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Farmers dogs on public footpath

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Cuppateeee · 02/02/2019 15:49

Just been on a lovely walk in the countryside, only to be spoiled by a shouty farmer. Need a different perspective on it otherwise it will just wind me up. Will include picture.

Walking with my dog on a lead through a field, staying on the public footpath when I see two border collies barking in the distance. I stay where I am to look for a farmer to check if they are aggressive or not, no one in sight, they are staying where they are but still barking and in the way of where I need to walk, so I went back and walked down the other side of the fence.

I get to the bottom and see the dogs have gone, also notice the gate was open so they could have got to me anyway, never mind I’m there now and go over the stile back onto the public footpath.

Only then I notice the dogs have come back, so again I check to see if I can see the farmer because whilst they weren’t growling they were barking which is intimidating enough.

At this point there is a fence between us so not a problem but I check to see where the public footpath leads and you’re supposed to join the farm track but their gate is open. The dogs are following me and my dog down the fence, still barking, so I decided to walk away from them not wanting to risk what would happen when we reach the open gate. I am at this point on the farmers field.

After a few steps a farmer comes running shouting for my attention, I stop and see what he wants. He said ‘the footpath doesn’t go along there, you’re damaging the crops’. So he was clearly watching me, and would have been able to see that I was uncomfortable with his dogs around.

There is snow on the field so I wasn’t sure what I was walking on but either way I said, sorry I appreciate that but your dogs were being aggressive towards me and my dog so I felt I had no choice.

He kept repeating that if I can’t stick to the path then I shouldn’t go on the walk, which in normal circumstances I totally agree with, but in this case I felt it best, to protect me and my dog.

He insists his dogs are not aggressive, they are with him at this point, still barking but I admit not growling or coming closer, just staying with him, but I said again that I was not to know this and didn’t want to risk anything happening to my dogs.

In the end I walked away because he clearly could not see my point of view.

So was IBU waking on his land or was he. And if he was is there anything I can do to stop if happening to someone else. Sorry for the long post, thanks for reading.

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LakieLady · 03/02/2019 12:50

And yes, dogs do worry livestock. We (not me, I’m not a farmer, but local area) had so many sheep and lamb losses last spring due to dogs it was horrific.

And look how pathetic the penalties are:

www.farminguk.com/News/Police-release-image-of-Sussex-dog-attack-on-sheep_51180.html

Unbearablecollies · 03/02/2019 12:52

Agree i don't encourage my dog to jump over anything for this very reason.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/02/2019 12:52

That link definitely doesn’t speak to a rural crimewave. Huh?

With an increase of 13.4% on the previous year, rural crime is rising at its fastest rate since 2010. Second paragraph. And a lovely infographic too!

www.nfumutual.co.uk/news-and-stories/rural-crime-2018-infographic/

Farmers dogs on public footpath
derxa · 03/02/2019 12:55

We have to keep our quad bike locked up at all times when it's not being used. It's ancient but people will nick anything.

StreetwiseHercules · 03/02/2019 12:55

“Streetwise did you really type that a German Shepherd could wriggle under a 4 inch gap?? This thread is making my day!”

Of course it could. Head under, wriggle wriggle and through.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/02/2019 12:56

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45042294

While rural crime has fallen in Scotland [compared t o the NFU report on 2017] and the north west of England, there have been sharp rises of more than 30% in the Midlands, Wales and the south east of England.

It seems thatfarmers are schewing fences and bulding earthen ramparts! I've certainly seen a lot of those going up an back lane entrances to farms!

Tell us again how, in your experience, all of that is bunkem...

ILoveMaxiBondi · 03/02/2019 12:56

And totally off topic but I've just discovered Bondi

Grin isn’t it gorgeous? I’m currently working out how I can get to live there.

And back on topic, they advise 6ft fencing for your garden if you have a German Shepard. For a reason. I also owner a lurcher cross that scaled a 40ft cliff face on a regular basis. We called him goat. He laughed in the face of a 6ft fence. Usually from the top of the cliff. Hmm

Teateaandmoretea · 03/02/2019 12:56

I could easily sell my fields for building. It wouldn't be as picturesque then.

