? Or were you just randomly brain dumping unrelated statements into a nonsensical post.

You are entitled to be indifferent.

Another person is entitled to post that IABU.

I would like to discuss the subject because all the focus elsewhere is on transwomen receiving primary sex organs and not transmen.

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In an overpopulated world I would say no.

You know, I have no idea if you can choose to only donate certain organs, just tried to Google but doesn't come up with an immediate answer. Is a uterus even down as an organ that can be donated?

Going to do a bit more research, and make sure I opt out if I can't refuse to donate certain organs my uterus

Please don’t take yourself off the donor register just because your worried a man will be given your ovaries or uterus. Firstly that’s not how donating in this country works, secondly you can specify what you are or aren’t willing to donate. Why deny someone lungs that you were happy to donate until you read an article that your ovaries might be used? Just make your wishes known.

Right now the transplant list is very long, people are dying waiting but the list is long with people for lungs, liver, kidney, heart, intestine etc. There’s no ovary waiting list.

As for a penis donation, I could actually see that happening one day and why not? If the donor is happy for any part to be used, why not enable a man who lost their penis to feel normal and be able to pee.

I’m on the register for everything but my family know I’m not comfortable at the moment with face donation. It’s not the worry about my face but I don’t want at the funeral my family sitting there knowing I’m faceless in the coffin

I’m on the organ donation list and will leave the decision of who receives what organs to the doctors at the time. Out of choice I would prefer my womb not be used because I would worry about it not being strong enough to carry another baby but that would be my only concern. This concern stems from the fact I am currently pregnant, so will have had four c sections and one of my babies died because of something that happened in the womb. The reasoning behind it happening is unknown so I would hate for someone, ciswoman or transwoman, to experience the death of their baby because of my womb.

I am curious as to how readily wombs will be fit for purpose to be transplanted. Many women will have already had children and around 1 in 4 will deliver by a c section. As a transgender woman will, I assume, have to give birth by c section, I would question the additional risks to the baby that could be caused by a donated womb that has already had caesarean cuts.

I wouldn't donate my ovaries as presumably that would include my eggs and therefore my genetic children? Not something I would personally be comfortable with. And I would donate my uterus to a woman but not to a man as I think it's unethical.

Not sure we'll be given the choice once it's opt-out so I guess it will be important to make next of kin aware of preferences. (And that will probably mean me saying no to both uterus and ovaries, as I'm sure you won't be able to set conditions on who receives them.)

It’s not a strange post, it’s something we should worry about because many people will be unaware of what organs you have agreed to donate (if it becomes a opt out you could end up having alsorts taken), you used to be able to select which organs you were happy to be taken?

I wouldn’t want to give my womb to a man but I would happily give it to a woman but will we be able to have a choice?

Er, wasn't aware that women are EXPECTED to donate eggs / uterus

It gives you a list of organs you can donate, heart, lungs corneas etc.

You can either tick the boxes your happy to donate or pick the choose all box.

The problem with choose all is I assume that gives them permission to take things not on the tick box list (like uterus or possibly in the future hands or face etc ) because that list would theoretically change in the 20/30/50 years since you originally opted to donate as medical science moves on.

Er, wasn't aware that women are EXPECTED to donate eggs / uterus

well it won't be men donating them, will it? So that leaves....women!

Everyone on this site is so anti daily mail until it’s whipping up some hysteria about trans people 🙄

Huh?

No-one is "expecting" anyone to donate anything. The Deemed Consent Bill is very clear that it will not apply to all organs and tissues. In particular, it is stated that it will not cover transplants that are currently rare and which may not be regarded as normal to donate. And, of course, everyone will be free to opt out.

This is nothing more than silly scaremongering.

men donate sperm and have done a lot longer than women have donated eggs.

I am more than happy for my uterus/ovaries to go to another woman in order to facilitate her having a child.

But trans women literally are women.

The original suggestion that transwomen had a right to donated uteruses was made by an idiot plastic surgeon, who clearly doesn't specialise in obstetrics and has a skewed sense of reality. So it's not very likely, though the proposition does reveal a very toxic vision of women as items to be harvested for the benefit of transwomen.

It’s never going to work - a man having a baby. Pregnant women aren’t just walking wombs; there’s a lot more to it than a baby and an incubator

It’s never going to work - a man having a baby.

But trans women are women. So it will work - dont be so bigoted.