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Why does the mother almost always get the blame?

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StopLazyJournosCopyingContent · 08/02/2019 14:58

I don’t normally have much time for Katie Price, but she seems to be getting a very hard time for putting Harvey into residential care during school time.

None of us can know what he is like in real life, but he seems to have some very challenging additional needs, and she’s looked after him without any input from his father for years. Why are people haranguing and trolling her for making this decision when Dwight Yorke does absolutely fuck-all?

It’s more a rant than an AIBU really; whilst of course there are many men who do their share and more, it seems that so much of the expectation and criticism falls on women. “Babysitting”; “daddy daycare” - this attitude is so old-fashioned Angry

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cestlavielife · 08/02/2019 19:05

Some places won't take private funding

AhhhHereItGoes · 08/02/2019 19:15

Despite her flaw it's clear KP loves her children. Many of her other behaviours are questionable but I do get the impression she does want the best for her kids.

Harvey has a very similar visual impairment to me and with his additional needs I can see why it's intense living with him.

I hope whatever happens Harvey can reach his potential.

TimetohittheroadJack · 08/02/2019 19:15

Peter had Harvey, Junior and Princess in the Summer when Price was gallivanting with her lasted beau - the other two Jett and Bunny were with Kieron
Or you could say

Peter Andre looked after his own kids for a weekend last summer and ,as he was Harvey’s stepdad for a long time, asked him along.

The younger two went to their dads for a holiday too.

KP took advantage of a bit of free time and went on holiday too.

StopLazyJournosCopyingContent · 08/02/2019 20:13

Ariadne - twitter trolls mostly. I don’t want to repeat such nasty things, but here is an article which explains KP’s response. There’s lots more online.

Dwight Yorke is a dreadful human being for not wanting any contact with his son, and there’s some really interesting posts on this thread. I was just really thinking how, yes KP puts the kids out there (because that’s how she makes money, selling her life), so to some extent she opens herself up to criticism, but come on, she’s done so much more than DY!

It’s a tiny thing on the scale, but when my husband takes our baby for a walk without me, someone will inevitably comment on him doing a good job/babysitting etc, and it winds me up so much.

www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/katie-price-slams-trolls-after-abuse-over-putting-harvey-into-care-think-twice-judging-me-a4059891.html%3famp

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MadMum101 · 08/02/2019 20:25

I read that DW paid KP's mum a salary for being Harvey's carer? He also has always paid maintenance? KP made access difficult and then put Harvey into the public eye so he stepped away? She also refused to let PA see him after their split?

Not sure what is true.

I make absolutely no judgements about Harvey going into a residential placement. I'm sure KP has picked the best and he will get stability and the best care as his Mum is well known. It's probably the best thing for him at his age and with his SN.

I judge her on lots of other things though and she invites it by being a media 'personality'.

BejamNostalgia · 09/02/2019 12:56

I believe that KP actively stopped PA from seeing Harvy after they split so I’m not sure that that’s fair on him, whatever people might think of him otherwise.

I think KP and Peter Andre had a bit of a battle going on about Harvey after they split.He said she wouldn't let him see Harvey, then she said it was him who wasn't bothering.

Peter had Harvey, Junior and Princess in the Summer when Price was gallivanting with her lasted beau - the other two Jett and Bunny were with Keiron

None of these are true. When she went away her children were with their fathers except Harvey who stayed at home with his nanny. Harvey definitely wasn’t with PA.

And she didn’t stop PA seeing them either. KP made a perfectly reasonable request for a profoundly disabled child that his care team remained in place when he visited. PA refused as not having her employees in his house was more important than seeing Harvey, so he effectively stopped seeing him.

His relationship now, seeing him at children’s parties etc, Otis that of an ex stepfather, not of a father.

Anyway, the fact remains that KP is the only parent figure who’s stuck with him throughout his childhood.

The80sweregreat · 09/02/2019 13:01

Agree. She has always stuck up for her son.
She may not be perfect but who is?
His dad hadn't done anything for him but is mostly left alone.
Always the same.

WickedWitchInTheCupboard · 09/02/2019 13:20

Like her or hate her I have always honestly admired the way she is with Harvey. It must be so difficult and you cannot say she doesn't show her love for him.

She has always always stuck by him (as a mother should) and challenged bullies etc...