Only if the buyer was going to be able to get planning permission. In England that would be highly unlikely unless it was already earmarked for development.

StreetwiseHercules · 03/02/2019 12:56

“With an increase of 13.4% on the previous year, rural crime is rising at its fastest rate since 2010.”

That’s not really meaningful.

LakieLady · 03/02/2019 12:57

Hey @jacks11, if farmers don’t like what comes with owning land, they can sell it, or plant trees on it. Public access, exercised responsibly is an important right.

And we'll eat those trees, will we?

Access is an important, and hard-won, right, but those exercising that right need to recognise that agricultural land is, first and foremost, an open-air factory for the production of food. It doesn't matter if the product is cattle or cabbages, it is the property of the of the person (or people) producing it and must be respected, every bit as much as equipment in an office or any other workplace.

Doing anything that could harm it anyway is on a par with going into a factory and trashing the production line, the only difference is that on agriciultural land, you may have the right to pass through.

derxa · 03/02/2019 12:58

Only if the buyer was going to be able to get planning permission I would the one getting planning permission.

StreetwiseHercules · 03/02/2019 12:58

“I've just watched some scramble over a 6" wooden fence. Foxes regularly do this in my garden and they aren't dissimilar to many dogs.

Dogs will sniff out gaps in fences, which are often caused and used by wildlife, something I don't think sheep do.”

Dogs can’t climb wire fences.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/02/2019 12:58

In England that would be highly unlikely unless it was already earmarked for development. Oh do piss off Streetwise, sorry, Teatea!

That has not been true since the planning lawas were relaxed and the government demanded umpty ump thousand mpore houses were built. Many rural authorities do not have a Local Plan and so developments are given permission with no 'bigger picture' being taken.

Again, something that is all over rural media outlets, pretty much all the time!

StreetwiseHercules · 03/02/2019 12:59

“That's not as daft as it sounds. I could easily sell my fields for building. It wouldn't be as picturesque then.”

Why not do it if it’s so easy? You would make a fortune?

Or is it not as simple as that.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 03/02/2019 12:59

I currently have a golden retriever that wouldn’t step over a stick in his way though Grin they’re all different. I know which is easier to keep contained!

Teateaandmoretea · 03/02/2019 13:00

Sorry Curious the idea that you can just get planning permission wherever you feel like is total and utter bollocks.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/02/2019 13:00

Dogs can’t climb wire fences. OMG! Sorry, but that is ridiculous! Of course they can!

Youtube can be your friend

Teateaandmoretea · 03/02/2019 13:01

It's the reason why farmland is worth £ and anywhere with a chance of building fetches ££££

StreetwiseHercules · 03/02/2019 13:01

“I was recently looking into refencing the perimeter of our horse paddocks. I'd be looking at atleast £20,000 for 8 acres. Now imagine refencing the rest of our 500 acres...“

So your alternative to that spend is to accept the small risk of dog attacks. There you go, you can’t have everything.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/02/2019 13:01

Don't be sorry Teatea. You know you're not really!

And I didn't say anything about "whenever you feel like" Stop changing the goal posts to make a point!

SoupDragon · 03/02/2019 13:01

But that is clearly a highly trained wire climbing circus dog and thus doesn't count.

ILoveMaxiBondi · 03/02/2019 13:01

Dogs can’t climb wire fences.

😂😂😂

Stop! Please!

StreetwiseHercules · 03/02/2019 13:02

“It's the reason why farmland is worth £ and anywhere with a chance of building fetches ££££”

Indeed. Planning permission.

StreetwiseHercules · 03/02/2019 13:03

The whole point of that video is how unusual it is.

Normally show a dog a wire fence and it won’t even try to climb it.

britnay · 03/02/2019 13:04

You've just said above that we should all be animal proofing our fields?!