I think she's an absolutely fantastic mother to him. I could say a lot of bad things about her but certainly not where Harvey is concerned.

MiceSqueakCatsMeow · 09/02/2019 13:49

KP took advantage of a bit of free time and went on holiday too.
To take cocaine.
Who wants their Mum to take cocaine on holiday and have it splashed all over the media? Also why is she spending money on drugs when she's bankrupt?
Many famous people have dcs and don't put their dcs personal details in the public eye.

HalfBloodPrincess · 09/02/2019 13:54

I’m not a Katie Price fan, but I have a lot of respect for the way she’s handling this. It takes a lot of guts to admit you need help as a parent, and even more guys to go against your parenting instinct to protect your child to do what you think is best for them.

WickedWitchInTheCupboard · 09/02/2019 14:02

MiceSqueakCatsMeow I imagine you'd be surprised at how many celebrity (and non celebrity) parents take drugs when they aren't with their children.

I'm not excusing it but I guarantee there are thousands of parents who do the same thing just not in the media.

bumblenbean · 09/02/2019 14:04

Not a fan of KP but it’s hard enough taking care of a gaggle of able-bodied kids, let alone one with needs as extensive as Harvey’s. I would struggle hugely and so I have respect for all she’s done to look after and raise Harvey without Dwight, who is less than useless.

MiceSqueakCatsMeow · 09/02/2019 20:07

There were a group of school mums at my sons' infant school who were known for their Friday night is cocaine night get togethers. In my opinion once you become a parent you don't do illegal drugs.

WickedWitchInTheCupboard · 10/02/2019 09:08

Mice, obviously I agree. It's not something I would do.

I'm just pointing out that there are literally thousands of parents who do the same. I bet there are at least a few people you've come across in life who do it even if you wouldn't think so.

I couldn't believe how common it actually was when I started a big job in my local city. Well respected people (and parents) were doing all sorts on a weekend that I'm sure the teachers at their kids school would never imagine them doing. It's shocking.

OhDearGodLookAtThisMess · 10/02/2019 21:45

Katie Price frustrates me no end, for all sorts of reasons, but I cannot fault her where Harvey is concerned. I've just watched her video footage of his trip to London on the train, and I take my hat off to how she interacts with him and has trained him to be polite. Bless him.

But I wouldn't like to witness a lad that size kicking off! He's huge and she's tiny. She HAS to protect both herself and her other kids, although it's still not clear how much of their time they spend with her. She was a bit vague when interviewed about it recently and I'm not sure I believed her mumbled, "it's back to normal, half and half." For a start, Junior and Princess are enrolled in a new school close to Peter, and with KP currently banned from driving, I don't see how she could get them there easily. I suspect they might be better off (for now) living in what seems to be the much calmer and less chaotic home that Peter and Emily offer.

Oakmaiden · 11/02/2019 09:28

Peter had Harvey, Junior and Princess in the Summer when Price was gallivanting with her lasted beau - the other two Jett and Bunny were with Keiron Hyder

Wow - the inferences and judgement in this statement! I don't know where to start!

OhDearGodLookAtThisMess · 11/02/2019 11:38

But, re: the original question about mothers always getting the blame, it's like when the media refer to "single mothers," as being to blame for their kids going off the rails. When actually, they're the ones that stayed around, usually while the dads fucked off.

Whatafustercluck · 11/02/2019 12:18

I agree.

Not a fan of KP, but generally admire the way she's raised Harvey in particular. I can't imagine how difficult his needs are to deal with.

SaveKevin · 11/02/2019 12:56

Yes goes without saying Dwight is a complete fucking arse!

Did anyone remember the program she did about living with Harvey? It was on years ago when she had taken her other kids of TV? It was an incredible program and showed how much her mum did for Harvey and just how much extra support he needed and how little support other parents got? She was fighting for his school to stay open and turn into a free school
She was quite honest about how she could pay for a lot of the care but clearly not all could.

She came across so well on it it was a brilliant program. Her and Harveys relationship seems to have been her one rock so making this decision has to be incredibly hard for her.

I do feel for her after the shit she's been through, its clear she just wants her happy ever after, but my god i could shake the woman with some of her decisions!!! She just hasn't had that trust and support around her (bar her mum and brother) to keep her on track. Pretty much every person who was meant to be there for her has shat on her in one way or another.

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